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Post by machinegun on Dec 13, 2007 0:54:16 GMT -5
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Ass Dan
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Post by Ass Dan on Dec 13, 2007 0:55:22 GMT -5
In those days, RAW was the opposite of workrate.
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Post by molson5 on Dec 13, 2007 0:58:03 GMT -5
It was still the era of "If you want to see the champ wrestle, you'll have to buy a ticket and go to a house show".
The sole purpose of television for wrestling had always been advertising for live events - until the Monday Night Wars made ratings relevant and a competition of sorts.
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Post by machinegun on Dec 13, 2007 1:00:05 GMT -5
Wow, Bret wasn't on Raw from the 10th Raw to the 27th Raw too
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Lancers
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Oh you
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Post by Lancers on Dec 13, 2007 11:11:07 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, wasn't Superstars still the flagship show for the WWF at this time? I know for years their syndicated programming was their bread and butter.
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erik316wttn
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Post by erik316wttn on Dec 13, 2007 11:20:47 GMT -5
Back in those days IC title matches often main-evented Raw.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Dec 13, 2007 14:46:07 GMT -5
If you think that was odd.. you should've seen how WCW did it with Hogan. Wouldn't he be gone for months at a time even while as champ cause he was working on movies?
I kind of miss that in a way. It really made RAW and Nitro World Championship matches feel all that more special. It also made it so those top guys had more lasting appeal in the limelight. I remember as kid when those guys showed up it was a total mark out time.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Dec 13, 2007 14:58:34 GMT -5
Well, he always was showing up late.
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Lancers
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Oh you
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Post by Lancers on Dec 13, 2007 15:02:25 GMT -5
If you think that was odd.. you should've seen how WCW did it with Hogan. Wouldn't he be gone for months at a time even while as champ cause he was working on movies? I kind of miss that in a way. It really made RAW and Nitro World Championship matches feel all that more special. It also made it so those top guys had more lasting appeal in the limelight. I remember as kid when those guys showed up it was a total mark out time. Concurred. What sucks is that I don't think they can go back to these methods because of the constant pressure of maintaining high ratings and interest in PPVs every four weeks. Hogan holding the belt for four years seems about as long as John Cena holding the belt for one year in this day and age.
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Post by soultsukino on Dec 13, 2007 18:24:56 GMT -5
At least Hart showed up. After WM 9 did Hogan even appear on TV (let alone RAW) at all?
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 13, 2007 18:26:33 GMT -5
WCW Nitro really started the trend of having the big name stars wrestling regularly each week on free TV.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 13, 2007 18:27:22 GMT -5
At least Hart showed up. After WM 9 did Hogan even appear on TV (let alone RAW) at all? I think he did one appearance on a Superstars doing an interview, but that was it. In those times the champ wasn't on TV a lot, of course that would change in the ensuing MNW.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Dec 13, 2007 18:35:56 GMT -5
WWF Champ, not WWE champ. There was no WWE then. Sorry, that's a pet peeve of mine.
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Post by skillz on Dec 13, 2007 18:47:14 GMT -5
WWF Champ, not WWE champ. There was no WWE then. Sorry, that's a pet peeve of mine. Ditto. I can't stand when WWE is used to describe anything pre-2002. As for Bret, as others have mentioned, seeing the champion wrestle on TV was a rarity. It became more frequent when Bret was champion in 1992 because they had to legitimize him to the audience, but otherwise, it was mainly big events and house shows. I too liked it better that way. Seeing your favorites every week doesn't make their appearances seem all that special.
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Jay Peas 42
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Dec 13, 2007 18:51:04 GMT -5
Yeah, the champ and other major draws would not appear on free television at the time. That practice died in 1998. Heck, I remember seeing a Stone Cold v. Goldust match in late 97 and being shocked about it. It also makes sure that the champ wouldn't get hurt as much, because he didn't wrestle as much. Of course, my question is, how did anyone even know who the champ was under those circumstances?
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Post by molson5 on Dec 13, 2007 18:59:59 GMT -5
Of course, my question is, how did anyone even know who the champ was under those circumstances? They were still talked about ALL the time and did lots of promos. Like syndicated WWF in the 80s. Hogan NEVER wrestled on TV (except on SNME), yet he was very much the focus of the show. He'd cut promos hyping his house show matches, and very occasionally help out his "friends" to put them over (JYD, Hillbilly Jim).
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The In-Crowd
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Post by The In-Crowd on Dec 13, 2007 19:00:00 GMT -5
Yeah, the champ and other major draws would not appear on free television at the time. That practice died in 1998. Heck, I remember seeing a Stone Cold v. Goldust match in late 97 and being shocked about it. It also makes sure that the champ wouldn't get hurt as much, because he didn't wrestle as much. Of course, my question is, how did anyone even know who the champ was under those circumstances? 1996 Shawn was on almost every Raw as Champ so i have no idea what ur talking about
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Dec 14, 2007 0:42:25 GMT -5
Yeah, the champ and other major draws would not appear on free television at the time. That practice died in 1998. Heck, I remember seeing a Stone Cold v. Goldust match in late 97 and being shocked about it. It also makes sure that the champ wouldn't get hurt as much, because he didn't wrestle as much. Of course, my question is, how did anyone even know who the champ was under those circumstances? 1996 Shawn was on almost every Raw as Champ so i have no idea what ur talking about Shawn was the change in the WWF's attitude towards RAW. After Shawn won the title at WM12, they made Raw more of the focus point of the company. Superstars became the jobber show that most places didn't even carry anymore and house shows were second towards TV. This is when the WWF went from a live event promotion to more of a TV promotion to compete with WCW. WCW didn't have house shows to try and sell at the time, so their main focus was on getting ratings for TV and getting money from sponsors. However, Shawn hardly wrestled on Raw outside of a couple one off matches or non-titles. Most of the big matches on Raw during that time frame were to decide who would face Shawn, and Shawn's involvement in the show was trying to help the lesser of the opponents win for his benefit.
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 14, 2007 0:55:23 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, wasn't Superstars still the flagship show for the WWF at this time? I know for years their syndicated programming was their bread and butter. yeah bret wrestled A LOT on superstars
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