The New Honesty Thread.

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

I don't know if enough time has elapsed from the last time this was done, but I had a ball the first time and I've been itching for another one. You know the drill, all the stuff you have the courage to confess, etc. (EDIT: Do not flame someone because of their confession.)

- I liked Bob Caudle's voice better than Gordon Solie's, who was always too low-key for me.

- I don't mind a good spot-fest. But my first choice will always be a match where body parts get worked on.

- The Undertaker deserves to retire undefeated at Wrestlemania, being one of the great big man workers and a great WWE mainstay. Be it CM Punk, Samoa Joe, Mr. Kennedy, John Cena, Bryan Danielson, Edge- I can't think of any wrestler that would make his streak ending a positive for me.

- And speaking of Danielson, his mic work is under rated.

- I loved Randy Savage as the face-biased third commentator to counteract Bobby Heenan.

- I don't know why, but I prefer CM Punk's G.T.S to KENTA's.

- I thought JBL was a good hoss.

- Rey Mysterio and John Cena are two of the worst rappers I've ever heard in my life.

- Joey Styles doesn't do anything for me. Sorry, but I thought he was overbearing 10 years ago.

- Bam Bam Bigelow could have been a great WWF Champion. But well, you know.

- As a black guy who likes to consider himself socially aware, I'm not offended by Cryme Tyme. I think they're hilarious and I actually want to see them take the belts off of Cade and Murdoch, whom I enjoy as well.

- I still like the front dropkick better than the Styles/Orton fancy ones.

- HHH is one of the greatest heels of all time, and even though I got sick of him with the belt in 2002-03, I didn't want him taken off TV.

- The WWF Title match at the 1994 Rumble was so bad it was great.

- No one punched better than the Hitman.

[Johnny Danger (Godz)]

Around 1999-2000 I found Chyna very sexually attractive ::sobs::

[The Thread Barbi]

I hated the Attitude Era, save for the Undertaker/Kane story arc.

I was pro-Stone Cold between 1996-1997. He went too 'mainstream' for me after that, and lost that killer attitude, like when he broke into Pillman's house, and instead did skits with the McMahons.

I never got the original ECW.

I still don't see the fascination with CM Punk. How is his promo ability any better than Demolition Ax or Demolition Smash?

[MGH]

-It infuriates me (well, as much as wrestling can) when someone connects with the audience and gets over on their own, and WWE pulls the plug on them. I can remember back when guys would get over and WWE would just run with it. Christian is probably reading this nodding in approval.

-CM Punk not getting mic time is the main reason he isn't as over as he could be. More proof positive that WWE just doesn't get it sometimes.

-I like Big Daddy V. I hate Mark Henry and Great Khali.

-It doesn't take the OMGZ STEREOTYPED WORKRATEZ to make me like someone. Randy Orton is about the same wrestler he was back in April when I could have given a crap less about him. Now? He does the stare, he kicks people in the head, and he looks as sinister as anyone in recent memory when he does it. That's enough to turn me around on him.

-That being said, the fact that he was doing a prolonged BODY SCISSORS in a "Beat The Clock" match is still my funniest moment of the year.

-Steve Austin was chasing the title more than he held it, and is one of the top two most over and successful performers in a time where the company was at its peak. Whoever is booking John Cena, please take note. Anyone who honestly thinks people will stop caring about him or buying his merch or tuning in to see him if he loses the belt just .... I don't even know.

-Heel Non-Wrestler Santino is absolute brilliance. Whoever is coming up with this stuff, hats off too you.

[Push R Truth]

I find Todd Grisham entertaining with his nerd antics.


Micheal Cole is so bad, he's fun to listen too.


CM Punk is a good wrestler, but does not do a thing for me. And yes, I'm taking this all the way back to ROH.


Big Daddy V really does get me to tune into ECW.



People always complain about how bad Snitsky is, but that is why he's so good!


JBL as champ was entertaining. He could get everybody to hate him just by getting out of the Limo.



Little Bastard is still Little Bastard to me, dammit!



I miss Gillberg.


Vickie Guerrero is cute.



Micke James looks like a tart.



I mark for Val Venis... on HeAt.



I thought Disco Inferno was held down.



I love Shark Boy.

[Mr. Mediocre]

I genuinely think WWE needs to focus more time on tag teams. Cade and Murdoch are very, very good and were getting big reactions in their feud with the Hardys. Londrick still get pops despite hardly being on TV. Cryme Tyme are so ridiculously over it's absurd.

I'd mark for a Second City Saints reunion.

I think Jillian Hall should be Women's champion.

I was thrilled when Santino turned heel because I want the man to get paychecks.

Cody's got potential. Lots of potential.

I think CHIKARA should have a TV deal.

I don't hate any wrestlers, but I can (and do) dislike the way they're booked.

[CM Dazz]

The majority of the people on this board are WAY to critical. Wrestling is entertainment. If you don't like so and so as champ, or whatever else, don't watch. It really gets annoying. I thought half the board was going to be on suicide watch when Cena beat Orton. GET OVER IT!

[MGH]

Round 2 already!


-The Chris Jericho song that was done around 2002, "King Of My World" or something like that, was phenomenal.

-Speaking of music, the themes for the PPVs every month that get s*** on non-stop? I love 95% of them. I listen to this year's One Night Stand and Vengeance themes seemingly daily.

-For all the crap I give Jimmy Rave, and can't stand his work, he had the best entrance theme in wrestling in 2006-2007. "House of the Rising Sun" is excellent.

-Edge should defeat The Undertaker for the title at Wrestlemania 24 in the main event, then Matt Hardy should dethrone Edge at Summerslam 2008 for that same title.

-I like Cryme Tyme, don't get me wrong. But WWE has a gangsta tag team, and Eddie Kingston and his off the charts worldly promo ability is still stewing around the indies? Not cool.

-The selfish fan in me hopes Jay and Mark Briscoe never make it to WWE, because I'll never see them again. They are the co-wrestlers of the year for 2007 for me, and it isn't even close.

-I don't have a bias against big guys at all, just really untalented ones. And the same goes with little guys. Size isn't THAT important to me. That being said, anyone expecting me to take someone like Pelle Primeau in ROH seriously is just kidding themselves.

-You know what one of my personal favorite things to read on a board like this is? "OH GOD YOU PEOPLE ARE SO BIAS AND HYPOCRITICAL. IF ____ DID _____ AND ____ DID _____ YOU'D SO REACT DIFFERENTLY".

.....Well no s*** Sherlock. You mean to tell me that FANS of something are going to have bias and be hypocritical and play favorites? What a revelation! Your cookie is in the mail.

-The fact that I have lost interest in Smackdown to the point that I haven't watched it in a month really is sad. Best wrestling television for a full year until the draft happened. Now ECW rules the roost.

-I want more Regal. So entertaining. And his GM character is perfect. He isn't getting involved in EVERYTHING, and he isn't over bearing. By the time the night is over I've seen him 4 or so times, but it only feels like one. As opposed to someone like Vince, who I see 5 times and it feels like 50.

["Hollywood" Cactus Matt]

I haven't watched any wrestling since about a week or two before the "Benoit Incident," and don't know when I will again. It's not that I'm suddenly anti-wrestling, it's just that I haven't been interested. I do follow the goings-on online, though.


I think, for as much credit as we give ourselves, a promotion run by the IWC would be out of business in six months or less. (you mean to tell me you'd really push Snitsky?)

There is a BIG difference between "pretty" and "sexy." Miss Elizabeth was very, very pretty. Women like Trish Stratus, Brooke Adams, Mickie James, Ariel, Victoria, etc. are sexy. I could just never imagine getting it on with Liz; she reminded me too much of someone's mom, and a MILF has to be really special for me to take notice.

Rest in peace, Sherri Martel. That having been said, I never thought she was that good-looking, either.

I think death glorifies a lot of wrestlers. Really, out of all of the tragic, taken-before-their-time wrestlers to die in my lifetime, I think the only ones that could have been any sort of World champion (aside from the ones that already won it) were Owen Hart, Rick Rude, and - believe it or not - Brian Pillman, had he been physically 100% during his "Loose Cannon" persona. (I am counting AWA and ECW World title reigns, hence the lack of Perfect, Awesome, and Bigelow.)

I don't give a flying rat's ass about "Z0MG T3H BAKSTAGE POLITIKZzZ!!11!!" - I think Shawn Michaels is the best in-ring performer of his generation.

Every single "fad" on the WrestleCrap boards - from "I DON'T KNOOOOOWW!" to Dennis Stamp to "Come Sunday, I'll be needing it back" - has made me roll my eyes, and the fact that I couldn't read a post for a while without someone referencing one of them made me almost stop posting here.

I think one of the keys to saving WWE's tag division is to start naming the teams again. Hell, back when they started teaming up, both Lex Luger and the British Bulldog had previously-established identities, but still went by the team name The Allied Powers. Right now, they have Cryme Tyme, the Highlanders, the World's Greatest Tag Team, the Major Brothers ... am I missing any? Otherwise, it's just "Guy and Guy." That sounds stupid to me.

I'd mark for a Jim Niedhart return moreso than a Bret Hart return, because chances are Niedhart could still perform in the ring. Of course, this would be reversed if Bret were still able to go.




I can't think of any more; when I do, I'll post them.

[erik316wttn]

-I don't dislike John Cena's in-ring work. I do, however, dislike that he's held the title for so long. He'd be better as essentially the same guy, but a little but nutty in pursuit of his title, relentlessly hunting Orton (or whoever takes it from him) and making his life miserable. Sort of like Austin used to do.

- I like DX HHH far more than the Cerebral Assassin

- Chris Jehrico bored the everloving hell out of me. Although, I do think he'd have a place if he returned.

-I never much cared for the Rock. He said the same damn thing in his promos over and over, until it got to the point where you pretty much knew everything he was going to say before it came out of his mouth. And people loved him for it. And people hate Cena for it. I'll never figure that one out.

[TheDieselTrain]

I'm seriously doubting going to Wrestlemania 24 and its in my hometown because i'm bored with pretty much everything except ECW.

[Mr. Mediocre]

"Just Close Your Eyes" was one of my favorite themes of all time.

Matt Sydal was/will be the first major signing to leave ROH for either WWE or TNA in my tenure following ROH (I didn't see much Colt Cabana for instance). Even though I'm not a big fan of his, I really don't want to see him leave because I fear how they'll use him. I don't know if I'll ever adjust to such signings, especially when the big two eventually grab someone I'm a big fan of.

I really don't give a crap about workrate. If someone does restholds in a way that makes sense, then by all means do it. I care much more about psychology and being able to tell a good story in the ring.

["Hollywood" Cactus Matt]

Oh, here's a few more.

I think when a wrestler drops part of his name - i.e., Bill Goldberg becomes Goldberg, Gene Snitsky becomes Snitsky, John Heidenreich becomes Heidenreich, and to a lesser extent, Darren Drozdov becomes Droz - it lessens the credibility of the "entertainment genre" as a whole. I've just never really been able to get behind someone who doesn't have either a full-on gimmick name or a first and last name. (even if it is "gimmicky" and ridiculous.)

Also, speaking of one-word names, I think it's ridiculous that almost all of the WWE "Divas" have no on-air last name to speak of. Last I checked, they even dropped Candice's last name off of her profile page on wwe.com. That leaves us with Mickie James, Beth Phoenix, and Torrie Wilson. It's silly.



Again, when I think of more, I'll post 'em.

[Dynamite Kid]

godz said:

Around 1999-2000 I found Chyna very sexually attractive ::sobs::

YES! YES! ME TOO!

And dammit whenever I watch either the '00 or '2001 Rumbles and her bit comes up, dammit, my penis gets confused. It goes 'hmmm, boobies? NO, SHE HAS A PENIS DAMMIT. STAY DOWN.'

[The Thread Barbi]

I fail to see how a CM Punk type wrestler, with 'good workrate', as the term goes, working in ROH or the indies, is really better than the current WWE champion - who is at the absolute top of their profession.

Somebody ten times smarter than Einstein may be working at an entry level position for the open source community - that doesn't mean squat to Bill Gates.

[Mr. Mediocre]

One I forgot: I dislike every one of the commentators for TNA and WWE save for JBL and Jim Ross, despite the fact that I respected and liked Tazz, Styles, Lawler, and Tenay for most of my teenage years. Tazz got very, very stupid and Lawler stopped being funny. Styles and Tenay have shot all of their credibility to hell.

[Ash Whenzday]

I don't see the lariat as a finisher... ever.

With the exceptions of fairly innovative wrestlers (Randy Savage and Lanny Poffo for example) I don't enjoy any wrestling that happened before 1990.

Funny commentary can make anything watchable. This applies to PWG and JCW.

I need to buy a CHIKARA DVD, but until they put out a less entertaining podcast, I won't.

I would mark like crazy for CM Punk v. Jericho. In my perfect world CM Punk would be heel, Jericho would be face.

["Hollywood" Cactus Matt]

And another:

I've never, ever been able to take TNA seriously, simply because ... how do I put this without sounding like a prick?

JEFF JARRETT IS A MID-CARDER, NOT A MAIN EVENTER!![/b][/i][/u]

That's also a big reason I couldn't pay attention to late WCW, either. Jeff Jarrett has always just screamed "bland" to me, and him with a World title immediately de-values that title, IMO.

[Baixo Astral]

Hardcore Holly is my favourite worker of all time.

[MGH]

cactusmatt said:

JEFF JARRETT IS A MID-CARDER, NOT A MAIN EVENTER!!

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Quoted. For. F'n. Truth.