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Post by Mr Ismaeal Naji on Jul 31, 2007 9:01:07 GMT -5
was I the only one pissed off last night that the "E" wouldn’t even acknowledge the passing of the late Karl Gotch?
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Jul 31, 2007 9:25:52 GMT -5
The general wrestling fans (i.e., the casual fans) are like, "Karl who?"
However, Gotch is referenced occassionally, e.g., in one of the Rock's promos in 2001, putting over the history of the WCW title that he won, from (and I quote) "Gotch to Thesz to Steamboat to Flair", and them mocking "Booker T and that guy from Scream 2".
Essentially, WWE has adopted WCW's canon of the WCW World title, at least until 2002.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Jul 31, 2007 9:32:35 GMT -5
The general wrestling fans (i.e., the casual fans) are like, "Karl who?" However, Gotch is referenced occassionally, e.g., in one of the Rock's promos in 2001, putting over the history of the WCW title that he won, from (and I quote) "Gotch to Thesz to Steamboat to Flair", and them mocking "Booker T and that guy from Scream 2". Essentially, WWE has adopted WCW's canon of the WCW World title, at least until 2002. You sure that's Karl and not Frank Gotch? |
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Post by Vanilla Gorilla on Jul 31, 2007 9:35:20 GMT -5
The general wrestling fans (i.e., the casual fans) are like, "Karl who?" However, Gotch is referenced occassionally, e.g., in one of the Rock's promos in 2001, putting over the history of the WCW title that he won, from (and I quote) "Gotch to Thesz to Steamboat to Flair", and them mocking "Booker T and that guy from Scream 2". Essentially, WWE has adopted WCW's canon of the WCW World title, at least until 2002. Was that Gotch Karl or Frank? I always assumed it was Frank due to the Frank Gotch vs George Hackenschmidt matches over the World Championship and that Frank was recognized as having the longest NWA title reign ever. |
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Post by seano on Jul 31, 2007 9:37:06 GMT -5
Karl Gotch is the one who died.
And he was a WWWF tag team champ, too (with Rene Goulet in 1971 or so) so there is a direct company connection to him.....
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Post by Harmonica on Jul 31, 2007 9:39:05 GMT -5
The general wrestling fans (i.e., the casual fans) are like, "Karl who?" However, Gotch is referenced occassionally, e.g., in one of the Rock's promos in 2001, putting over the history of the WCW title that he won, from (and I quote) "Gotch to Thesz to Steamboat to Flair", and them mocking "Booker T and that guy from Scream 2". Essentially, WWE has adopted WCW's canon of the WCW World title, at least until 2002. He was talking about Frank because Karl never won the NWA title. Karl Gotch did work for the WWWF and won the tag titles. It is understandable if they didn't mention him, But I thought they should have he contributed a lot to Pro-Wrestling. |
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Post by Vanilla Gorilla on Jul 31, 2007 9:40:33 GMT -5
I know that Karl died, but my question was more about The Rock's quote that duomaxwell022112 posted. He said that Karl Gotch was references occasionally, but I think that quote refered to Frank Gotch.
Yes, they should have acknowledged Karl's death since he was a former tag champ.
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Post by leemir on Jul 31, 2007 9:44:37 GMT -5
I wonder if New Japan did or will do anything.
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Post by Harmonica on Jul 31, 2007 9:49:29 GMT -5
I wonder if New Japan did or will do anything. They should, without him and Lou Thesz, wrestling over there probably would not have failed after Rikidozan died. |
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Jul 31, 2007 9:50:23 GMT -5
yeah, that was a bit annoying.
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Post by Mr Ismaeal Naji on Jul 31, 2007 9:58:57 GMT -5
he was a great catch wrestler, and in some ways he also help kick start MMA the man deserved credit
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jul 31, 2007 10:01:54 GMT -5
The man gets plenty of credit, and it's not like it was the tragic early death of someone that had worked for WWE in recent memory... he was 82, and was far more famous in Japan.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 31, 2007 13:50:06 GMT -5
Honestly? I don't blame them. They might not of even been aware of it.
It's not disrespectful, though. Disrespectful would of been mocking the death.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 31, 2007 14:00:07 GMT -5
They just didn't honor him on TV. That's not disrespect.
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Post by Chucklehead,baby!!! on Jul 31, 2007 14:06:12 GMT -5
frank gotch died years ago from uremic poisoning
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Post by bubbles on Jul 31, 2007 14:29:28 GMT -5
I haven't heard of him but if he's a former tag champ it shouldn't have been too hard to just show a picture of him and d.o.b - 2007 at the start of the show.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jul 31, 2007 14:48:15 GMT -5
I don't see it as a big deal, really... it's nice when they do it, but they're not obligated.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Jul 31, 2007 19:01:03 GMT -5
The general wrestling fans (i.e., the casual fans) are like, "Karl who?" However, Gotch is referenced occassionally, e.g., in one of the Rock's promos in 2001, putting over the history of the WCW title that he won, from (and I quote) "Gotch to Thesz to Steamboat to Flair", and them mocking "Booker T and that guy from Scream 2". Essentially, WWE has adopted WCW's canon of the WCW World title, at least until 2002. You sure that's Karl and not Frank Gotch? Sorry for the brainfart. I'm familiar with Frank Gotch, but not Karl. |
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Jul 31, 2007 19:04:47 GMT -5
Didn't Karl Gotch invent the German Suplex?
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Post by rzombie1988 on Jul 31, 2007 19:13:52 GMT -5
Didn't Karl Gotch invent the German Suplex? Supposedly |
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