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Post by kawalimus on Aug 5, 2007 0:26:48 GMT -5
I am sick hearing this term "no compete" clause in relation to contracts. It is a direct attempt sabotage the wrestler who leaves promotion in this case WWE. And also the promotion. This stuff should be ILLEGAL put in wrestler contracts cause #1 they are not competing. And #2 they are independent contractors so if they released should able to go wherever they want whenever.
If congress investigates Vince I want wrestlers complaining about the no compete as it is nothing but crap from Vince try to sabotage wrestlers so they got less impact when they leave his promotion.
I can't believe nobody else tried end this stuff yet.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 5, 2007 0:27:37 GMT -5
It makes sense to put the clause in there. Talent doesn't have to sign.
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Post by HRH The KING on Aug 5, 2007 0:28:55 GMT -5
I doubt Congress will touch upon anything except steroid use.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 5, 2007 0:30:41 GMT -5
Well, the clause only affect talent if they want to go to TNA,really. It doesn't affect them if they go to ROH or any indy show. Hell, Sabu had a few shows in the indy circut, and his clause is until August 13 or so. Rene has one, but he's doing HUSTLE.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 5, 2007 0:30:49 GMT -5
Nor should they.
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Post by Beebs is the Final Girl on Aug 5, 2007 0:31:14 GMT -5
no compete clauses are part of businesses in general. i had to sign one when i worked for a PI office a few years ago. said i couldnt work for a company that did similar business or start my own doing what they do.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 5, 2007 0:34:03 GMT -5
no compete clauses are part of businesses in general. i had to sign one when i worked for a PI office a few years ago. said i couldnt work for a company that did similar business or start my own doing what they do. Indeed. It's not unique to the wrestling business. Happens all the time, and it's not a horrible thing. Certainly nothing that could put VINCE MCMAHON IN JAIL!!!!!! |
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Post by The F'N Captain on Aug 5, 2007 0:52:43 GMT -5
When you don't have a No-Compete Clause you have Medusa throwing your women's title in a trash can, or Rick Rude appearing on two shows simultaneously that are supposed to both be "live".
No compete clauses are not really unfair. Especially since if you look at it another way in that the wrestler can look "fresh" after being off television for a month or three.
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Post by HRH The KING on Aug 5, 2007 0:54:55 GMT -5
Madusa showed a lack of class IMO when she did that.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Aug 5, 2007 0:56:56 GMT -5
When you don't have a No-Compete Clause you have Medusa throwing your women's title in a trash can, or Rick Rude appearing on two shows simultaneously that are supposed to both be "live". Those were do to a contract expiring, something a no-compete can't stop. |
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Post by The F'N Captain on Aug 5, 2007 0:59:14 GMT -5
When you don't have a No-Compete Clause you have Medusa throwing your women's title in a trash can, or Rick Rude appearing on two shows simultaneously that are supposed to both be "live". Those were do to a contract expiring, something a no-compete can't stop. I thought some contracts still had 30 day no compete clauses on them even as part of the contract ending. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 5, 2007 0:59:29 GMT -5
When you don't have a No-Compete Clause you have Medusa throwing your women's title in a trash can, or Rick Rude appearing on two shows simultaneously that are supposed to both be "live". Those were do to a contract expiring, something a no-compete can't stop. No, she was canned. Fired without ever being asked to lose her title. Technically, it was McMahon's fault for ignoring the title, but a no compete clause would have saved him the hassle. |
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Post by The Line on Aug 5, 2007 1:00:19 GMT -5
Also, if a wrestler gets released, they are still getting paid over that 90 day period. Its not like their eating tuna fish for 90 days
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Post by The F'N Captain on Aug 5, 2007 1:00:55 GMT -5
Those were do to a contract expiring, something a no-compete can't stop. No, she was canned. Fired without ever being asked to lose her title. Technically, it was McMahon's fault for ignoring the title, but a no compete clause would have saved him the hassle. I thought that as well, hence her being so willing to toss the title. However I wasn't sure if Rude worked his contract or got released. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 5, 2007 1:01:56 GMT -5
No, she was canned. Fired without ever being asked to lose her title. Technically, it was McMahon's fault for ignoring the title, but a no compete clause would have saved him the hassle. I thought that as well, hence her being so willing to toss the title. However I wasn't sure if Rude worked his contract or got released. I'm not terribly sure about that one, myself. I want to say he asked for his release, which means he still would have been bound by a no compete clause, but I could be 100% wrong there. |
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Aug 5, 2007 1:02:14 GMT -5
yeah the no-compete is pretty common in business. plus the vast majority aren't like Brock Lesnar's, which he was a total moron for signing a contract with that in it. they're usually just a couple months at most. that's not enough, or rather shouldn't be enough, to financially cripple someone who was making a 6 figure salary.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 1:02:35 GMT -5
No-compete clauses are nothing more than an insurance policy, of sorts. Would YOU want people disappearing from your promotion to appear on a rival one? That's bad for business, bud. That helps nobody, except for rival talents. Would you like a disgruntled talent leaving out of the blue to work a rival company? I sure wouldn't.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Aug 5, 2007 1:06:19 GMT -5
I thought that as well, hence her being so willing to toss the title. However I wasn't sure if Rude worked his contract or got released. I'm not terribly sure about that one, myself. I want to say he asked for his release, which means he still would have been bound by a no compete clause, but I could be 100% wrong there. Rick Rude was under a pay per appearance deal so he had no contract. I alway though Medusa contact lapsed since she wasn't on TV that I remember. Either way she was an idiot. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 5, 2007 1:08:35 GMT -5
I'm not terribly sure about that one, myself. I want to say he asked for his release, which means he still would have been bound by a no compete clause, but I could be 100% wrong there. Rick Rude was under a pay per appearance deal so he had no contract. I alway though Medusa contact lapsed since she wasn't on TV that I remember. Either way she was an idiot. Heh, like I said, I was 100% wrong on the Rude one. Medusa, however, was fired for, I believe, complaining about the quality of her competition and wanting to bring in more legit women's talent. |
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Post by EJS on Aug 5, 2007 1:54:44 GMT -5
Yeah. It is 100% legal.
They are still paid during those 90 days as they would be normally (the downside, since they obviously aren't appearing on any cards). So they are still employed.
Basically it means "we are ending our contract with you early, 90 days from now". If this is a problem, it can be worked out Haas, Tomko (I think), and Angle all had basically unconditional releases and were free to do as they choose right away. I think Haas may have had a condition that he wouldn't go to TNA, probably just a verbal agreement of some sort.
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