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Post by T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens on Mar 19, 2007 15:37:50 GMT -5
Those replys are not sarcasm. They're just matter of fact. Sorry you don't like it. Good luck in you Eye-For-An-Eye Future endeavors. I'm sure you'll get really far. Try to stay out a jail.
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Mar 19, 2007 15:37:53 GMT -5
Wow, you got that real sharp wit, the kind only found on message boards.
Saturn acted like a professional. He was trained by Kowalski, a very old school wrestler. Back in Kowolski's day if you didn't do your job right you got stiffed by the older, more experienced professional wrestler.
How about we just agree to disagree, since we're never going to have the same views, I think that's a lot better than bickering on a professional wrestling message board.
Oh, and I'd agree with you if this was an office or retail or everyday line of work. It's professional wrestling, a physical, demanding athletic line of work. Saturn's not the first wrestler to work stiff, and he's not the last.
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Post by brutuscheesecake on Mar 19, 2007 15:43:00 GMT -5
I know we don't have a clear view of the botch, but it didn't look like Saturn landed on his head. More like his upper back, right around the neck...but not his head.
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Mar 19, 2007 15:47:01 GMT -5
I fail to see how Saturn assulting a man in a wrestling ring could benefit his career, the career of Mike Bell, or the career of Vince McMahon. It would seem he made the wrong decision considering he eventually lost his job over it. Wrestling doesn't need to go back to the days when to get into a school you got your leg broken first.
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Mar 19, 2007 15:49:36 GMT -5
I fail to see how Saturn assulting a man in a wrestling ring could benefit his career, the career of Mike Bell, or the career of Vince McMahon. It would seem he made the wrong decision considering he eventually lost his job over it. Wrestling doesn't need to go back to the days when to get into a school you got your leg broken first. It'll benefit the career of Mike Bell greatly, I bet he never screwed up and armdrag again. |
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Mar 19, 2007 15:53:18 GMT -5
I don't know. Saturn didn't actually teach him how to do a proper armdrag. He just beat the snot out of him. I don't think the reason Bell failed was that he wanted to deliberately hurt a more experienced wrestler, I think the issue was that he wasn't experienced. I don't know, but when I get an answer wrong in class I don't get the snot beat out of me.
Saturn clearly flew off the handle and deserved some form of punishment.
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Mar 19, 2007 15:56:52 GMT -5
I don't know. Saturn didn't actually teach him how to do a proper armdrag. He just beat the snot out of him. I don't think the reason Bell failed was that he wanted to deliberately hurt a more experienced wrestler, I think the issue was that he wasn't experienced. I don't know, but when I get an answer wrong in class I don't get the snot beat out of me. Saturn clearly flew off the handle and deserved some form of punishment. School and wrestling aren't the same thing. Stu Hart trained people by putting them in holds until they cried. That was his way of telling a student they got the answer wrong. Saturn may not have been right, but he was justified in what he did. I've seen many Saturn matches, alot of them had botches (He did work matches with New Jack) and he didn't act like that, so perhaps this guy did more than we see in that video. Also, Saturn saved a woman that was being raped at gunpoint, so it's obvious he's not a bad human being. |
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Post by amsiraK on Mar 19, 2007 16:16:38 GMT -5
Don't make me get out the hose, people.
Disagreeing is fine. Taking shots at each other... not.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Mar 19, 2007 16:25:16 GMT -5
Mike Bell was lead singer for Bell Biv Devoe, so it wasn't that bad for him.
No, wait, that was Ricky Bell.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Mar 19, 2007 16:27:11 GMT -5
If Saturn gets to beat the shit out of Bell for botching an armdrag, then what did that guy who got dropped directly on his head by Trips' pedigree get to do to him?
Or Austin to Owen?
Or Holly to Lesnar?
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Post by Cactus Jack on Mar 19, 2007 16:34:46 GMT -5
"Saturn maintains that he was genuinely groggy as a result of landing on his head and was operating mainly on instinct."
I hope this is true.
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Post by T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens on Mar 19, 2007 16:36:27 GMT -5
If Saturn gets to beat the crap out of Bell for botching an armdrag, then what did that guy who got dropped directly on his head by Trips' pedigree get to do to him? Or Austin to Owen? Or Holly to Lesnar? I think we have a revolutionary concept for a PPV here. WWE Anarchy!!! Revenge is a dish best served cold. But we're going one step further. It's a dish served RAW!!!!! Triple H Vs. That Jobber Guy Holly Vs. Lesnar Trish Vs. Mickie Cactus Jack Vs. Vader Yokozuna Vs. That Other Jobber Guy From The Other Video |
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Mar 19, 2007 16:49:10 GMT -5
If Saturn gets to beat the crap out of Bell for botching an armdrag, then what did that guy who got dropped directly on his head by Trips' pedigree get to do to him? Or Austin to Owen? Or Holly to Lesnar? Well, Austin wasn't in the shape to do anything. Owen should've been fined or released for breaking Austin's neck. Holly has stiffed his fair share of people in his career so that was Karma. |
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Mar 19, 2007 16:49:57 GMT -5
If Saturn gets to beat the crap out of Bell for botching an armdrag, then what did that guy who got dropped directly on his head by Trips' pedigree get to do to him? Or Austin to Owen? Or Holly to Lesnar? I think we have a revolutionary concept for a PPV here. WWE Anarchy!!! Revenge is a dish best served cold. But we're going one step further. It's a dish served RAW!!!!! Triple H Vs. That Jobber Guy Holly Vs. Lesnar Trish Vs. Mickie Cactus Jack Vs. Vader Yokozuna Vs. That Other Jobber Guy From The Other Video It would do a better buy rate than December to Dismember, |
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Post by T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens on Mar 19, 2007 16:52:17 GMT -5
You know I have to admit, That Other Jobber Guy From The Other Video was a little more lifelike than Lashley. I'm parting with my cash right now.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 19, 2007 17:01:55 GMT -5
If Saturn gets to beat the crap out of Bell for botching an armdrag, then what did that guy who got dropped directly on his head by Trips' pedigree get to do to him? Or Austin to Owen? Or Holly to Lesnar? Well, Austin wasn't in the shape to do anything. Owen should've been fined or released for breaking Austin's neck. Holly has stiffed his fair share of people in his career so that was Karma. You do understand that Owen didnt break the Austin's neck on purpose, right? Holly may be a dick, but he certianly didnt deserve a broken neck. |
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Mar 19, 2007 17:06:32 GMT -5
Vince: "Perry, why did you do that? Sure Bell botched the move, but you knew better and acted unprofessionally out there!"
Saturn: "Cats hate dogs because they are jealous of lemons. YOU'RE WELCOME"
Vince: "Hey, this gives me an idea..."
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Post by djcdm on Mar 19, 2007 17:10:08 GMT -5
You know I have to admit, That Other Jobber Guy From The Other Video was a little more lifelike than Lashley. I'm parting with my cash right now. Oh noo a Lashley cheap shot  |
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Post by Bobafett on Mar 19, 2007 17:21:04 GMT -5
Those replys are not sarcasm. They're just matter of fact. Sorry you don't like it. Good luck in you Eye-For-An-Eye Future endeavors. I'm sure you'll get really far. Try to stay out a jail. ok lets put this into perspective.. what Saturn done was a knee jerk reaction, heat of the moment, it was wrong, but we all have had moments of madnessits forgiveable HOWEVER Holly does this crap knowing fine well what hes doing and has a reputation for it thats worse, Saturn done it after seeing some red mist..Holly does it just cause hes Holly hows that for a proper arguement for Saturns case |
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Post by Al Wilson Lives: Thread Killer on Mar 19, 2007 17:23:36 GMT -5
Holly can get away with it because he's a legit super heavyweight.
End of story.
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