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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 11, 2012 19:54:24 GMT -5
Can we get an updated list of who voted for who so far? I'm on campus right now, but I'll try to get one in later tonight. Busy stuff and all that, apologies.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 8, 2012 13:47:43 GMT -5
I should probably add that the posts that say present should probably involve game related content of some kind. You two are fine though, as I'm only bringing this up now. The color of the word, present, is in orange, primarily so that I can easily see it and check you off the activity list I have.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 8, 2012 13:15:51 GMT -5
The Queen's Message:
There will be an inactivity check in this day phase. Everyone must make a post that says (Present). Whoever doesn't make a post or check in by the end of this day phase (Friday, September 14th) will be inactive killed from the game or replaced.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Current Vote Count:
Evil Fluffy Bunny sMurf (1): Double H J (1): Pegasuswarrior
Not Voting: ASK HIM!(Waffel113) Bergman Daime and the Infinite Remix Evil Fluffy Bunny sMurf Gus Richlen Hawkeye Jefferson Winger J Jonathan Michaels Kami: Guardian of the Earth Notorious Ritt Sharpshooter Sin Spartan SnS Super Magiconz The Honorable Judge B Natural The Joker lodirulz
With 20 of you left, 11 votes are needed for a lynch or else there is NO lynch. **Deadline for a lynch is Friday, September 14, after Smackdown! Hawaii Time.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 7, 2012 13:44:15 GMT -5
*Note: I will not be creating a new thread for this game at this time.
Current Vote Count:
Evil Fluffy Bunny sMurf (1): Double H
Not Voting: ASK HIM!(Waffel113) Bergman Daime and the Infinite Remix Evil Fluffy Bunny sMurf Gus Richlen Hawkeye Jefferson Winger J Jonathan Michaels Kami: Guardian of the Earth Notorious Pegasuswarrior Ritt Sharpshooter Sin Spartan SnS Super Magiconz The Honorable Judge B Natural The Joker lodirulz
With 20 of you left, 11 votes are needed for a lynch or else there is NO lynch. **Deadline for a lynch is Friday, September 14, after Smackdown! Hawaii Time.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 7, 2012 0:26:47 GMT -5
*Thank you guys for getting it in after the extra given day. Hopefully we won't have to take as long, next time* www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxINMuOgAu8We Will Eat You The party was packed at the mansion the whole night, the souffle/pie was in high demand as people kept eating and enjoying themselves, pretty much distracted and having too much fun to worry about anything, until something happened on the theater sized television in the living area.
TBBN News reporter, Jeffrey Mccafferty was giving a report on the vampire rights amendment when something happened, out of nowhere, causing the partiers to stop and watch momentarily.
One vampire could only watch in shock from her Limo's TV as the events unfolded and the perpatrator on television gave his speech.
The vampire, so shocked by what happened left her limousine and headed to the mansion in an effort to coerce the idiot citizens of this backwoods hick town to stop f***ing around and get back into trying to lynch these bastards, taking hits on the AVL PR.
Meanwhile, back at the mansion people were still left in disturbed awe after seeing a news anchor murdered on live TV. As the channel went into a "technical problems" screen, something seemed to be happening at the party on the outside of the mansion.
images.wikia.com/trueblood/images/d/dc/AndyPig.gif [/img] "What you doin' in there.... PIIIIIIIIIIG!?!" Detective Andy Bellefleur was busy getting drunk and staggering around the premises, questioning a pig after previously interrogating someone else the day before about the woman who had her heart ripped out. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vx-DpDc-QwHe was distracted when suddenly... A large firebolt of some sort flew out from nowhere and headed straight to one unassuming individual. People jumped and ducked out of harms way as the blast headed toward it's target. What was unexpected was the ball of energy stopped and dissipated prematurely as if it hit into some sort of forcefield. The backfire of explosion was still enough to confuse the partiers who scattered all over the place. Using the moment as a perfect distraction, a few individuals went to action. "What the f*** is going on over here?" said the vampire who had just left her limo. There had been some sort of explosion that caught her off guard when suddenly the bushes rattled and a shadowy figured sprinted toward her. Being caught unexpected, the vampire felt a large claw dig into her back, immediately causing her to start vomiting black blood, even as a vampire, she'd never expected to feel this sort of pain as she slowly dragged herself back into the limo and toward a hotel room for the night. Andy Bellefleur was also distracted by the large boom, lifting his attention from the pig and toward the mansion. "What the hell?! Is that another damn suicide bomber?" Andy took a swig of his liquor bottle when he heard the sound of heavy boots heading his direction. "Who's out there!? You better show yer self right now. I'm a cop!" When nothing happened he assumed it must've been another pig or something and started walking toward the mansion, when a shadow figure popped out from behind a tree. Andy was scared sh**less, dropping his bottle of liquor and desperately digging for his gun, when the figure pulled out a leather belt and looped it around the poor detective's neck. Andy struggled, fighting back against his adversary, but he was too heavily intoxicated from the party to be effective. After a few moments, Detective Andy Bellefleur, fell to the ground. Dead. ~~~~~~~~~~~ The next morning people were left in shock after the events of last night and were left in even more shock when the town's best detective was found dead outside, next to a pig. "My goodness," said one person. "What a horrible event has transpired all of us! I invite you all to come to the church at once where we can finally bring these fiends to justice!" Everyone nodded in approval and headed to the Fellowship of the Sun Church that afternoon, to finally try to focus and find the scum responsible for killing the lovable Andy Bellefleur. "Ugh, I have a bad feeling about this place. Too many smiles," uttered one very annoyed individual. [/i] *Cue True Blood Twist/Cliffhanger Sound Effect*Met the True Death:Cageking: Luke McDonald - Mafia Suicide Bomber, (Detonated Suicide Bomb, Day One)The Honorable Judge B Natural: Timbo - Innocent Child, (Killed by Suicide Bomb, Day One)knailsic: Eric Northman - Town Vigilante, (Lynched, Day One)Street Spartan: Sam Merlotte - Town Sensor, (Strangled, Night One)itsvadertime565: Dr. Ludwig - Town Doctor/Poison Curer, (Night-killed, Night One)Latino Meat: Detective Andy Bellefleur - Town Insane Cop, (Strangled, Night Two)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It is Now Day #3!Not Voting:ASK HIM!(Waffel113) Bergman Daime and the Infinite Remix Double H Evil Fluffy Bunny sMurf Gus Richlen Hawkeye Jefferson Winger J Jonathan Michaels Kami: Guardian of the Earth Notorious Pegasuswarrior Ritt Sharpshooter Sin Spartan SnS Super Magiconz The Honorable Judge B Natural The Joker lodirulz With 20 of you left, 11 votes are needed for a lynch or else there is NO lynch. Deadline for a lynch is Friday, September 14, after Smackdown! Hawaii Time.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 6, 2012 23:14:35 GMT -5
I'm thinking of a very bare bones small mafia game. No real gimmick, no identity/role/alignment connection whatsoever, no big end motive for the mafia, and most of all, no clues in the writeup. Literally this would be the writeup: Queen Mab is dead. She was ____________, vanilla townie, town aligned.As for marketing it, I figure it'd be perhaps the most difficult game of mafia yet, which would hopefully entice players confident in their ability, and/or well respected by everyone else. So two questions: First, for Sawyer- Given that there is literally nothing to work with besides player's actions, would that be a little too rough, Mab? Second, for everyone- Would people be interested in an admittedly very difficult game? Actually, I have played mafia games like this! lol. They're small 'beginner' games basically and nope, I don't think it would be that rough/difficult. Maybe for this forum, but it's really not that difficult at all. It's just that many players on this forum tends to rely a bit on write-ups and that might cause them the difficulty there. I am actually in support of this type of game, just so people can hunt for scum based on looking at each other's motives/playstyle/FoS and Voting styles/tells. I honestly hope that people are trying to do this in the current games though. I know Vadertime (I gots to say, is a really good set-up creator. He didn't really even need my help at all) is planning to do things this way. ~~~~~~~ As said though, even though a Vanilla game is a very good idea, imo - I know people would probably be less interested in joining it, due to the lack of theme. I personally don't mind, but I think alot of the players on this forum do. Though a 'mini' vanilla game could probably fill!
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 6, 2012 22:51:45 GMT -5
I would have wanted to do that adding of new characters in at later phases in HBO's TB theme, because of the sheer number of characters that could potentially be use... BUT it's really not a fair game of mafia if we did do that.
So unfortunately, I'd be a bit uncomfortable with that, as adding a new character role is unfair as it gives that specific role a "Free Pass" for the day and could potentially unbalance the game. For example, say the town lynched a vanilla townie on day 1 and that person comes back as a mafia doctor. See, what I mean?
Ultimately as a GM, it is up to you to make that decision. I'm just personally against it due to reasons I've state above.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 6, 2012 22:35:48 GMT -5
I really hope folks know that write-ups dont always give clues. You'll have to do some guess work based on motives and tells. Not every game has a theme for example. I used to look into write ups as well. Then I started playing games with no themes at all, Vanilla games that just told the person who got eliminated - then I realized from there that the way I played was flawed. Remember guys, dont depend or rely on looking for clues in the write ups. That is not exactly how mafia is played. But yeah, Mr. B did splendidly in making a story.Not going to take that away.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 6, 2012 2:50:51 GMT -5
Glad to see Little Talks on the list.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 6, 2012 2:26:11 GMT -5
Making 20-26 is fine btw. Just trying to prevent more new games from needing too many players, that is all.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 6, 2012 2:24:28 GMT -5
I said around 20 or less, so 21 would work.
Im just mentioning this to everyone now, so it doesn't become a trend, that I may have inadvertantly started. Used to be around 20 was the norm, before I went for a really large number recently. Not trying to cut you down after working on this for a long time.
Just... The list has been getting larger and larger games.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 6, 2012 1:58:20 GMT -5
Guys, I'm noticing many of the large games are starting to get a range of players needed... Larger and larger..
I know I went with 26 for HBO TB, but that was before I knew that it would take so long to fill and even still, not everbody showed.
I suggest for people to keep their range of players around 20 or less, to get a realistic turn out. I know for example DBZ originally had 20 players or near that, but it seems to have increased to 26 sometime along the line and alot of people have been submitting theme ideas with 26+ players. Just wanted to give notice for you all to consider before running your large games and setting a high number of people.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 5, 2012 21:09:50 GMT -5
I am in total agreement with the OP. All you freaks need to GTFO.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 5, 2012 20:02:02 GMT -5
Oh and one quick. #3. Investigations should only give the guilty/not guilty Or town/not town read. It should not give the character's name. ~~~~~~~~~~ What's interesting for people to really look into as a cop, is that your abilities are not 100% as proven in this game. DO NOT depend on the investigation results only. Use YOUR OWN intuition. It's what prevented a scum lynch one day. Just because you get a innocent read on someone, like Hawkeye, it doesn't confirm them as town. As there are definitely shrouding abilities out there, like some scum can be assigned to. Same with the town having roles that make them come off as guilty, even if they aren't. Usually there's just one of each though. But be careful to not disregard a person's comments just because you got an innocent read on them. I've seen many games where it screwed over the town, because of trusting the innocent read after investigating some very clever, Mafia Godfathers.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 5, 2012 19:50:28 GMT -5
Can this thread be linked in the actual game thread? Or can the above information be added to the game thread? Makes going back and looking at these game difficult if we have to go to two different threads with nothing connecting them. I've linked the thread for convenience. EDIT: And reading over the quicktopic, it seems like Hawkeye was kind of screwed. He kept asking for opinions/ideas, and wouldn't get any answers. Good observation! If there's anything that really works against a scum-team, it's the lack of cooperation between team-mates. That's a huge power for the scum, to know and plan together. If the scum are not using this ability during their night-phase, then I don't know what to tell you. The Scum should be discussing together with the rest of their group to really be effective. Just look at the scum team in the WWE Superstar theme. I think in large part they had done so well, was because of the very strong team-work they had shown with each other. So if you're scum and you want to do well, you must work together with your team-mates at night! (No communicating during day-phase except in thread). ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Also Mr. B Natural, despite what I brought up here, you did a very good job as host. Again, it's just two things that could be fixed for next time: 1. The write-ups with too many characters/night-actions being given to the players right there. Described in the link above. You'll want the players to do the detective work themselves. 2. The long, long night phases, which should be shorter than the day phases, not equal, but you've already considered it, so no problem!
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 5, 2012 16:04:26 GMT -5
Are you going to be creating an aftermath thread, Mr B?
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 5, 2012 13:07:53 GMT -5
Like some of the others here, it also really reminded me of an Attitude style match. I loved it. Cena & Del Rio have surprising chemistry.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 5, 2012 12:00:46 GMT -5
Yes, I was tricked into one by my friend. Dick- He didn't tell me we were going to do the meeting part. Wasted my whole day.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 5, 2012 11:36:29 GMT -5
I'd rather not have people voting, as that would always end up with the more 'popular theme' getting the go.
My thought is, like what we've been doing so far, is to have the hosts that are ready-ish decide amongst each other who should go next. Like when GDR, wolf-hurricane (Who is absent) and Stinger (who is also absent now and I'll need to update the list) allowed others to go before themselves. If it can't be handled that way between people, I'll go with whoever is next up on the list at 'ready' and whoever is looking most into running their game (since sometimes people lose some interest or are unable in running their game at any given moment, even when they're next on the list).
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 5, 2012 1:34:13 GMT -5
**Updated the front page with what I know of so far. @ Double H - Did someone help you setup already, since you asked for some? If not, I'll recommend Brad. @ Daime - You don't need to run a small game first, you can go straight to the Large game if you want. It's just that, I personally prefer when hosts learn how to host through a smaller game first. Iron out any problems before hand which can be improved later on. B Natural's write-ups are probably my favorite. It may hurt a group more than saying "Hey. This guy is dead. He got shot.", but in my opinion, it makes the game more interesting and fun. I look forward to reading his write-ups for the story aspect. Look at it this way. You were mafia in the WWE Superstars game. Do you think you would have fun, if I had revealed all your night actions and your scum-mates' in my write-ups, pointing the fingers at you especially when everyone was claiming their roles? It certainly wasn't fun for Gus Richlen, recently. Concerning write-ups: I agree with Brad on the issue. It's NOT a mafia game if all the info is handed out by the GM to the players. Instead it becomes a game of analyzing the write-ups and playing it that way. I mean, you could definitely give game related little references that happened, as I do, but mostly it should stick to flavor rather than write-ups being the center of the game. Mafia is a game where you're supposed to do guess work and look for player motives on why they may do things, along with players vote patterns and what not. It's no fun, when all the info is handed out in the write-ups and someone is screwed over, and as a host you didn't mean to. Trust me, I've messed this up before in a previous game I've hosted (Hunger Games) revealed too much characters in the write-ups which were part of the game and that was unnecessary which led to a mass role claim. If that's the game people can just role-claim on day 1 and lynch all the bad guys. But where's the fun in that? **You can have the write-ups be entertaining, detailed and tell a narrative storyline, which can be engaging without revealing power-roles, too many characters or night actions. At least... that's what I've tried to do in HBO's True Blood Mafia, in trying to make things interesting without giving all the answers, but I'm not so sure if it has worked anymore after reading this thread. I may do subtle hints here and there, but nothing that is going to blatantly tell people answers, as it is the towns job to do some detective work. ~~~~~~~~~~~ @ Brad - Interesting that you have revealed all characters in the game in the Day 0 write-up. That'll prevent fake-claim strategies that are sometimes used and that is not the usual, but still it's an alright method of game, just different. It's like an "OPEN" set-up, except with characters instead of roles being revealed from the beginning. @ Latino - Don't worry about write-up or backstory. It is NOT the important part of the game, so you don't have to be this fabulous writer. Write-ups should mainly be flavor to move the game along. FINALLY: Latino Meat can start the "Saved By the Bell" theme sign-ups OR Vadertime can start his mini Batman theme sign-ups after Phoenix Wright theme is over. Since both of you are Ready. Decide amongst each other.
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