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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 31, 2007 11:22:32 GMT -5
If they are using Growth Hormones, they won't be detected on any drug test. It's not scientifically possible. So, they could've been using them for years without anyone knowing. This is correct to a point. HGH can be detected using blood tests. I am not very familar with WWE's testing, so I do not know if they stick with urine or get the needle out as well. I don't know either, but I'd assume it's just urine tests, honestly. Blood tests would be a huge hassle, wouldn't they?
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Aug 31, 2007 11:22:44 GMT -5
Not for nothing guys, but Congress has been investigating illegal performance enhancers for awhile now. Just so happened that wrestling got thrust into the spotlight, so they're going to get the MLB treatment. I see no problems with that. With the difference being that MLB could've gotten in trouble. WWE is in no legal trouble. There's no law saying you have o do drug tests or keep your employees off of steroids. Whataburger sure as hell never tested me. I have written this post many times and I will write it once more: Congress has ABSOLUTELY NO power on WWE. It has power on NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL only becuase they are tax-exempt entities wich Congress has oversight through anti-trust laws. Congress may shake their fist at Vince and say "shame on you", but NOTHING will be done to WWE, TNA or any of the others called to testlfy before Congress. As for the federal investigation, others have correctly pointed out that the feds are after the dealers, not the users. While they will have issues with booking because of the suspensions, WWE is not now nor will they be in any legal hot water for any of this. WWE will continue with business as usual and hopefully strengthen the wellness policy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2007 11:25:05 GMT -5
With the difference being that MLB could've gotten in trouble. WWE is in no legal trouble. There's no law saying you have o do drug tests or keep your employees off of steroids. Whataburger sure as hell never tested me. I have written this post many times and I will write it once more: Congress has ABSOLUTELY NO power on WWE. It has power on NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL only becuase they are tax-exempt entities wich Congress has oversight through anti-trust laws. Congress may shake their fist at Vince and say "shame on you", but NOTHING will be done to WWE, TNA or any of the others called to testlfy before Congress. As for the federal investigation, others have correctly pointed out that the feds are after the dealers, not the users. While they will have issues with booking because of the suspensions, WWE is not now nor will they be in any legal hot water for any of this. WWE will continue with business as usual and hopefully strengthen the wellness policy. The thing I see effecting WWE and TNA is media backlash, specifically by advertisers, sponsors and concerned parents.
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Post by amsiraK on Aug 31, 2007 11:31:37 GMT -5
With the difference being that MLB could've gotten in trouble. WWE is in no legal trouble. There's no law saying you have o do drug tests or keep your employees off of steroids. Whataburger sure as hell never tested me. I have written this post many times and I will write it once more: Congress has ABSOLUTELY NO power on WWE. It has power on NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL only becuase they are tax-exempt entities wich Congress has oversight through anti-trust laws. Congress may shake their fist at Vince and say "shame on you", but NOTHING will be done to WWE, TNA or any of the others called to testlfy before Congress. As for the federal investigation, others have correctly pointed out that the feds are after the dealers, not the users. While they will have issues with booking because of the suspensions, WWE is not now nor will they be in any legal hot water for any of this. WWE will continue with business as usual and hopefully strengthen the wellness policy. In as far as competition goes, you're right. The WWE doesn't fall under any regulatory commissions (like state licensure), so they're an entity unto themselves. They're not breaking any athletic rules as, strictly speaking, they're not an athletic company. (So says Vince. We know better.) I don't know how the "controlled substances" issue is going to fly, though. Eventually, that may come around to bite SOMEONE. That said, it'll be a cold day in hell before the WWE is held accountable for anything, as they've done perfunctory booty coverage with the "Wellness Program" and suspensions like this. Makes it look like they're on the ball. And for the second time this week, HIPPA rears its head! Though I'm not sure if a private testing company is bound by the same regulations that a doctor or hospital would be.
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Post by Lancers on Aug 31, 2007 11:33:03 GMT -5
I have written this post many times and I will write it once more: Congress has ABSOLUTELY NO power on WWE. It has power on NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL only becuase they are tax-exempt entities wich Congress has oversight through anti-trust laws. Congress may shake their fist at Vince and say "shame on you", but NOTHING will be done to WWE, TNA or any of the others called to testlfy before Congress. As for the federal investigation, others have correctly pointed out that the feds are after the dealers, not the users. While they will have issues with booking because of the suspensions, WWE is not now nor will they be in any legal hot water for any of this. WWE will continue with business as usual and hopefully strengthen the wellness policy. The thing I see effecting WWE and TNA is media backlash, specifically by advertisers, sponsors and concerned parents. That's correct. Congress may not be able to really stick it to the WWE or TNA. But advertisers and sponsors who begin pulling out will stick it to the WWE or TNA in their pocket books. And if wouldn't matter if these promotions pull off 8.0 ratings every week, if nobody's buying ad time (or only willing to buy ad time at a low cost) during their programming, networks will pull the plug because they're not making money.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Aug 31, 2007 11:35:57 GMT -5
Sponsers and advertisers I understand.
What's funny about the parents being concerned is that "taking drugs" isn't something that we see as storylines on WWE now-a-days because of how too real it is when it comes to the actual wrestlers, so unless their kid is all over the web and post here, they really don't know that much about wrestling backstage happenings. There could be the older kids at school who know, but i'm pretty sure that there are much worse thing things parents should be concerned about. I'm not saying there's no way kids will know but you know what i'm saying.
Like HHH throwing the word "cock" around all willy nilly during a long boring skit should be more of a concern.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2007 11:39:42 GMT -5
I think parents will be concerned because this case is all over the news. Sooner or later, they're bound to hear it. Even though my parents weren't like that, I can imagine a lot of parents stopping their children from watching due to the bad publicity it's getting. If the Benoit Tragedy didn't do it, this will. Whenever people hear the word "Steroids", they automatically think it's bad. Don't get me wrong, it is, but they won't know that WWE is actually doing all the right things in this situation.
But, I think all of this will concern TNA more than WWE. They don't have much now ... what would happen if the sponsors and advertisers pulled out? WWE will most likely be able to survive this because of how big their company is, but TNA is a whole different story. They were close to bankruptcy quite a few times (before Panda Energy helped them out).
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Post by The Portable Stove on Aug 31, 2007 11:43:07 GMT -5
Okay, from the spoilers, I can say this.
...WE CAN HAVE A PUNK/STEVIE FEUD FOR THE TITLE. DO IT, WWE. DO IT.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Aug 31, 2007 11:47:54 GMT -5
I see what you're saying. So what this means is that the Cena Nuffers may become the majority, and the the Word Lifers may become the minorities if the parents stop there precious innocent babies who already know about oral gratification from every other TV station besides Nickelodeon away from th eeeeeevil WWE.
EDIT: forgot [/sarcasm]
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Post by Palatial Regalia on Aug 31, 2007 11:51:10 GMT -5
This thread sucks, if the mods are gonna sticky something at least have the original article for the first post.
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Post by gsguy on Aug 31, 2007 11:52:46 GMT -5
This thread sucks, if the mods are gonna sticky something at least have the original article for the first post. The original thread was 30 pages. Threads get locked after 30 pages in order to prevent board crashes.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Aug 31, 2007 11:57:05 GMT -5
Raw will be alright as long as they have Cena and HHH.
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 31, 2007 11:59:04 GMT -5
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Post by Palatial Regalia on Aug 31, 2007 12:01:22 GMT -5
This thread sucks, if the mods are gonna sticky something at least have the original article for the first post. The original thread was 30 pages. Threads get locked after 30 pages in order to prevent board crashes. Your point? Any sticky thread should contain the original article and a link to the previous thread...
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Post by kswolf on Aug 31, 2007 12:03:36 GMT -5
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Post by AmericanDragon420 on Aug 31, 2007 12:10:14 GMT -5
Wow this is crazy. Raw's roster is seriously reduced to Triple H, Cena, Hardy, and I guess Carlito as the only guys who are over. Even worse, ECW lost one of the few people that are even kind of over on their show and Smackdown is possibly losing one of their top names since Batista has been named. Maybe they should end the brand split, even if it's only for a month.
By the way, if Batista does get suspended, will I be the only one here celebrating?
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 31, 2007 12:26:35 GMT -5
Wow this is crazy. Raw's roster is seriously reduced to Triple H, Cena, Hardy, and I guess Carlito as the only guys who are over. Even worse, ECW lost one of the few people that are even kind of over on their show and Smackdown is possibly losing one of their top names since Batista has been named. Maybe they should end the brand split, even if it's only for a month. By the way, if Batista does get suspended, will I be the only one here celebrating? I don't think any of this is a cause for celebration, honestly.
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Post by GregP19 on Aug 31, 2007 12:27:19 GMT -5
I wasnt gonna read the RAW spoilers because I like to have something to look forward to on Monday, but curiousity may get the best of me
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Post by beautifulscars85 on Aug 31, 2007 12:30:27 GMT -5
Mistahhhhhhhhhhh Suspended!!!! Suspended (cries) damn...mister kennedy is suspended?
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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 31, 2007 12:39:53 GMT -5
Wow this is crazy. Raw's roster is seriously reduced to Triple H, Cena, Hardy, and I guess Carlito as the only guys who are over. Even worse, ECW lost one of the few people that are even kind of over on their show and Smackdown is possibly losing one of their top names since Batista has been named. Maybe they should end the brand split, even if it's only for a month. By the way, if Batista does get suspended, will I be the only one here celebrating? Cryme Tyme are probably about to have more TV time and a consistant feud with Cade & Murdoch. Actually, the silver lining is that WWE could focus on its tag teams more. There are plenty of teams in development, too.
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