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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Aug 28, 2007 16:38:51 GMT -5
I find it funny that people complain & make threads (on this forum especially) about WWE rehashing material. And yet for every thread like that, there's 3 threads consisting of "Wrestler A needs to come back," "Storyline B needs to be redone," "Match Stipulation C needs to return."
WWE & TNA have too many PPV's.
I miss managers, thought out angles & characters with depth.
After The Undertaker retires, I don't know if I'll watch wrestling, let alone WWE, anymore.
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Post by smartcenadude on Aug 28, 2007 16:39:21 GMT -5
- Chris Benoit was boring and never main event material
- Its possible that Chris Benoit and his family were murdered
- John Cena's title run has been very good, and its a shame they haven't been able to build a show around it to draw more viewers.
- If steroids ever really get banned it will change the face of wrestling forever
- Steroids shouldn't get banned within wrestling because it doesn't effect the outcome of the match
- There are many deaths for reasons other than steroids. All other sports have users that take them, and don't have near the amount of deaths.
- Vince McMahon is a legitimate genius, and one of the few men in today's world that I can look up to
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Post by Near Fantastica on Aug 28, 2007 16:40:29 GMT -5
- I hate indy feds. Yes, there it is. I don't care about pasty, bald guys or skinny guys with long hair. I just don't. I don't care about how good they are at promos, I don't care how unpronouncable their name is, I don't care if they wrestle sixty minute bouts, they aren't important. Unless they are called up to the big leagues I won't care. That may seem close-minded but I don't care for the indy feds. I don't care to watch wrestling in dimly light halls.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2007 16:41:12 GMT -5
I find it funny that people complain & make threads (on this forum especially) about WWE rehashing material. And yet for every thread like that, there's 3 threads consisting of "Wrestler A needs to come back," "Storyline B needs to be redone," "Match Stipulation C needs to return." WWE & TNA have too many PPV's. I miss managers, thought out angles & characters with depth. After The Undertaker retires, I don't know if I'll watch wrestling, let alone WWE, anymore. I'll agree with you about rehashing. I love rehashing when it's done right. I'll be the first to say I love stuff like the Freebird Rule.
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Post by Near Fantastica on Aug 28, 2007 16:41:56 GMT -5
- I hate gimmick posters.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Aug 28, 2007 16:45:28 GMT -5
- John Cena, Undertaker, HHH, Shawn Micheals and Bistro can all do without holding a belt for a while.
- I have never been a fan of Kurt Angle or Hulk Hogan, just never found them them interesting in-ring or out of it, although I will admit they were both incredibly talented.
- As long as its booked in the right way, anything can be interesting and/or believable.
- Orton/Cena potentially could be a legendary feud for WWE. It wouldn't even need a title either.
- The "Vinnie's bastard" angle could be giving a rub to so many more people and helping the programme over all its not even funny.
- Everyone should have a "blood feud" at least once that they can fall back on. I mean even Val Venis had Rikishi.
- Marafuji is better than KENTA.
- A wrestler can still get push and be part of a tag team.
- James Storm is one of the few, hell, possibly the only decently booked worker in TNA.
- Jimmy Jacobs will be one of the biggest names in wrestling one day.
- I have yet to see a truly fantastic match that I will remember for ages to come from TNA. Ever. Closest to it was Jarrett/Sting from BFG.
- Too many wrestlers on the indie scene just choose generic crappy rock music when they have so much to choose from. If I ever see another wrestler use a Marilyn Manson song as their theme, I will scream.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2007 16:53:01 GMT -5
- Too many wrestlers on the indie scene just choose generic crappy rock music when they have so much to choose from. If I ever see another wrestler use a Marilyn Manson song as their theme, I will scream. I don't get that, either. Marilyn Manson's music isn't even good for it, being so slow paced.
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Post by Monster Heel #2 on Aug 28, 2007 16:53:19 GMT -5
- As long as its booked in the right way, anything can be interesting and/or believable. So true yet so forgotten by the average smart mark like Dave Scherer. Agreed. This could turn into Rock vs. Austin despite what the naysayers who cling to past mainstream and current indies/puros say. As long as Vince realizes to eventually to put the focus on others besides himself, this will be true. 100% accurate Difficult but not impossible. Probably true, but not enough to get me to watch that garbage. A bit of a stretch in my eyes, but a possibility that I would love to happen. AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe, Turning Point 2005. But to each his own.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2007 16:56:57 GMT -5
I'm vocal about most of my opinions, but one that I haven't mentioned yet:
-I've been simmering for a while on the fact that Paul Heyman's plan to push Joey "Mercury" Matthews as an ECW Main Eventer upon his return was killed off in favor of giving that role to Snitsky, who instead just became a hoss midcarder on RAW. Sure, Mercury's old partner has the spot now, but Joey IS the better of the two, skill-wise. He's not on levels of ability of guys like Danielson, but he's still great by WWE standards, and really, his mic skills were pretty good. Not excellent, but pretty good. Good voice, and back in the days of MNM when Nitro and Melina were still among the WORST in the region of mic skills (both have improved, particularly Melina, who's better than most other divas in that aspect), Mercury would carry the promos. A lot of things he said would roll off the tongue. Nitro had a look that better fits a main event wrestler, but Mercury had the all-around talent to more than make up for that.
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Post by britishbulldog on Aug 28, 2007 16:59:38 GMT -5
I laugh when everyone complains about Cena's title reign. I am not a fan but I like the belt having some meaning. The easiest way to do that is to keep it on one person for a long strech of time, That way when it does change hands its a MAJOR DEAL, not just meh. Just because it's PPV doesn't mean a title has to change hands
Orton sucks, I have never liked his look or his in ring style. I like that Morrison retained. Punk will now look stronger after tonights fatal 4 way and then he will win at Unforginven making both he and Morrison permanent main eventers
I perfer Matt to Jeff I also perfered Marty to Shawn. Bastard story is at least interesting TNA is watched on fast forward and only stopped if Raven is on All wrestling promotions need to learn managers are great as are stables if they are along the lines of the Heenan,Hart,Slick family. Small groups bore me
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Post by Monster Heel #2 on Aug 28, 2007 17:01:36 GMT -5
I laugh when everyone complains about Cena's title reign. I am not a fan but I like the belt having some meaning. The easiest way to do that is to keep it on one person for a long strech of time, That way when it does change hands its a MAJOR DEAL, not just meh. Just because it's PPV doesn't mean a title has to change hands
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Aug 28, 2007 17:02:32 GMT -5
- As long as its booked in the right way, anything can be interesting and/or believable. So true yet so forgotten by the average smart mark like Dave Scherer. Agreed. This could turn into Rock vs. Austin despite what the naysayers who cling to past mainstream and current indies/puros say. As long as Vince realizes to eventually to put the focus on others besides himself, this will be true. 100% accurate Difficult but not impossible. Probably true, but not enough to get me to watch that garbage. A bit of a stretch in my eyes, but a possibility that I would love to happen. AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe, Turning Point 2005. But to each his own. Agreed on almost all of this as well...except I do think KENTA is better than Marifuji (by just a little bit). As for the last one, the three way was a great match. You know the one I'm talking about.
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Post by Trey Thomas on Aug 28, 2007 17:03:24 GMT -5
- I still think Miss Elizabeth is the best looking Diva ever.
- I used to be a big time Cena mark. Now I file that under my "young and stupid" days. I always knew he was bad in the ring, but I loved him as a heel. I might like him again as a heel.
- I love Bobby Lashley, I don't care what anyone says. I will defend him until the cows come home.
- I think if HHH combined the C.A. and DX gimmicks it would be pretty cool. It almost seems he is going that way with his current run.
- I can't watch SD. One reason being for a crappy time slot (Friday night, you seriously think I'm home?). Other reason is cause I'm not going to tune in to a show where I only truthfully care for one guy (MVP). I know, there's DVRs, but my DVR already records Psych on Fridays, and I don't want to spend all of Saturday catching up on Friday night.
- I kind of liked Austin, but not too much. I was a Rocky guy all the way, and to me, liking Austin and The Rock is like liking the Bears and the Packers, you just can't do that.
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Post by Monster Heel #2 on Aug 28, 2007 17:17:31 GMT -5
So true yet so forgotten by the average smart mark like Dave Scherer. Agreed. This could turn into Rock vs. Austin despite what the naysayers who cling to past mainstream and current indies/puros say. As long as Vince realizes to eventually to put the focus on others besides himself, this will be true. 100% accurate Difficult but not impossible. Probably true, but not enough to get me to watch that garbage. A bit of a stretch in my eyes, but a possibility that I would love to happen. AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe, Turning Point 2005. But to each his own. Agreed on almost all of this as well...except I do think KENTA is better than Marifuji (by just a little bit). As for the last one, the three way was a great match. You know the one I'm talking about. I do enjoy KENTA's matches usually more than Marufuji's matches, but I give Marufuji the nod as a worker because of his better ability to adapt to different styles. I can't agree about Daniels vs. AJ vs. Joe from Unbreakable being better than the match I listed. While they did have the crowd in the palms of their hands, it was in reality just a bunch of spots and moves thrown together. Very fun, perhaps great, but nothing that really stands out like AJ vs. Joe. AJ vs. Joe told a wonderful story in that AJ could keep taking a hellacious beating from Joe but keep coming back. This simple story logically make each guy increase the intensity, as AJ NEEDED to hit the much larger Joe with everything he had in order to stay in the match, whereas Joe kept getting more frustrated and pissed off, thus explaining why he kept increasing the brutality. It was beautiful, very reminiscent of many HBK matches. And in the end, the right man, the better man, went over, and both men were elevated in my eyes after that match.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Aug 28, 2007 17:24:55 GMT -5
- John Morrison is my favorite wrestler on ECW, and that's saying something considering they've got Punk, Dreamer, Burke, Big daddy V, Thorne, Richards and others. Hell, he's actually my favorite wrestler going right now. His promos are improving and his ringwork is excellent, and he even has some signature moves that only he uses (corkscrew moonsault, corkscrew neckbreaker, springboard enzugiri, breakdance legdrop, etc.). I love how he oversells in the ways of HBK and Mr.Perfect and I love his new look and gimmick.
- While Morrison is my FAVORITE wrestler right now, I believe John Cena is the BEST overall wrestler on the planet going today.
- I don't mind Vince on my TV or in feuds as long as he's entertaining. He loses every feud he's in anyway, might as well enjoy the novelty of seeing his ass kicked.
- Psycho-heel Randy has my attention a lot more so than any of his previous character incarnations
- I'd love to see Psycho Sid come out and randomly powerbomb somebody to hell, and then just leave. Just for no reason.
- I can't stand Morishima. That does not translate into me thinking he's a bad wrestler, I just plain don't like his character. One of those very rare automatic, unchanging apathies.
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Post by Monster Heel #2 on Aug 28, 2007 17:28:34 GMT -5
Along with handling of the stable wars, I'd say Gabe's biggest booking mistake of 2007 was not letting Morishima use more elements of the "monster heel" (no pun intended) type gimmick. I'm all for trying to have great matches, but someone like BJ Whitmer or Jimmy Rave should never be given any type of credible offense on Takeshi Morishima. Most of all though, Morishima as a character has been booked inconsistently. One minute he attacks without reason. The next, he's treating everyone with respect. I wish he were just booked to be a big hotshot prick.
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Post by GregP19 on Aug 28, 2007 17:37:09 GMT -5
*I like Kurt Angle, but didnt at first for the sole reason that he stole the Patriot's theme music and Ken Shamrock's finisher. It took me, no joke, about 2 years to get past that.
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Post by J is Justice on Aug 28, 2007 17:37:27 GMT -5
people with benoit in their sigs need help This
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Post by The Line on Aug 28, 2007 17:39:35 GMT -5
I'm all for trying to have great matches, but someone like BJ Whitmer or Jimmy Rave should never be given any type of credible offense on Takeshi Morishima. Weren't they beaten within minutes of their matches starting against the champ? Also, here are mine: Despite being a HUGE ROH Fan and it being my favorite company not just currently but of all time, I mark HARD for things such as the current Vince storyline, Boogeyman and other “wrestlecrap” things. Kelly Kelly is my second favorite Diva, behind Mickie James. I was also a huge Terri mark. I really dislike the fact that because I am a teen, I automatically can have no opinion on wrestling from before 1998, despite the fact that I have watched more wrestling from the 80’s/early 90’s than some of the people on this board who are 10 years older than me. Despite me disagreeing with some things with my 2 best friends on these boards (MGH on Kelly and Spanky on Santino), I am able to get along with them greatly, and I really wish that other people here would agree to disagree as well. I don’t mind any of the main event talent on either Raw or Smackdown because frankly I don’t care about it. I haven’t cared about Cena in about 2 years, and I don’t think I’ve cared about Smackdown’s main-event scene since Brock Lesnar left. The only non-ECW main event guys I’ve been able to get behind in the last 2 years have been Orton (during his Evolution days, but we all know how that ended) and Umaga. Umaga really deserves more credit than he gets. He made that match at the Royal Rumble with Cena better than it had any right to be. The Micheal Buffer in-ring introduction from this years SNME was probably one of WWE’s greatest comedy moments of all time. I mark harder for Dusty and Flair than I do half of the combined WWE rosters. Stables might be the single best thing in wrestling, IMO. WWE needs more of them! Although WSX was wrestlecrap incarnated, you better believe I am buying the DVD! I am thinking of buying the XPW season 1 DVD.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 28, 2007 17:40:43 GMT -5
- Too many wrestlers on the indie scene just choose generic crappy rock music when they have so much to choose from. If I ever see another wrestler use a Marilyn Manson song as their theme, I will scream. When I made a (intended as a joke) thread about possible WWE PPV themes, Mark Blaze suggested that a song like Kate Bush's "Cloudbusting" would work for a show. I'd give it to a wrestler. Despite me disagreeing with some things with my 2 best friends on these boards (MGH on Kelly and Spanky on Santino), I am able to get along with them greatly, and I really wish that other people here would agree to disagree as well. Agreed, there's been a lot of emotional instability here lately.
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