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Post by Arturo Classico on Aug 31, 2007 8:24:50 GMT -5
I think the question has to be asked in the wake of 10 wrestlers being suspended this week which might include huge stars like Booker T, John Morrison, Randy Orton, Batista, and William Regal. So this got me to think do you think Cena and HHH are on steriods?
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 31, 2007 8:25:48 GMT -5
John Cena's been that size any time I've seen him. I'm not sure.
Triple H? Might've been before, but I'm inclined to believe he's stopped. He's as slim as he's ever been since 2000.
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Post by MCMGM on Aug 31, 2007 8:27:03 GMT -5
Eh. Gonna say no on Cena, since I have never seen him smaller than that. And I'm sure Trips did them at some point, but he might be off the stuff now.
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Post by Mac on Aug 31, 2007 8:28:30 GMT -5
They could be, I wouldnt be shocked, but I WILL be shocked if the WWE fingers these guys as 2 of the 10 busted for roids. If they announce the names I'm expecting to see a bunch of developmental talent and a few semi-stars on the roster just to make an impression. Same thing MLB did, lots of minor leaguers a few backups and the retiring Raphael Palmero.
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Post by AriadosMan on Aug 31, 2007 8:30:52 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Cena isn't NOW, although the photos of him as the Prototype in OVW have much more oversized muscle growth than they do now (indicating he likely used them at an earlier point in his career).
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 31, 2007 8:37:37 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Cena isn't NOW, although the photos of him as the Prototype in OVW have much more oversized muscle growth than they do now (indicating he likely used them at an earlier point in his career). It's possible. He did used to be slimmer. If he put on weight, it might've been what killed his definition.
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Post by j-man on Aug 31, 2007 8:38:47 GMT -5
Cena - don't know. His name has never come up in any list so far and he was a bodybuilder in college so he's been big for a while.
HHH - absolutely yes just based on his two quad injuries alone. Those are typical steroid related injuries. Hunter was ripped a few years back. He's not as cut anymore but he still has a lot more mass then his natural weight. Just look at HHH circa 1999 vs. now.
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Post by Legion on Aug 31, 2007 8:40:28 GMT -5
Your thread title should be 'Are John Cena and HHH on steroids' not 'Is.'
Above the poll it should also be 'Are they?' not 'Is he?'
If english isn't your first language, hope this can help, if it is, oh dear.......
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Post by Mac on Aug 31, 2007 8:41:51 GMT -5
Cena - don't know. His name has never come up in any list so far and he was a bodybuilder in college so he's been big for a while. HHH - absolutely yes just based on his two quad injuries alone. Those are typical steroid related injuries. Hunter was ripped a few years back. He's not as cut anymore but he still has a lot more mass then his natural weight. Just look at HHH circa 1999 vs. now. Well a lot of bodybuilders use Roids, I know Cena has denied it and just by using the eyeball test he seems less ripped and has more of a gymnaist build now. I think when you use the same eyeball test of Trips he absolutly exploded over a couple years into a jacked monster then he turned orange, his hair started falling out and he kept tearing large muscles.
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Post by ACG2x on Aug 31, 2007 8:42:33 GMT -5
Um, I'm somewhat confused as to this poll. The poll says "Is Cena and HHH on steroids?" To nitpick, that'd actually be "ARE they?". Also, the poll itself says "Is he?" and the options are "Yes", "No" and "Maybe".
I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to vote. What if I think Cena doesn't but HHH does. What if I think HHH DID, but Cena currently does?
Interesting thread to talk about, but confusing as hell poll.
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Post by smartcenadude on Aug 31, 2007 8:48:31 GMT -5
I didn't see anything.
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Aug 31, 2007 8:56:29 GMT -5
No, and no. I give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove they don't deserve it. And they've done nothing as such.
And may I point out the total logical disconnection of accusing a bodybuilder of using steroids on the sole basis that he's musclar? It's like accusing a thin person of using diet pills because they're not fat. Just... what?
As for Trips' quads, there could be a lot of reasons. Off the top of my head, many of his signature moves are leg based. The knee drop, knee facebuster, and high knee.. and more importantly the spinebuster and pedigree both hit the knees pretty hard. I wonder drugs RVD and Mick Foley are on that are causing their knee problems. .... Okay, maybe RVD is a bad example for a discussion about drugs. Still, accusing someone of steroid use based on his injuries is like saying every kid who's fallen down the stairs was really beaten up by their abusive parents.
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Post by Mac on Aug 31, 2007 9:06:21 GMT -5
Accusing a bodybuilder of using steroids is nowhere near accusing someone skinny of using diet pills. For starters bodybuilders are working to win competitions and get paid based on their muscularity, lack of body fat and appearance. I think steroids would play a major role in helping them acheive those goals. If you're a bodybuilder you'd be stupid not to use steroids. If you check a number of bodybuilding sites they'll encourage steroid use. I just checked myself. If you think its illogal to point out steroid use among bodybuilders than you must also think it's illogical to point out that its hot outside because its summer.
Thats beside the point anway, what I said was just because Cena was a bodybuilder isnt an excuse why he was so big. The point was brought up that Cena was a bodybuilder so hes "been that big for awhile" I don't see how that in anyway removes Cena from being accused of using steroids. I'm just saying I wouldnt be shocked.
As for there being many reasons Triple H ripping his quad I'll agree, but are there many reasons for him exploding into five times his "Hunter Hearst Helmsley" size in such a quick amount of time without a little help?
What you're doing is taking one factor that could be steroid related and disputing it. I'm taking all the factors, putting them together and using THAT for a reason why I beleive Triple H took steroids. And I know I'm not in the minority on that one.
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Post by Grotto on Aug 31, 2007 9:06:31 GMT -5
As for Trips' quads, there could be a lot of reasons. Off the top of my head, many of his signature moves are leg based. The knee drop, knee facebuster, and high knee.. and more importantly the spinebuster and pedigree both hit the knees pretty hard. I wonder drugs RVD and Mick Foley are on that are causing their knee problems. .... Okay, maybe RVD is a bad example for a discussion about drugs. Still, accusing someone of steroid use based on his injuries is like saying every kid who's fallen down the stairs was really beaten up by their abusive parents. That is a good point. Although...there are injuries that are more likely for steroid users than non-steroid users. Joint disease/injury...muscle tears...and anything that deals with a person having too much weight/mass on their physical structure can POINT to possible use of enhancers. But...as you stated...it can't be the only factor in accusing someone.
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Post by chickenwhopper on Aug 31, 2007 9:22:30 GMT -5
Jesus
What a stupid question
Obviously no one here f***ing knows unless they're supplying them
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