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Post by Bobeddy on May 9, 2015 18:00:56 GMT -5
As far as Lancel goes, I know they put the Mark of Samael on his forehead, but do they actually know of his sins of f***ing his own cousin (i.e., queen)? Did he have to take that walk with his ass cheeks out? I would say the newly devout Lancel has probably been completely upfront and probably has already taken some sort of scourging. If not, when he does finally offer that information up he'll take whatever punishment that comes with the the content acceptance of anyone blindly faithful to a cause.
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Post by Bobeddy on May 9, 2015 17:58:17 GMT -5
It's been a long time since I saw the movie but doesn't Haley explain something along the lines how dead people see what they want to see? Maybe that somehow plays into it?
The dead child psychologist that doesn't know he's dead imagines up a letter that allows him to talk to the one child on earth that he can actually talk to and help?
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Post by Bobeddy on May 7, 2015 9:19:02 GMT -5
On a side note to this storyline, I haven't seen anyone bring up the mirroring with Jamie/Brienne. In season 3 Jamie was the one saying to kill the guy who knows information, the random farmer they met. Now he's saying the guy will be ok, and Bronn's the one who correctly says they'll turn them in and within 5 minutes that's exactly what happens, they just happen to win that fight. I had completely missed that. Good catch.
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Post by Bobeddy on May 6, 2015 14:20:14 GMT -5
Because if something's sanctioned by authority that means the family has to be cool with it? By that logic, Robb Stark had no right to do anything when the King of Westeros chopped off his traitor father's head for treason. Because that's what happened. Remove all the background knowledge we as viewers have and the only thing there is to say Joffrey/Tommen aren't Robert's heirs is a rumour. "My father was killed. I want to hurt the people responsible." To say the Sand Snakes motivation is stupid is to say the motivation for two seasons worth of storyline was stupid. Completely different situation. Ned didn't agree to enter into a sword vs. neck swinging contest. Compare the duel between Bronn and Vardis from season one. The people in the Eyrie, and likely Vardis's family were angry. But, they let Bronn and Tyrion leave and there haven't been any random blood feuders tracking them down, because they agreed that was how the law went, and the participants went in willingly knowing the risks. They agree to these laws for a reason, otherwise every trial by combat would be an endless cycles of vendettas. No, Ned didn't agree. Because he was executed for treason. He didn't produce a scrap of evidence to support his position so, morally, Robb's march was completely unjustified. His action was based on emotion and passion as are the Sand Snakes. Moreover it's been established that the Dornish are a volatile people. And on the point of them agreeing to laws, the Dornish see themselves as almost separate to the rest of the Seven Kingdoms. This is evidenced by their unique positions when it comes to inheritance, bastards, relationships, their stance on poison. Their allegiance to Westeros is a lip-service that gets fainter as the days of dragons slip further into the past. Which lends itself to the idea that they wouldn't just accept Oberyn's death without action just because he died in a trial by combat. These are the children of the volatile, dangerous, revenge-driven Prince of Dorne. They're father was killed, remove all outside factors, they're father was killed. Given how they were raised and who raised them, of course they'd be out for vengeance.
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Post by Bobeddy on May 6, 2015 13:43:41 GMT -5
These people have wanted revenge for many years, their father tries and is killed...are they supposed to just give up now? Yes, he lost a duel, where he tried to kill another guy. They can keep the blood feud going over Elia, but they have no moral right to do anything in regards to Oberyn, which is their entire motivation. And that's stupid. Because if something's sanctioned by authority that means the family has to be cool with it? By that logic, Robb Stark had no right to do anything when the King of Westeros chopped off his traitor father's head for treason. Because that's what happened. Remove all the background knowledge we as viewers have and the only thing there is to say Joffrey/Tommen aren't Robert's heirs is a rumour. "My father was killed. I want to hurt the people responsible." To say the Sand Snakes motivation is stupid is to say the motivation for two seasons worth of storyline was stupid.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 28, 2015 11:54:31 GMT -5
I liked seeing Jon not taking any more crap from those old buzzards. I almost thought he'd let the old fart go, but thankfully he didn't. It made a good exclamation point on all the development he's had. Can't wait to see what happens with him and Stannis. I also am really excited to see Tyrion possibly end up in Dany's council. I don't think things are going to go the way Jorah thinks they will. Slynt's beheading is one of my favourite parts in the book, it's great hearing Jon's thought process leading up to and during it. Also really glad they kept in the Stannis nod.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 27, 2015 17:26:29 GMT -5
And how can Sansa marry anyone, given she's still wed to Tyrion? In Westeros a marriage isn't binding until it's consummated. Tyrion and Sansa never had sex so if Sansa was to marry another man and have sex with him, that would take precedence and be her legitimate marriage. How can they tell she's still a virgin? An exam beforehand and either examining the bedsheets afterwards or just straight up having witnesses to see the blood. ....I am not making this up, it's in the books!
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 22, 2015 12:47:15 GMT -5
Except you forget that Varys' plan was to get a Targaryen on the throne, not Dany. At the time he sent the assassin, Viserys was the Targaryen heir and still very much alive. At this point Dany didn't have dragons or an army, or had yet to do anything for anyone to believe she could rule. All she was Khal Drogo's wife and mother of his unborn son. So if Dany gets poisoned and Drogo loses his wife and child, killed by Viserys' enemies, that could be the spark that motivates him to bring his khalasar across the sea and help Viserys claim the throne. Viserys died in Episode 6, and the poisoning didn't happen until Episode 7. And at that point Varys said to Ned it was too late to call back the order. With Viserys dead, Varys is hitching his flag to the only living Targaryen. The guy adapts when he needs to. why someone concerned with the good of the realm would want Viserys to be king is anybody's guess. Once it's revealed that Varys was the one working with Illyrio to put Viserys back on the throne, chances are Varys would be kept as Master of Whispers. At that point he could help direct and counsel Viserys to being a good king. If it's clear it's not going to work out, wait for him to have an heir, arrange Viserys' death and then install someone capable as the kid's regent while the heir is groomed to not be a train-wreck.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 21, 2015 16:13:10 GMT -5
Even though they were the villains, one little thing that I really liked in the show was the relationship between Fisk and Wesley. It was much more than the typical boss/henchman dynamic as it was clear that they were both genuinely concerned for the wellbeing of the other. Wesley was straight up my favorite character. He was fantastic. Gotta agree. I'd say he was my favourite too. {Spoiler} Boy, was I disappointed to see him get killed. Elaena was sad. Ben seemed inevitable. But Wesley, man, Wesley would be the one I'd take back if I could.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 21, 2015 15:59:57 GMT -5
Even though they were the villains, one little thing that I really liked in the show was the relationship between Fisk and Wesley.
It was much more than the typical boss/henchman dynamic as it was clear that they were both genuinely concerned for the wellbeing of the other.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 20, 2015 19:20:05 GMT -5
Arya is my favourite character in the books and show (and I think Maisie Williams is great) so it was great to see her again after missing her last week. I really enjoyed her scenes and am looking forward to the rest of her story this season Arya is also my favourite character and I agree Maisie Williams has been killing it from the get go.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 20, 2015 18:45:21 GMT -5
I presume to keep up appearances in court. Wouldn't do for your Spymaster to do nothing about the Targaryen issue . Except, you know who controls all the information? Varys. "Yes my king, my little birds tell me the Targaryen girl avoided assassination." You know what that doesn't require? Actually sending assassins! Except you forget that Varys' plan was to get a Targaryen on the throne, not Dany. At the time he sent the assassin, Viserys was the Targaryen heir and still very much alive. At this point Dany didn't have dragons or an army, or had yet to do anything for anyone to believe she could rule. All she was Khal Drogo's wife and mother of his unborn son. So if Dany gets poisoned and Drogo loses his wife and child, killed by Viserys' enemies, that could be the spark that motivates him to bring his khalasar across the sea and help Viserys claim the throne. Viserys died in Episode 6, and the poisoning didn't happen until Episode 7. And at that point Varys said to Ned it was too late to call back the order. With Viserys dead, Varys is hitching his flag to the only living Targaryen. The guy adapts when he needs to.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 20, 2015 16:26:40 GMT -5
Also, I knew I wasn't going to love the Dorne plot as much as I did without Arianne but holy shit I didn't realise I was going to enjoy it this much less. I just don't feel the characters the way I did in the books. The changes they made in this episode were wholly unnecessary at times. I must say, even with his very brief screen time, I did like how they portrayed Doran. Reserved but absolutely not taking any crap from Ellaria. Though I can't help but think that they could have had her make a snipe about his gout to explain why he's in a wheelchair.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 20, 2015 16:23:07 GMT -5
I'll see this in the hope that maybe, just maybe, even if it's a long shot, maybe this Doom will turn out good.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 20, 2015 13:24:40 GMT -5
I find myself really annoyed by Lady Martell, she has no case or right to revenge and will obviously f*** everything up. Her case for revenge is that the Lannisters took the one she loved so now she will hurt them. In the eyes of gods and men Oberyn lost fairly and his death wasn't murder but if there's one thing that's been established about the Dornish it's that they're fiery, passionate in every sense of the word. She's taking revenge because she can and she wants too. Though I'm justifying the character's motivation, please be aware that I much prefer book Ellaria's reaction. There's a sorrowful dignity to her and she has one of my favourite passages in the series about the futility of revenge.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 20, 2015 13:15:37 GMT -5
Littlefinger's accent appears to have stabilized a little bit, at least. He was in a 3 part mini-series in Ireland about one of our more controversial Taoiseachs and he's definitely having some hangover from playing that role.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 18, 2015 11:19:35 GMT -5
The nature of the show (coupled with its intended audience) means that the path of nearly all the stories are going be predictable. So being painfully aware of how the episode ends in the first five minutes of an episode stopped being an issue for me quite a while ago.
I'd say I preferred this week's episode over last weeks. While it was clear how both episodes were going to play out, there was more that made me laugh or got a reaction out of me than last week. I'd probably go with an 8.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 18, 2015 11:00:58 GMT -5
Scootaloo being happy she was dreaming because it meant she could fly was adorable.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 18, 2015 10:57:11 GMT -5
Luna letting AB see other people's dreams? Surely that's a breach of data protection or something?
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 18, 2015 10:54:44 GMT -5
That's weird, I was just about to say that they should take this to the next level and have the next dream be AB being a cutie mark!
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