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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 18:46:44 GMT -5
Wrestling booking isn't that hard. Its really not.
Cena retains, but you know what WWE should have done in booking for the main event back on VENGEANCE?
Book Orton for the title win.
Sure we've read reports for some time of his shenanigans backstage, and some reports claim that he's behaved recently. Whatever.
But Orton winning the belt makes sense. He took out Shawn Michaels. who had wrestled for the belt at Wrestlemania. Orton "retired" RVD (former champ) and beaten up poor Foley more than once.
But why Orton getting the win? Because with Orton as champion, RAW would pump up an important question: Who is the #1 contender? Cena, Lashley, or King Booker?
Orton would do his best to make Cena and Lashley bash each other's brains out before fighting Orton, which he will take advantage of in retaining the belt. Who knows, maybe when Lashley and Cena blow their tempers, Orton makes a save for Cena, and other actions to pollute the waters.
Then a Triple-Threat title match set up for SUMMERSLAM with Orton/Cena/Lashley....or a Four-Way Fight between Orton/Cena/Lashley/King Booker......
Its not that hard folks. Besides, make thing interesting. Make a Cena win worth it again, at SUMMERSLAM.
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Post by Jay Broni on Jun 26, 2007 18:47:45 GMT -5
Pfft, he'd just mess it up again.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 26, 2007 18:48:11 GMT -5
I'd like to have seen it as well.
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Post by Corporate H on Jun 26, 2007 18:48:40 GMT -5
I wish he did. Now Cena has no convincing fueds.
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Post by MGH on Jun 26, 2007 18:49:14 GMT -5
I'm not an Orton fan so much anymore, but it would have made all the sense in the world. Cena wouldn't even have had to be pinned.
Oh well.
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Post by Loki on Jun 26, 2007 18:52:26 GMT -5
Orton seems to be quite over lately, so considering the main event scene needs a revamp, it'd be a good idea.
Only problem is: Edge has the belt on SD, Nitro on ECW, I don't see WWE wanting 3 heel champions.
Granted, Cena would STILL be the main focus of RAW (plus Lashley), but booking two "undeserving" heel champions (because we know a heel can be worth of a belt) at the same time.
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Post by glassplate on Jun 26, 2007 18:52:48 GMT -5
If Orton would have won I would have marked out like a 4 year old
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Post by robferatu on Jun 26, 2007 18:52:55 GMT -5
But isn't it already planned for Triple H to squash Orton at Summerslam?
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Post by Jiren on Jun 26, 2007 18:56:05 GMT -5
I think now is a good time for Orton because he has established himself alot more and could pull off a Heel title run
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 18:56:14 GMT -5
I'm not an Orton fan so much anymore, but it would have made all the sense in the world. Cena wouldn't even have had to be pinned. Oh well. EXACTLY. Orton pins the bloody corpse of Foley, and at the next RAW whenever WWE gets out of the Benoit Mess, Cena claims he is the #1 contender because: (1) He gets a contractual guaranteed rematch as former champ (2) He was NEVER pinned for the loss by Orton (3) Lashley hasn't cut his teeth enough as a "serious" competitor. Theme music cued, and Lashley says horses***. He was ECW champ, he won at Wrestlemania, and demands a shot of his own. "Cena, you don't have to be in EVERY WWE title match!" Then King Booker comes out and complains. "I was da 6-time, 6-time champ of the world. What you suckahs done?!?" GREAT AMERICAN BASH would possibly be a giant brawl for whoever wins gets the title shot at SUMMERSLAM...with Orton as Special Guest Referee. Its not that hard. Make it interesting, make Cena without the belt for 2 months seem........surreal.
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 18:57:48 GMT -5
But isn't it already planned for Triple H to squash Orton at Summerslam? Maybe Triple H comes into the picture and demands his former EVOLUTION teammate to give him a title belt. Which then Orton RKOs him..... I mean, you can make this work. Hell, Triple H/Orton/Cena for the belt at SummerSlam....with Lashley fighting King Booker for the #1 contendership. ITS NOT THAT HARD.
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Post by Jiren on Jun 26, 2007 19:00:09 GMT -5
I don't see how Cena not having a title would hurt him
- When Warrior was Champ, It didn't hurt Hogan - When Hogan/Yoko were Champs, It didn't hurt Bret - When Rock/Foley were champs, it didn't hurt Austin
Having Cena in a NON title run for a few months will actually help him
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 19:00:28 GMT -5
Orton seems to be quite over lately, so considering the main event scene needs a revamp, it'd be a good idea. Only problem is: Edge has the belt on SD, Nitro on ECW, I don't see WWE wanting 3 heel champions. Granted, Cena would STILL be the main focus of RAW (plus Lashley), but booking two "undeserving" heel champions (because we know a heel can be worth of a belt) at the same time. WWE cares about what seriously happens at ECW? Why I never... Orton winning the belt makes sense. He would be the first Cena-beater in a long time who's not a DUMB MONSTER heel, he would have the smarts and ruthlessness to take the crown. ITS NOT THAT HARD FOLKS.
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 19:01:22 GMT -5
I don't see how Cena not having a title would hurt him - When Warrior was Champ, It didn't hurt Hogan - When Hogan/Yoko were Champs, It didn't hurt Bret - When Rock/Foley were champs, it didn't hurt Austin Having Cena in a NON title run for a few months will actually help him Hell, let Lashley have a run of his own...or King Booker reign over RAW as champion.... Or Jeff Hardy. Ok I'm joking there.
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Jun 26, 2007 19:01:44 GMT -5
But isn't it already planned for Triple H to squash Orton at Summerslam? Yeah...and transitioning from Cena to Orton to Triple H isn't that bad of an idea, if you ask me.
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Post by Jiren on Jun 26, 2007 19:01:48 GMT -5
Orton seems to be quite over lately, so considering the main event scene needs a revamp, it'd be a good idea. Only problem is: Edge has the belt on SD, Nitro on ECW, I don't see WWE wanting 3 heel champions. Granted, Cena would STILL be the main focus of RAW (plus Lashley), but booking two "undeserving" heel champions (because we know a heel can be worth of a belt) at the same time. WWE cares about what seriously happens at ECW? Why I never... Orton winning the belt makes sense. He would be the first Cena-beater in a long time who's not a DUMB MONSTER heel, he would have the smarts and ruthlessness to take the crown. ITS NOT THAT HARD FOLKS. The good thing about Orton is his RKO can be hit from nowhere It worked on Benoit, Lashley and Many others Imagine Cena setting Orton for the F-U he flipps him but Orton lands on his feet and *BANG* RKO from nowhere That would be a shocker
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jun 26, 2007 19:03:31 GMT -5
I don't see how Cena not having a title would hurt him - When Warrior was Champ, It didn't hurt Hogan - When Hogan/Yoko were Champs, It didn't hurt Bret - When Rock/Foley were champs, it didn't hurt Austin Having Cena in a NON title run for a few months will actually help him In fact, it was when he was chasing Edge for the title in 2006 that much of the hate from the live crowds disappated for a time.
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Post by Jiren on Jun 26, 2007 19:03:53 GMT -5
I don't see how Cena not having a title would hurt him - When Warrior was Champ, It didn't hurt Hogan - When Hogan/Yoko were Champs, It didn't hurt Bret - When Rock/Foley were champs, it didn't hurt Austin Having Cena in a NON title run for a few months will actually help him In fact, it was when he was chasing Edge for the title in 2006 that much of the hate from the live crowds disappated for a time. Exactly
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 19:05:18 GMT -5
WWE cares about what seriously happens at ECW? Why I never... Orton winning the belt makes sense. He would be the first Cena-beater in a long time who's not a DUMB MONSTER heel, he would have the smarts and ruthlessness to take the crown. ITS NOT THAT HARD FOLKS. The good thing about Orton is his RKO can be hit from nowhere It worked on Benoit, Lashley and Many others Its the new Sweet Chin Music. Then again, I argue that Michaels should have won the belt at WrestleMania, which then for the next few months Cena would have to fight his way through jobbers, everyone and eventually have a rematch with HBK, the man who outsmarted him back at Wrestlemania, but now Cena has learned and trained harder since then... ...and BEATS Michaels at his own game of wits. ITS NOT THAT HARD FOLKS!
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Post by MGH on Jun 26, 2007 19:05:28 GMT -5
I don't see how Cena not having a title would hurt him - When Warrior was Champ, It didn't hurt Hogan - When Hogan/Yoko were Champs, It didn't hurt Bret - When Rock/Foley were champs, it didn't hurt Austin Having Cena in a NON title run for a few months will actually help him In fact, it was when he was chasing Edge for the title in 2006 that much of the hate from the live crowds disappated for a time. I've made that point a hundred times as well. It's inarguable that when he hasn't been champion, the crowds begin to slowly come around to him. Obviously not every person and every crowd, but a ton more support was coming his way than he gets now. And I'll stress again, during Austin's big run he was chasing the title more than he actually held it, and last I checked that was on incredibly successful period in WWE. Cena doesn't need that belt to be over and sell tickets. People will pay to see John Cena regardless.
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