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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 13:04:59 GMT -5
THEY BROUGHT BACK THE TUNNELS F*** YEAH Yoooooo! That looks damn good! And yes, the Tunnels being back is very exciting.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 12:48:15 GMT -5
Even if Sting is worried about "not giving it back". This is where the genius of having his run in the company being a tag team with Darby comes in,because at the same time he is putting Darby over big time and The Bucks admittedly dont need the win. Like, I'm not saying Darby is next world champion after this (he has to survive Everest first for one) but if there's a guy whose earned a tonne of believability for a title run in the next year from all of this, it's Darby Allin.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 12:40:00 GMT -5
Yeah, like, I can absolutely believe Sting would want to lose his last match because he's traditional in that way and it's what you'd expect but as I said before, as I watched that crowd and that entrance, there was zero way that wasn't going down like a lead balloon. Basically what happened at Worlds End with MJF and Buffalo x 100.
Also, from a business standpoint, you can go back to Greensboro with people more likely to go because they gave Sting the finale they wanted. Win/Win.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 11:58:48 GMT -5
How's the weather looking for tomorrow night? Any reports of rain coming in? I’d say it’s a coin flip.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 11:25:05 GMT -5
So what's the ballpark for the amount of the words "Are you sure?" said to Darby between when the match was first put together right up to the show itself, 15? 20? 35?
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 11:16:20 GMT -5
The NJPW footage is a great way to get indirect WCW stuff since some actual significant Sting matches did happen over there. Exactly, with a lot of it they didn't even use (the Rick Rude matches being ones off the top of my head that I can think of).
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 10:39:42 GMT -5
Apparently he's still under contract with AEW even though he's retired in-ring. He might do a Legends deal once that's done, but Sting is also the kind of guy who has enough money, name recognition, and connections where he doesn't really need the WWE machine for public appearances or conventions if he wants to do those. Though WWE apparently not letting AEW use any of his WCW stuff for his retirement video packages probably didn't endear the company to the guy. AEW reportedly didn't ask WWE or TNA if they could use any of Sting's footage. I was surprised to hear about TNA because I'd say they'd have zero issue doing it considering how much TNA's social media promoted the hell out of it throughout the week (and Anthem probably could have used the cash and good PR right now) but there was no world where WWE was going to give them the footage. "But eJm, AEW let Jericho go on Austin's podcast and Danielson and Jericho appear on Raw that one time". All true, but WWE isn't exactly a company that returns favors well if at all. Ask PROGRESS why their co-founder is now in WWE's developmental system. EDIT: In terms of footage, it was a coup enough to have prime Sting footage from New Japan where they have him facing The Giant, the Road Warriors and freaking Inoki. As much as other stuff would be good, that isn't exactly nothing either.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 10:31:59 GMT -5
Has to be said, the last time Sting was under WWE contract post-first retirement he did exactly zero on air appearances and a bunch of side cameos at conventions so unless they actually want to push the boat out about how significant Sting was with the footage they have, there's no real reason for him to go that way.
As Ed said, only time we'd see him in WWE is if they want him to induct Lex which, frankly, he's the best guy to induct him. Flair at a push but Sting and Luger have a gigantic amount of history together.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 10:23:22 GMT -5
In all seriousness-now is the time for him to re-sign with WWE. The best use of him now is for merchandise and PR, and WWE has a way better machine for those than AEW. I mean, they had him there for that reason after the HOF retirement and only had him sample catering and stand next to Brutus Beefcake for statue reveals so we literally know already how well they’d do.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 8:27:38 GMT -5
Yeah, pure gibberish. AWA might not have signed Hogan given their level of vitriol towards him, with Verne trying to bribe Iron Sheik to injure him, but Crockett sure as shit would have. I'm 99% sure Jim would have sacrificed his son David for any remote chance of getting Hulk Hogan. Never mind what Fritz Von Erich would do...
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 8:07:46 GMT -5
Important to note that Sting brought his two grown sons thus making it a handicap match and I think our EVPs should be angry about that. Counterpoint; They did attack them first unprovoked. I believe the kids call it "F***ing around and find out".
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 5:25:33 GMT -5
Any time for the longest time an Indie wrestler came in, they "Worked in Bingo Halls and Armories" before making it to the WWE and were essentially "Welcomed to the Big Leagues" Not only a comedown on wrestling itself but a lot of these workers were in fact working large venues, and even yknow... the f***ing Tokyo Dome, before going to WWE. Normally the people saying stuff like that in WWE are HEELS though. Besides the time WWE decided the guy who helped (temporarily) end the Authority in WWE, Sting, was a heel because he was from WCW even though he said in a promo he wasn’t here because he was from WCW. Then apparently it’s fine for the lead play by play to say he doesn’t know anything about big crowds.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 4:15:36 GMT -5
Could possibly be lyrics for the new Dynamite theme.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 4:13:54 GMT -5
Edit: Also people who complain about them having no psychology clearly don't watch their matches. Matt sold his damn back for like 10 years. That's long term storytelling folks. He’s sold that back for so long, I literally remember where I was and when for watching the match where he first injured said back.
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Post by eJm on Mar 6, 2024 0:05:09 GMT -5
Though to be fair, imagine the history Eric would have written if he had won instead of Vince. I mean just listen to the history he tries to write now. He's one of the biggest pathological liars in the business. Bischoff rants about how other companies book things with a lack of self awareness that can almost be admired. Like, I can’t find myself caring about anything Cody/Roman related anymore because of the first stumble, but at the very least I’m not the person who claimed that the main event finish of your biggest event ever was changed because a guy “wasn’t tanned enough”. EDIT: Never mind the fact the last time he had a major job in a big company, he allegedly slept in the locker room whilst Bruce Pritchard did his job for him. It’s really hard to take him seriously as a creative mind in 2024 because of that.
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Post by eJm on Mar 5, 2024 5:50:13 GMT -5
The Katie Vick story. I absolutely get why it’s mostly glossed over, but if it is referred to at all, it’s treated as some quaint little misstep, “oops, what can ya do?” By every account available, Vince legit thought it was going to draw strong ratings and get heat on triple h. Probably in no small part because they were fresh off the gay wedding story which had done good numbers and drawn a lot of cross exposure. And Vince was amazed that single segment caused a huge drop as people changed the channel in droves. So much so, he booked a segment with HHH mocking offended audiences with a human sized dummy which basically said "If you're offended, don't watch" and another drop happened because people went "Cool, we won't then".
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Post by eJm on Mar 5, 2024 5:30:02 GMT -5
He's liquidating to get money for a settlement. Unless he also plans to pay for WWE’s share, I think it’s more him getting his money for the potential house arrest for the Amazon and take out deliveries.
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Post by eJm on Mar 5, 2024 5:27:19 GMT -5
Vince has a long history of looking at what works, drawing the wrong conclusions about why it worked then repeating it in an entirely transparent way that doesn't work at all. Ironically, Vince would be ahead of his time in that front and he must be pleased the rest of the entertainment history has caught up.
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Post by eJm on Mar 4, 2024 17:57:28 GMT -5
Dave Scherer is having his usual meltdown about all things AEW due to this match
Ahh yes, they crossed a line by *checks note* doing a potentially unsafe stunt on a PPV. No other company in history has attempted that.
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Post by eJm on Mar 4, 2024 17:09:33 GMT -5
They did, just not in the style you probably prefer to see. Should be fun watching the discourse from those that have little or no experience with Japanese wrestling because that was very much your usual high level Wrestle Kingdom match in pretty much everyway. It was the style that put NOAH on the map if we want to go further.
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