Albino Heat
Don Corleone
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Post by Albino Heat on Sept 8, 2007 23:48:26 GMT -5
For this match being as popular as it is, I can't remember the build up to it at all. I know Foley had just turned from Dude Love to Mankind, but that's it.
Does anyone remember the build up to this match and why they were in Hell in a Cell?
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Sept 8, 2007 23:54:56 GMT -5
IIRC, Foley was just coming off his feud with Austin, and had a newfound partnership with Kane. They basically switched feuds going into KOTR, with the main event to the Raw, I think the week before KOTR, being Austin/Taker vs. Mankind/Kane HIAC. At the same time, I think it was supposed to be the final battle between Mankind and Taker from a feud that had gone on since about 1996.
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Post by Tyfo on Sept 8, 2007 23:56:10 GMT -5
Foley was basically "fired" by Vince as Dude Love for failing to beat Austin, letting him get hit with a chair, etc. So Foley transforms back into Mankind and starts wearing the shirt and tie to suck up.
He starts helping Kane and Paul Bearer, which gets him involved with Taker. Kane is heading into the match with Austin for the title, thus leaving Mankind for Taker.
There was probably more to it, but thats what I recall off the top of my head.
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 9, 2007 0:01:14 GMT -5
To the best of my memory, Mankind was was trying to be Vince's number one employee. He started wearing that button up shirt instead of the old brown one as a way to try to look "Corporate" to please Vince. Some people called him "Corporate Mankind." Mankind was also friends with Kane, who had been Undertaker's biggest nemesis for months. At the time, Undertaker was still a face. Undertaker and Austin may have tagged a couple of times on Raw and wrestled them. I remember on Raw it looked like Kane and Mankind would be in a Hell in a Cell with Taker and Austin (my memory is very fuzzy on this though). Also, Austin wrestled Kane at that same PPV in a first blood match, during the Austin-McMahon feud.
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Agent P
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Post by Agent P on Sept 9, 2007 2:56:02 GMT -5
June 1 (the day after Over The Edge)-Dude Love is fired. Mankind costs The Undertaker a #1 Contenders Match against Kane.
June 8-JR announces Mankind-Undertaker HIAC. Mankind and Kane attack Stone Cold during Vince's Humanitarian Of The Year Award Ceremony.
June 15-The aforementioned HIAC tag team match.
June 22-Mankind beats Billy Gunn, cuts a promo on Undertaker
June 28-Mankind gets hurled off and through the Cell.
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Corporate H
Grimlock
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Post by Corporate H on Sept 9, 2007 9:47:47 GMT -5
It was basically the final battle in the Mankind vs. Undertaker saga.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Sept 9, 2007 9:52:29 GMT -5
That match originally should have been Austin and Dude inside the Cell for the title, but Russo swerved us behind the scenes and gave us UT and Mankind. Foley openly admits in his first book he thought the match was going to bomb, because he felt worn down, UT had a broken foot, and it just had the feeling of suckiness. And that hurl of the cage was suggested by Terry Funk, whom Mick Foley called crazy after telling him that plan.
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 9, 2007 9:53:44 GMT -5
Unfortunately for Kane, this would also overshadow his one day reign as champ
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Corporate H
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Post by Corporate H on Sept 9, 2007 9:54:39 GMT -5
That match originally should have been Austin and Dude inside the Cell for the title, but Russo swerved us behind the scenes and gave us UT and Mankind. Foley openly admits in his first book he thought the match was going to bomb, because he felt worn down, UT had a broken foot, and it just had the feeling of suckiness. And that hurl of the cage was suggested by Terry Funk, whom Mick Foley called crazy after telling him that plan. Foley also broke a few of his fingers climbing the cell initially. He and Funk watched the original Hell In A Cell together and tried to figure out how to make it even more extreme. |
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Sept 9, 2007 9:55:42 GMT -5
That match originally should have been Austin and Dude inside the Cell for the title, but Russo swerved us behind the scenes and gave us UT and Mankind. Foley openly admits in his first book he thought the match was going to bomb, because he felt worn down, UT had a broken foot, and it just had the feeling of suckiness. And that hurl of the cage was suggested by Terry Funk, whom Mick Foley called crazy after telling him that plan. Foley also broke a few of his fingers climbing the cell initially. He and Funk watched the original Hell In A Cell together and tried to figure out how to make it even more extreme. And Undertaker ran up the cage faster with a broken foot than Mankind at his wellness, which to put quite frankly at the time was a bit south. |
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Corporate H
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Post by Corporate H on Sept 9, 2007 9:59:24 GMT -5
Foley also broke a few of his fingers climbing the cell initially. He and Funk watched the original Hell In A Cell together and tried to figure out how to make it even more extreme. And Undertaker ran up the cage faster with a broken foot than Mankind at his wellness, which to put quite frankly at the time was a bit south. Not only that, but he jumped through the opening of the cell onto his broken foot and completely no-sold it. |
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Sept 9, 2007 10:08:14 GMT -5
And Undertaker ran up the cage faster with a broken foot than Mankind at his wellness, which to put quite frankly at the time was a bit south. Not only that, but he jumped through the opening of the cell onto his broken foot and completely no-sold it. Like he should, he's a phenom dammit!  |
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 9, 2007 10:15:15 GMT -5
I've always been confused as to who the heel and who the face was in this match, but I wasn't watching much in '98.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Sept 9, 2007 10:18:43 GMT -5
'Taker was the face, but JR was bashing him completely because he was like 'what else can he DO?'
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Sept 9, 2007 10:19:10 GMT -5
I've always been confused as to who the heel and who the face was in this match, but I wasn't watching much in '98. Undertaker was the face turning heel, and Mankind was the heel turning face. A tweener if you will! |
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BIG DUNC
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Post by BIG DUNC on Sept 9, 2007 10:35:24 GMT -5
To divert slightly from the actual topic, two questions.
Was the second time he fell (chokeslammed through the cage) intentional?? I've always heard conflicting reports on it.
If he'd actually died from either of the bumps, what sort of liability would taker have. I assume being told to throw him from the cage would sort the first one out, but if he'd actually thrown him through the cage and killed him, would he be in any trouble if it wasn't planned?
Strange i know but i'm not up on US law.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Sept 9, 2007 10:43:19 GMT -5
Most people are certain that the second one was planned. The rumours I've heard are conflicting, the only one I can remember is that Foley denies that the second one was planned because his wife would've been insanely mad at him for voluntarily planning to do both of those massively damaging falls.
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 9, 2007 10:46:48 GMT -5
I don't think Foley has a good memory of the match, does he?
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