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Post by saggyboyflair on Dec 13, 2007 14:08:17 GMT -5
THe guy seems so full of himself. Do u think he seems a little overbearing at times? I mean he was a bump machine and did some crazy stuff that other wrestler wouldnt do if they were high. But he wasnt a great wrestler BY ANY MEANS! Personally, I never thought it took a great wrestler to jump off the top of a cage onto a table, or set himself on fire. I always thought it just took some crazy fool to do that.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Dec 13, 2007 14:09:14 GMT -5
I think to some extent, all wrestlers are marks for themselves.
Everyone wants to be at least somewhat successful, don't they?
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Dec 13, 2007 14:09:23 GMT -5
I know he marks for himself sure, but he has earned his accolades whether people approve of his tactics or not.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 13, 2007 14:09:27 GMT -5
THe guy seems so full of himself. Do u think he seems a little overbearing at times? I mean he was a bump machine and did some crazy stuff but he wasnt a great wrestler BY ANY MEANS! it's just joking around, like Shawn Michaels self-depricates all over himself all the time. he said in his book that he likes calling himself stuff like "hardcore legend" cause he thinks it's funny.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 13, 2007 14:09:49 GMT -5
I don't think he ever claimed to be a great wrestler to my knowledge.
Seems alright to me, great bump machine and had some charisma to boot.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 13, 2007 14:13:34 GMT -5
I don't think he ever claimed to be a great wrestler to my knowledge. Seems alright to me, great bump machine and had some charisma to boot. He doesn't. He pretty much says that his greatest asset in wrestling wasn't his "thimble-full of althletic skill", it was the fact that he could take the bumps he did.
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Post by saggyboyflair on Dec 13, 2007 14:13:49 GMT -5
Well Bret and Shawn I can see, since they could go out there every single night and have the best match of the night with some guy limited in the ring. Bret I thought had better matches with pirates, dentists, hakushi, then Foley could with taker or the rock and without having to resort to these hotshotting tactics just to get a pop of the crowd.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 13, 2007 14:22:25 GMT -5
Well Bret and Shawn I can see, since they could go out there every single night and have the best match of the night with some guy limited in the ring. Bret I thought had better matches with pirates, dentists, hakushi, then Foley could with taker or the rock and without having to resort to these hotshotting tactics just to get a pop of the crowd. You put Hakushi in there as if he were some stiff that couldn't wrestle in the ring. He was pretty good actually.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Dec 13, 2007 14:35:11 GMT -5
Well Bret and Shawn I can see, since they could go out there every single night and have the best match of the night with some guy limited in the ring. Bret I thought had better matches with pirates, dentists, hakushi, then Foley could with taker or the rock and without having to resort to these hotshotting tactics just to get a pop of the crowd. You put Hakushi in there as if he were some stiff that couldn't wrestle in the ring. He was pretty good actually. same can be said for Glen Jacobs and, to a lesser extent, Carl Oulette. Neither is what I would call a working machine, but neither was completely clueless, either.
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Post by ilggant on Dec 13, 2007 14:35:23 GMT -5
Well Bret and Shawn I can see, since they could go out there every single night and have the best match of the night with some guy limited in the ring. Bret I thought had better matches with pirates, dentists, hakushi, then Foley could with taker or the rock and without having to resort to these hotshotting tactics just to get a pop of the crowd. You put Hakushi in there as if he were some stiff that couldn't wrestle in the ring. He was pretty good actually. so were the pirate and the dentist. logic lesson : bad gimmick does not = bad wrestler
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Post by Tapout on Dec 13, 2007 14:51:02 GMT -5
Foley has always seemed pretty humble. If he were such a huge mark for himself, he probably wouldn't have had his own son call him "stinky" on air (or on the weird cellphone broadcast thingy) from this week's Raw.
The two biggest marks for themselves in my experience, at least in WWF/E, are Bret and RVD.
If you have the Eddy WWE DVD around the time he picked up the title, one of the extras is Eddy's match with RVD just after he came back from the car accident and his stint in ROH. Even though the whole friggin' DVD is about Eddy, devoted to Eddy, who was the top man in the company at the time, RVD can't stop talking about his own awesomeness for even a second.
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Post by Heart of Markness on Dec 13, 2007 19:33:21 GMT -5
Foley was a pretty good worker, I thought. He wasn't nearly on the same level as Shawn and Bret, but he could always bring out the best in his opponents no matter how inexperienced they were (his feuds with Randy Orton and Corporate Champion-era Rock come to mind) while getting in some cool spots of his own.
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