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Post by Tim on Apr 15, 2011 12:42:11 GMT -5
*DROOLS*
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Post by Tim on Apr 15, 2011 12:40:11 GMT -5
The best part is how Mike Knox is apparently the giant from Jack and the Beanstalk, whereas Jomo comes off as...well...Jack. Melina's the beanstalk? I should go.. I'd climb it. Haha, those were my immediate thoughts, then I scrolled down further and saw it. ;D
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Post by Tim on Apr 15, 2011 3:16:33 GMT -5
Maybe because he likes her? I'm sure you'd do the same for your favorite wrestlers. Especially if their character is being assassinated like this. I don't personally care who she did or didn't sleep with, that's her business. But when some people are treating the claims as absolute fact, and that it makes her some sort of monster, then yeah, we're gonna get a little upset. Exactly who's treating this as fact? Since when was there an agreement on Melina? When was there an agreement on Venis? Hell, there still isn't agreement on whether or not Morrison snubbed Trish, let alone why. Just for posterity, here is what we think we know (allegedly): - Melina might have slept with at least two people backstage: Mike Knox (if Venis is to be believed) and Batista (if Batista is to be believed). Now, just for posterity, Venis is the only one saying Knox and Melina has yet to confirm that she slept with Batista; and yes, I'm applying high school logic to the WWE locker room, since that sounds about right. Unless someone was there, or there's media, It's just rumor.
- However, this is coming from a retired WWE superstar who A) may be bitter that he never broke through, B) is pissed that for whatever reason, Trish got snubbed, and so C) may be lying about Mike Knox for the sake of dragging Melina down further. Batista's a main eventer and isn't particularly ugly, so he can be forgiven, whereas somehow, Melina's crossed the moral event horizon if she gave it to Mike Knox.
- All of this has come up because Morrison snubbed Trish for seemingly no reason: we speculate he did it because he didn't like being in the "Snooki match" where himself, Ziggler, and LayCool were essentially treated as afterthoughts to a reality show chick and a retired wrestler; we also speculate that he was carrying the opinions of the divas who felt disrespected due to the fact that Trish was taking their spotlight and that as a result, LayCool would be the only un-retired divas of relevance that night (Gail Kim accompanied Daniel Bryan, the Bellas accompanied Sheamus, Eve was in a backstage skit, and Beth did Grease with Khali; those were their collective "WrestleMania" moments); there are also those (particularly, his detractors) who speculate that Melina is the sole reason for him snubbing Trish, probably out of bitterness that she (Melina) didn't go to WrestleMania; someone on this thread also brought up that Trish may have threatened to bury Morrison unless he slept with/went out with her, this too is speculation, and is being added because it honestly has no more or less weight than anything else that has been mentioned because it's all speculation!
But again, every single thing up there is still, for the most part, speculation. The only thing we know for a fact now, is that Morrison snubbed Trish. But, again, we still don't know why. Do we really have to legalize this thread; as in, you can't say anything about a wrestler that might offend someone without adding "alleged" or "according to rumors". If it makes you feel any better, I like Melina. Hell, I'm a Melina fan. I also think that Morrison snubbed Trish because of Morrison; not Melina, not the divas, not Snooki, but Morrison. Hell, he didn't even get tagged in. I applaud you.
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Post by Tim on Apr 15, 2011 1:30:57 GMT -5
All of the facial expressions are gold.
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Post by Tim on Apr 15, 2011 1:29:03 GMT -5
What are you talking about? It's obviously true! Some immature fossil's talking trash about people and bringing up some story about their sex life that neither no one has heard of nor can he prove. Therefore, it MUST be the case. Dang, dude. What's with your compulsive white-knighting of any and all things Melina? Who do you think you are, Mick Foley? Maybe because he likes her? I'm sure you'd do the same for your favorite wrestlers. Especially if their character is being assassinated like this. I don't personally care who she did or didn't sleep with, that's her business. But when some people are treating the claims as absolute fact, and that it makes her some sort of monster, then yeah, we're gonna get a little upset.
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Post by Tim on Apr 15, 2011 0:43:05 GMT -5
But the only things that have been confirmed are that JoMo ignored her/gave her the cold shoulder, by Trish herself. Anything beyond that, including possible reasons, or involvement of Melina, is just wild speculation. Uh, did you read my post? You just quoted me, right? Then you know what you just is not a different opinion, but almost the same one, except more pronounced? I did. You said that his claims had veracity. One of his claims was that Melina had anything to do with Morrison's reactions, which was never reported.
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Post by Tim on Apr 15, 2011 0:15:25 GMT -5
Moar Melly. I love her abs.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 23:30:00 GMT -5
It's really not that big of a deal. It's my bad for posting a picture so ripe for 'shopping.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 23:17:23 GMT -5
You know, I'd just like to point out that you don't have to delete the images just because it's getting photoshopped. Unless photoshops are srs business, which they most certainly are not. I suppose you're correct.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 23:00:48 GMT -5
Not even close to funny.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 22:49:47 GMT -5
4) He claims that Melina has also slept with Mike Knox, and implies that she's slept with several of the other guys in the locker room while John Morrison simply sat back and did nothing because he doesn't have the balls to stand up for himself. No he doesn't. He mentions two people. A guy who's been gone from the company for ages tarts talking s***, and now it's an indisputable fact. Look at other threads. All of a sudden "three people" has become "three million people" or "the whole locker room." And that's all we'll ever hear about this. I bet people will still be regularly talking about this in another year here. It's pathetic. It's nothing short of libel and it's being taken as gospel. As much as I agree, I just don't think we're gonna be changing anybody's minds. People are gonna think what they wanna think, and the haters are gonna hate.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 22:27:34 GMT -5
I love that she's pretending the floor is lava. I also love the long socks.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 21:23:35 GMT -5
Because it just rubs me the wrong way. Ten bell salutes are to honor those who are truly no longer with us not used in a storyline like the Big Show's father or Vince's death. But you said 10 bell salutes for those who ARE recently deceased. Did you mean AREN'T?
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 21:02:12 GMT -5
You see, while I agree to a certain extent, there's a certain veracity to his claims. Not his claims on their personal lives, of course. But the rest? It wasn't exactly unfair or wrong for him to say those thigns. That's the part I can understand and agree on partially. But on the attacks on their personal lives. Thaat was an... intentional low blow. But the only things that have been confirmed are that JoMo ignored her/gave her the cold shoulder, by Trish herself. Anything beyond that, including possible reasons, or involvement of Melina, is just wild speculation.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 20:57:03 GMT -5
Ten bell salutes to people who are recently deceased wrestlers Why is this tasteless? It's supposed to be a tribute.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 19:58:19 GMT -5
I just want to add another tidbit. Val isn't necessarily angry at JoMo for forgiving Melina, or Melina bieng allegedly "free-loving". He's angry at JoMo for snubbing Trish Stratus. That's what pisses him off. Had JoMo didn't snub her, I doubt Val Venis will go off like that. I know I'm treading lightly on this (mods, if I'm going too far on this, please tell me immediately), but I always knew Val was some sort of New or Neo-Libertarian type. First, he's very socially open guy. Second, he never complained about being a dead-end gimmick. The reason why I point this out is, I bet Val knows a lot of guys that are prudes that want to protect their spot. Why doesn't he go off on them? Easy-they might have not snubbed one his friends. He either knows or believes that Melina is rather protective of her own spot, and knows or believes Morrison snubbed Trish Stratus (for whatever reasons, whoever told him to), and knows or believes that Melina is "free-loving". I think he was just "that's it. These punks are messing with my 'girl' (good friend) Trish Stratus? She worked her way up from a non-wrestler to a big star? Screw that!" And when he was asked the question, he knew exactly what he wanted to say, and he was intentionally saying what he wanted to say. Make no mistake-this maybe a candid moment from Val Venis, but he was prepared. I bet he was waiting for someone to ask him this question. The combination of Melina's protectionst attitude and JoMo's snub towards Trish Stratus made him feel like he had to do something about it. That being said, I think what he said JoMo being "spineless" and Melina's "free-loving" was uncalled for, and certainly unnecessary. I think he did it as payback for JoMo's snub against Trish Stratus. But still unnecessary. He could have made all his points without those two topics. Look, JoMo's in a hard position. He has two ways to go about it: go all the way, or not go at all. He chose not to go at all with Melina's supposed infidelity. No one should hold him liable for what he should or shouldn't have done, because it's a difficult position. Again, the whole problem of his argument is that he's been an outsider for about six years. He clearly only did this out of revenge to defend someone who he refuses to acknowledge anything negative about, and between the eagerness of his response, the shilling and the fact that he's advertised this video about six separate times on his twitter, it stinks of something rehearsed. Moreover, he's a guy who knows absolutely nothing about the situation he's been told about (he's responding to a rumor) and is making claims about stuff and completely debasing two people based upon something that has been dead and buried for ages, even if all of it is true. It's nothing short of classless. w Nailed it.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 10:29:43 GMT -5
Man, society is obsessed with the sexual nature of other people, kind of disgusting. Nothing can convince me you live on planet earth. Except he was absolutely right.
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Post by Tim on Apr 14, 2011 1:08:28 GMT -5
I'll tell you if that is true than Melina is pretty stupid. I mean I love what Melina does she's done little of note and moreor less takes up a spot on the Divas roster for years (not that that isn't needed not everyone is gonna be #1 talent there has to be someone on the undercard)...to think she's the same level as Trish is simply stupid. Its like Chavo bitching that The Rock took his spot for next years Mania, and even Chavo has at least done more than Melina. Winning multiple Womens'/Divas' championships and being one of the most over females on the roster is considered nothing of note and just taking up space these days?
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Post by Tim on Apr 13, 2011 17:37:50 GMT -5
This got ignored, but it's an excellent point. I guess if they consider one a better wrestler, than it wasn't that bad or even forgiven. Also, it's true with the other gender too. How many girls had CM Punk slept with? But no, he's just considered a legend, while a female allegedly doing that is called a whore or a slut. In fairness, that's an attitude that tends to pervade society in general and not just wrestling fans. The point about Beth is still valid though.
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Post by Tim on Apr 13, 2011 17:29:19 GMT -5
When did she air that nugget of info? Doesn't matter either way, just curious of when that possibly woulda been brought up. It was in something for WWE Magazine during mid-2006. JR brought it up once. By the way, does anybody remember the blog of independent wrestler Joey Knight? Anyone remember who he was married to, and why he was complaining about them? I don't want to go into details about this because it isn't what the thread is about, but the point is, why does one female wrestler get eternally picked on for something they've probably all been guilty of in the past? This got ignored, but it's an excellent point. I guess if they consider one a better wrestler, than it wasn't that bad or even forgiven. Also, it's true with the other gender too. How many girls had CM Punk slept with? But no, he's just considered a legend, while a female allegedly doing that is called a whore or a slut.
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