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Post by Arturo Classico on Apr 25, 2007 11:56:52 GMT -5
After Monday night I had an awesome idea. John Cena needs to wrestle in more technical matches. He looked amazing and also for the first time since being US Champion he looked like he didn't need to be carried.
He looked great and actually busted out some great wrestling moves and actually chain wrestled! Now compare what he have seen from Cena lately, brawling, getting destroyed and beat down, than coming back, Five moves of doom, tap out. I basically described every John Cena match. Boring and lame. But this match showed he can do stuff and not just do the crappy hero in peril garbage. Sure it could have been shortened a little but still John Cena proved he could go in the ring and do more than he usually does. I mean having Cena actually wrestle instead of brawl will win people over on him.
Sure people loved Austin and Rock with there personas but they flocked to them because they could do stuff in the ring(or Austin actually did more when he didn't have that bad neck). But my general point is that people hate Cen a because he does the same crap every week and bores people to tears so they need to have him do more moves and actually lose every now and again and than people would chant for John Cena.
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Post by Matt Rogers on Apr 25, 2007 11:58:57 GMT -5
I agree. Cena either needs matches like on Raw, or flat out brawls like the I Quit match with JBL. His usual punchy matches do nothing for me, technical Cena is teh shiznit.
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Post by MGH on Apr 25, 2007 12:01:24 GMT -5
It isn't even that he needs to "wrestle" more, he just needs more matches BOOKED like this one was.
He didn't get beat up for 12 minutes then go superman and make his grand comeback. He went 50/50 toe to toe with Shawn Michaels, and as a result the match was really good. I'm so sick of his "OH GOD I'M DYING, I'm DONE ..... wait.....wait....5MOVESOFDOOMONETWOTHREEWIIIIIN!!!!" matches. This was a very fresh change of pace.
I don't care if he's wrestling or brawling at this point, I just want more matches booked like this one.
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Post by Palatial Regalia on Apr 25, 2007 12:02:57 GMT -5
He actually toyed with Michaels for the first 15 minutes of the match. Nice to see some of that inring psychology in action.
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Post by Matt Rogers on Apr 25, 2007 12:05:08 GMT -5
It isn't even that he needs to "wrestle" more, he just needs more matches BOOKED like this one was. He didn't get beat up for 12 minutes then go superman and make his grand comeback. He went 50/50 toe to toe with Shawn Michaels, and as a result the match was really good. I'm so sick of his "OH GOD I'M DYING, I'm DONE ..... wait.....wait....5MOVESOFDOOMONETWOTHREEWIIIIIN!!!!" matches. This was a very fresh change of pace. I don't care if he's wrestling or brawling at this point, I just want more matches booked like this one. Yeah, I'm with you on that. You're a main eventer now, Johnny, you've been champion for two years, wrestle like you're on their level. Which he seems to be doing now, it's good stuff. |
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Post by Arturo Classico on Apr 25, 2007 12:07:25 GMT -5
It isn't even that he needs to "wrestle" more, he just needs more matches BOOKED like this one was. He didn't get beat up for 12 minutes then go superman and make his grand comeback. He went 50/50 toe to toe with Shawn Michaels, and as a result the match was really good. I'm so sick of his "OH GOD I'M DYING, I'm DONE ..... wait.....wait....5MOVESOFDOOMONETWOTHREEWIIIIIN!!!!" matches. This was a very fresh change of pace. I don't care if he's wrestling or brawling at this point, I just want more matches booked like this one. Okay yeah I agree booking needs to be more like this and if he could do it with brawling thats fine because the booking of his matches since first becoming WWE Champion have been terrible. Also using ring psychology was great! See people don't hate Cena because of his gimmick, it's they hate him because he does the same crap in the ring and uses no psychology at all. Benoit does the same moves usually but uses psychollogy. No one wants to see the Hoagn bullshit anymore. |
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Post by erwxcalibur on Apr 25, 2007 12:09:25 GMT -5
if hes changing up his style and trying to get better as the champ thats cool. its easy for the number one guy to get worse, or be repetitive.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Apr 25, 2007 12:13:47 GMT -5
Let's hope they DO start booking him according to his talents, and not the gold thing around his waist.
John Cena is a very talented wrestler. But they don't wanna use him that way.
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Post by RatedRKoffee on Apr 27, 2007 1:42:14 GMT -5
Unfortunatly that is a very old story in the WWF/WWE.
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Post by TripleMerc on Apr 27, 2007 1:50:09 GMT -5
The comeback, while it's a good pop, is totally unbelievable. On a grander stage, Wrestlemania for instance, it's alright, if it's done right. It's NEVER... EVER done right. (The clever reversal into a couple of lariats or a high power move, as opposed to no clever reversal at all.
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Post by noj on Apr 27, 2007 3:07:28 GMT -5
I have a better idea. Cena doesn't wrestle in matches that are more technical garbage and he looked like crap in the match on RAW with Michaels as well. Also he looked like he needed to be carried but I didn't agree that Michaels did the carrying at all. Obviously he didn't and he should have instead of laying there doing nothing at all like a lazy bastard. Cena brawling,getting destroyed and making a comeback is just as lame as watching him do a STFU to end a match. Lameassed, I hate it. The stuff he and Michaels did was worse crap than the stuff most complain about on the boards anyway. The only time he was any good in the ring was back in Feb/March 2001 in his UPW days.
Cena didn't prove he could do anything but annoy people. Cena wrestling sucks and what he needs to do is go in, and brawl then kick their sorry asses and pin the motherf**kers with like a Protoplex or side slam and like how he did matches in UPW,short ,to the damned point and sweet! None of this garbage about doing longer matches which suck anyway and aren't worth watching anyway.
No people hate smarks dissing Cena because they start to hate that Cena is being pressured to be a tweener and that. What bores people to tears about what Cena does in the ring is him doing more moves that suck instead of stuff he did back in 2001 like protobomb,protoslam, stuff that actually was cool looking and had a reason behind it. Another bunch of garbage is having Cena lose matches. He should not lose any matches at all and the idea of him doing more moves bores everyone to tears and actually do something that would make people cheer for him.....have him be a babyface, bring back his look that he had in UPW because that was awesome anyway. Not the stupid things he is having to do now. Focus on his promo skills and have him be more fun and entertainment based not wrestling based because his wrestling isn't entertaining. His promos and comedy-type stuff is. Give him the mic and allow him to connect with people watching. He sucks in the ring and is the worst wrestler in the history of WWE. I hate what he is doing in ring. It sucks and is boring crap.
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Post by noj on Apr 27, 2007 3:23:33 GMT -5
It isn't even that he needs to "wrestle" more, he just needs more matches BOOKED like this one was. He didn't get beat up for 12 minutes then go superman and make his grand comeback. He went 50/50 toe to toe with Shawn Michaels, and as a result the match was really good. I'm so sick of his "OH GOD I'M DYING, I'm DONE ..... wait.....wait....5MOVESOFDOOMONETWOTHREEWIIIIIN!!!!" matches. This was a very fresh change of pace. I don't care if he's wrestling or brawling at this point, I just want more matches booked like this one. Cena's wrestling is suckass that way. The Michaels/Cena match sucked because of being done the way it was, he isn't being booked like he was in UPW where at least they actually know how to put wrestlers over. The stupidity of the Cena/Michaels match was a very dull - same old same old he needs less matches booked the way that was and more mic time. The fact is that Cena is supposed to do matches where he squashes the bastards and comes out on top. Forget the matches that are longer I hate that trash too. Short matches and let him be the one who defeats the bastards instead. Or matches like when he was phenomenal like when he was in UPW as a face back in '01. Not the crap they stick him with now. |
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Post by Stu on Apr 27, 2007 3:24:05 GMT -5
Ouch. Someone hit a sore spot here?
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Post by noj on Apr 27, 2007 3:27:26 GMT -5
He actually toyed with Michaels for the first 15 minutes of the match. Nice to see some of that inring psychology in action. ^^^ I don't get the purpose of it. You need to explain. I don't understand how the hell he is going to be able to do signings and be on more magazine covers like he deserves by doing that when fact is...ANYONE ON THESE F**KIING BOARDS COULD GO IN A PRO WRESTLING RING AND DO EXACTLY WHAT CENA IS AND GET OVER!!!!!! |
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Post by noj on Apr 27, 2007 3:36:18 GMT -5
It isn't even that he needs to "wrestle" more, he just needs more matches BOOKED like this one was. He didn't get beat up for 12 minutes then go superman and make his grand comeback. He went 50/50 toe to toe with Shawn Michaels, and as a result the match was really good. I'm so sick of his "OH GOD I'M DYING, I'm DONE ..... wait.....wait....5MOVESOFDOOMONETWOTHREEWIIIIIN!!!!" matches. This was a very fresh change of pace. I don't care if he's wrestling or brawling at this point, I just want more matches booked like this one. Okay yeah I agree booking needs to be more like this and if he could do it with brawling thats fine because the booking of his matches since first becoming WWE Champion have been terrible. Also using ring psychology was great! See people don't hate Cena because of his gimmick, it's they hate him because he does the same crap in the ring and uses no psychology at all. Benoit does the same moves usually but uses psychollogy. No one wants to see the Hoagn bullcrap anymore. Wrong. I disagree. John's booking sucks as it is now and as it has been. The booking should have been like it was when John was in UPW in 2001 as a face. People hate Cena haters and they love the hell out of him because he has the balls to do the matches without the stupid psychology and crappy garbage like that anyway. Cena does the same moves usually but doesn't need to use psychology. Benoit should be using more psychology in his matches. No one wants to see the psychology bullcrap matches anymore. The stuff John did in UPW wasn't Hogan like it was just him being himself and kicking ass on the chumps in the ring. Like in 2/01- 3/01... as a face!! Better that than the nonsense crap he is forced to do now!!! |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 27, 2007 3:39:27 GMT -5
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Post by noj on Apr 27, 2007 3:40:55 GMT -5
Let's hope they DO start booking him according to his talents, and not the gold thing around his waist. John Cena is a very talented wrestler. But they don't wanna use him that way. No he isn't he sucks ass as a wrestler and is PHENOMENAL on the mic. But they don't want to do that with him...or DO THEY?? JUST let John be the babyface he was in UPW as Prototype with the wrestling style he had then and he would be even more impressive and awesome! |
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Post by Dynamic Dude Johnny on Apr 27, 2007 3:59:44 GMT -5
As an old school Cena hater I must add this.
Cena actuly wrestles, I thought he just made better wrestlers carry him in match after match(like HHH, Sean Michales and Edge not to mention many others).
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Post by noj on Apr 27, 2007 4:20:02 GMT -5
Wrong, Prototype as a face....let me see, he not only cuts , more outstanding promos than those guys do anyway and not only that but he is good enough at wrestling when he has to that he has carried matches with all those guys you mentioned because he is way better/more entertaining on the mic and in ring when he does matcnes than Michaels,HHH,Edge or many others.
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