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Post by EmptyEYE DUNNOOOOOOOOO on Aug 28, 2007 20:45:21 GMT -5
I was legitimately scared by the JannettyTaker coming out of the Titantron at RR94. Yeah, I was also 10, but so what?
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Post by mazuli on Aug 28, 2007 20:46:30 GMT -5
-Ric Flair has never been entertaining in the ring. Outside of the ring I have trouble understanding him through his lisp.
-John Cena vs JBL in early 2005 before WM21 was my favorite feud of all time.
-JBL is terrible at commentating. On one episode of Smackdown Michael Cole's mic stopped working for a match and JBL had to go solo. He was awful. It was mostly silence with the occasional word here or there. I've seen King and Taz both do some soloing that was much better.
-Undertaker has always bored me and his gimmicks are just silly. A big scary undead man wearing tights?
-Triple H is one of my favorite wrestlers outside of the ring and I always get excited when I hear about him having a match. Then during the match I get bored.
-I never enjoy the main events of any television shows as much as the earlier matches in the show.
-MVP would be much more credible as a champion if he didn't have his arms covered by his suit. I don't know why but he just seems tougher when you can see his bare arms.
-CM Punk is too flabby for a small guy. He looks way too indy for me to take seriously as a champion in the WWE.
-Batista was one of my favorite wrestlers before his injury. Now I can't watch any of his matches even if it's against some of my favorite wrestlers.
-I don't like any big wrestlers like Big Show, Big Daddy V, Mark Henry, or Khali. The only exception currently is Umaga because the man can actually move in the ring better than most guys half his size.
-Austin is very overrated. His mic skills were just average and his in ring skill wasn't so great. What annoyed me the most was he always won so I didn't even bother hoping some other guy was going to win if he was in a match with Austin. This is a big reason why I liked The Rock. The Rock actually put people over.
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Aug 28, 2007 21:50:51 GMT -5
i poop WAY to much!... Honestly I do
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Post by Agent P on Aug 28, 2007 22:10:36 GMT -5
I like The Great Khali. Although that's not really news to anyone who reads half my posts.
I can sit and enjoy an ROH match, but I would get bored if I were to watch an entire show.
I really thought WCW was starting to gain momentum at the end of 2000 up until Vince bought them.
I prefer Mr. Kennedy interviews a lot more then Mr. Kennedy matches.
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Post by Trey Thomas on Aug 28, 2007 22:46:44 GMT -5
I marked at Jimmy Kimmel's joke:
"Chris Benoit is a better father than Flavor Flave!"
I laughed my ass off, there's honesty.
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Post by MikeTX on Aug 28, 2007 22:59:01 GMT -5
I can't put my finger on why I like Kennedy, but I really do ... he's probably my favorite on the roster right now. My roommate, who's less of a fan, saw him do his schtick the other day & agreed that "there's just something about it" that's entertaining.
The FU is still kind of lame. I like Cena, but I'd like him a lot better if he had a flashier finisher.
On the other hand, the STFU actually looks pretty painful sometimes. Mostly because he has those giant forearms ... looks like he's about to squeeze the juice out of his opponent's head.
If the WWE traded ten of their lower-card guys for AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels, then had them do nothing but feud with Londrick, it would still be worth it. If it convinced Samoa Joe to decamp as well, come to ECW, and reprise his matches with CM Punk then TNA would be on its way to irrelevance.
Beth Phoenix, to me, is just as hot as the rest of the divas. If not hotter.
Kurt Angle is still my favorite wrestler, no matter how crazy or dishonest he might or might not be. All the same, I think it's distasteful for TNA to be running a storyline where a mentally troubled wrestler is having a love/hate relationship with his wife this soon after the Benoit incident.
I've always liked Jeff Jarrett just fine. Even with the country music gimmick, even hogging the TNA Title, even during the "Slapnuts" era. Especially during the Slapnuts era, come to think of it.
Come to think of it, Brooke Adams is kind of hotter than Beth Phoenix.
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Post by Designated Drinker on Aug 28, 2007 23:07:21 GMT -5
I marked at Jimmy Kimmel's joke: "Chris Benoit is a better father than Flavor Flave!" I laughed my ass off, there's honesty. The live crowd sure didn't agree,they went almost silent
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Post by Rodney the Piper on Aug 28, 2007 23:11:40 GMT -5
I buy Khali as a credible champ.
I never enjoyed any Brock Lesnar or Lashley match. They are lumped together since they are the same worker.
I would mark out big time for a Matt Hardy title run.
I dont like Jim Ross.
I think Shane, if he was a full time worker, would be better than 80% of the roster.
Shane Helms is as under-utilized as anyone has ever been.
The Rock sucked at everything.
Foley shouldve never been the champ.
Triple H has never once entertained me.
I personally think Victoria and Molly Holly are the two best looking females ever and their spectacular workers to boot.
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Post by GregP19 on Aug 28, 2007 23:38:24 GMT -5
*I don't get the Molly love, she's a good worker, but to say she's the hottest diva ever is absolutely ludicrust...
*I have always liked Jarrett. He is a good heel and is ME worthy imo
*I still need a cold shower when I think of Ric Flair's maid FiFi
*I dont care how 'bad" Cena is, I would much rather have him as a champ then Khali. I cannot fathom how some hates cena with every bone in their body, but still accepts Khali as a good champion.
*I love John Morrison, but I miss Johnny Nitro and he should have lost to Punk on Sunday
*I hate how people on here dislike wrestlers because they have catchphrases and thats how they are over. You do whatever it takes in this business and if it gets a MASSIVE pop and fan interaction (Simmons, Tyme, Kennedy....Kennedy) then so be it
*Any ROH/Indy guy would "sell out" to be in John Cena's position in a second
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Post by Agent P on Aug 28, 2007 23:46:55 GMT -5
*I dont care how 'bad" Cena is, I would much rather have him as a champ then Khali. I cannot fathom how some hates cena with every bone in their body, but still accepts Khali as a good champion. Not 100% sure if this was directed towards me, but I do like Cena. Hell I have a John Cena spinning pendent. I didn't recognize Chris Sabin when he dyed his hair.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2007 23:48:45 GMT -5
I marked at Jimmy Kimmel's joke: "Chris Benoit is a better father than Flavor Flave!" I laughed my ass off, there's honesty. I'll be honest, I laughed too. Mostly at the balls to make a joke like that.
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Post by The OP on Aug 29, 2007 0:08:56 GMT -5
Ok, I guess I can go another round of this. I hope I'm not repeating myself on any of these, but here goes nothing:
- John Morrison is totally awesome. I think it's a very original character, and I enjoy his matches. He has done things we had never seen before, and he doesn't really get his due credit around here for that. Compared to Morrison, Punk always has the same match and hasn't shown us anything original. And I like Punk.
- JBL was the greatest heel champ in WWE since Ric Flair in the early 90s. He got legit heat, and didn't get it cheaply. He always had new things to say and was very effective in his role. I rank him among the greatest WWE champions early 80s to today.
- While I'm not much of a Cena fan, I respect him and I think he's done what he's supposed to do. He's a true babyface in a time when true babyfaces are few and far between. He's respectable in and out of the ring, and if WWE wants that kind of babyface champ, they'd be hard pressed to do better.
- The Rock was great, but overrated as a mic worker. Some of his stuff just wasn't funny to me, even though many found it hilarious. I respect his ability to work a crowd though.
- I think WWE has been great in the last couple years in the sense that they book their shows with a more old school sensibility in terms of having true babyfaces and heels. This may not please everyone, but I like it.
- Mr. Kennedy is great and could probably work equally well as a face or a heel, much like Roddy Piper in his heyday.
- The Hardys are great workers, but don't seem to have main event charisma.
- Cryme Tyme just plain sucks. I don't get why anyone likes them. At the same time, it's nice to see both marks and people on the forum get behind someone.
- The Great Khali is better than Andre was in the 80s. Had Andre been around today, the forum would crap all over him.
- The Big Show never seemed like a legit giant because he took too many bumps. Especially for guys like Mysterio. It's not the least bit believable to me that Mysterio could put a guy like Big Show down with a 619. Not even someone like JBL for that matter, much less Big Show.
- Lashley is lame, but could've been cool if given a good manager.
- On a related note, WWE really needs to bring back managers. You'd think they would realize how much good managers can contribute considering they devoted a DVD release to great ones of the past.
- William Regal as GM is the greatest thing to happen to RAW in some time. Regal is amazing and would do equally well as a wrestler or a manager. I'm glad WWE finally seems to kind of realize how useful he can be to them.
- Tommy Dreamer is completely generic and people only like him because he was in the original ECW. He's also fat now.
- The new DX was the worst thing to happen on RAW in years. It's the only thing that's made me flip channels in a long time.
- Booker T is good at the entertainment aspect of pro wrestling, but isn't very good in the ring.
- Kurt Angle is the greatest wrestler of all time.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Aug 29, 2007 1:13:58 GMT -5
I turn the TV off during Raw earlier and earlier each week. At first, I'd watch up until the main event. Now I'm not even making it that far.
All the major champions, particularly for Raw and Smackdown, bore me to tears.
Cena's done so for years, and hasn't gotten any better. Punches, shoulder tackle, "sort-of" spinout powerbomb, goofy fist drop, fireman's carry, shitty STF. If it's possible for him to put those in some kind of combination that I give a damn about, he hasn't done it yet. His promos are middle school jokes and "The champ is here!" From everything I've heard, he's a great guy. So was my high school math teacher, and he bored me too.
Morrison, I just can't buy as a main eventer. He isn't horrible by any means, but he's midcard. And I just can't get into the character. Yes, it's something different, but different doesn't always equal better.
Khali, don't get me started. He can barely move, I've seen him do 3 moves the whole time he's been out there, and I've not even been able to pick up any psychology. Even Andre in the mid-late '80s when his health was declining did more than 3 moves and could put a match together. And at least you could understand Andre a lot of the time. Khali should not speak on tv, and his interpreter has all the charisma of a UPS truck.
Two of the last 3 indy shows I've been to have entertained me more than WWE has all year. The first was in an armory in front of 30 people counting me and my dad. The 2nd was in an elementary school gym in front of a somewhat larger crowd. The promos, the angles, the in-ring action and psychology were all better than anything I've seen come out of WWE in quite some time. And these guys, especially at the first show, were lucky if they got paid. And they knew it going in.
For the love of Freddie Blassie, bring back managers. They make it so much easier to care about a guy who can't cut a promo.
I don't hate WWE. They've given me a lot of entertainment over the years, and I want them to do well just as I want any group (with the possible exception of one local indy promoter) to do well. I just get angry after being disappointed time and time again.
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Post by smartcenadude on Aug 29, 2007 1:49:15 GMT -5
Non wrestling related but... The Departed would've been sooo much better had Matt Damon not died in the end. dude i dont know about that. i marked hard for mark e. mark. it wouldve been better if nicholson + damon lived, but wahlberg just came out of no where with the quiet shoes and it was clean. pretty cool either way i guess.
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Post by Agent P on Aug 29, 2007 2:09:18 GMT -5
I turn the TV off during Raw earlier and earlier each week. At first, I'd watch up until the main event. Now I'm not even making it that far. All the major champions, particularly for Raw and Smackdown, bore me to tears. Cena's done so for years, and hasn't gotten any better. Punches, shoulder tackle, "sort-of" spinout powerbomb, goofy fist drop, fireman's carry, crapty STF. If it's possible for him to put those in some kind of combination that I give a damn about, he hasn't done it yet. His promos are middle school jokes and "The champ is here!" From everything I've heard, he's a great guy. So was my high school math teacher, and he bored me too. Morrison, I just can't buy as a main eventer. He isn't horrible by any means, but he's midcard. And I just can't get into the character. Yes, it's something different, but different doesn't always equal better. Khali, don't get me started. He can barely move, I've seen him do 3 moves the whole time he's been out there, and I've not even been able to pick up any psychology. Even Andre in the mid-late '80s when his health was declining did more than 3 moves and could put a match together. And at least you could understand Andre a lot of the time. Khali should not speak on tv, and his interpreter has all the charisma of a UPS truck. Two of the last 3 indy shows I've been to have entertained me more than WWE has all year. The first was in an armory in front of 30 people counting me and my dad. The 2nd was in an elementary school gym in front of a somewhat larger crowd. The promos, the angles, the in-ring action and psychology were all better than anything I've seen come out of WWE in quite some time. And these guys, especially at the first show, were lucky if they got paid. And they knew it going in. For the love of Freddie Blassie, bring back managers. They make it so much easier to care about a guy who can't cut a promo. I don't hate WWE. They've given me a lot of entertainment over the years, and I want them to do well just as I want any group (with the possible exception of one local indy promoter) to do well. I just get angry after being disappointed time and time again. You could have taken out the third, fourth and fifth paragraphs if you wanted to convince us you don't hate WWE
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Aug 29, 2007 2:17:22 GMT -5
So, because I don't like their champions (one of which happens to be the guy in your sig), that means I must hate the company? Wow. Who can argue with that logic?
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Post by Trey Thomas on Aug 29, 2007 3:26:35 GMT -5
Non wrestling related but... The Departed would've been sooo much better had Matt Damon not died in the end. dude i dont know about that. i marked hard for mark e. mark. it wouldve been better if nicholson + damon lived, but wahlberg just came out of no where with the quiet shoes and it was clean. pretty cool either way i guess. They keep saying they're doing a sequel, but I just can't see it being good with only Mark e Mark around. If he AND Damon were around, you could've built a sequel around that.
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Post by Agent P on Aug 29, 2007 3:36:18 GMT -5
So, because I don't like their champions (one of which happens to be the guy in your sig), that means I must hate the company? Wow. Who can argue with that logic? No, I am saying you wrote three paragraphs just to say you don't like the champions. You could have merged it all into that last paragraph and say "I don't hate WWE, but their choice in champions suck." We get your point and it doesn't come across as another "I hate WWE" post.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Aug 29, 2007 4:40:03 GMT -5
Ah. So other people can explain the problems they have with things, but I shouldn't because I happen to disagree with you.
Okay, I understand now.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 29, 2007 5:40:34 GMT -5
- I'm not Matt Hardys biggest fan (though I do like him), but I want him to become World Champion more than anyone on the current WWE roster. At Wrestlemania too. It'll be a great moment.
- I usually always enjoy unstoppable Samoan gimmicks, so it goes without saying that I love watching Umaga tear shit up.
- John Morrison has talent in the ring but he doesn't deserve to be ECW Champion. At all. He's a midcarder at best thanks to his attrocious mic work.
- I want to hate Benoit for what he did, but his contribution to wrestling almost gives him a free pass. I hate that.
- I find it offensive how much women are involved in the WWE right now.
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