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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 13, 2007 12:05:01 GMT -5
I'm not buying into this whole "Since everyone likes Cena. then you should to" argument, or the "Hating him is so old, ur all haterz" crap. If I don't like the guy, I don't like the guy. Cena tries hard, and I will give him all the credit in the world for that. But he's not my type of wrestler, and booking him like he was Jesus in baggy shorts doesn't help matters. Even when he was showing signs that he wasn't invulnerable, they still booked him to eventually overcome the odds and be the champ.
I dislike Cena because he's not entertaining to me. I'm not an 8-year old, and I'm not a woman. If that makes me a bad person, then you can call me a bad person, I don't give a shit anymore.
I'll keep my underdog Dreamers and Richards of the world, thank you very much.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 13, 2007 12:07:44 GMT -5
I'm not buying into this whole "Since everyone likes Cena. then you should to" argument, or the "Hating him is so old, ur all haterz" crap. If I don't like the guy, I don't like the guy. Cena tries hard, and I will give him all the credit in the world for that. But he's not my type of wrestler, and booking him like he was Jesus in baggy shorts doesn't help matters. Even when he was showing signs that he wasn't invulnerable, they still booked him to eventually overcome the odds and be the champ. I dislike Cena because he's not entertaining to me. I'm not an 8-year old, and I'm not a woman. If that makes me a bad person, then you can call me a bad person, I don't give a crap anymore. I'll keep my underdog Dreamers and Richards of the world, thank you very much. That's fine if you dislike him for not being entertaining, it's that when people start going on the whole tangent about his workrate sucks and creating hate threads for the guy as if we know him personally. You're not a bad person for disliking him in the regard of not being entertaining, it's when people start taking it to a next level where they are wishing harm upon a wrestler when he's just doing his job.
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Post by Bocuma on Dec 13, 2007 12:12:24 GMT -5
You guys know Godwin's Law? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." It is often found as a way of losing the argument altogether. I say we institute a Benoit law.
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Post by joeman on Dec 13, 2007 12:14:15 GMT -5
Cena's bad workrate is worse than a well respected wrestler killing his wife and AN EIGHT YEAR OLD KID. EXCUSE ME, pal, none of the Cena-bashers here said that the things we don't like about Cena are worse than what Benoit did. The Cena defenders here like you asked if that was what we thought, then simply decided we did and ran with it. Don't put words in people's mouths. John Cena will be greater once his career is over. Fixed. I'll like him much better after his career is over and he's off my TV, yes. I referring to petty posts like these. Seriously, all because you don't like him does not mean he should be off tube. With that said, there are people that wants Benoit to be in the Hall of Fame, and are constantly complaining about why Benoit is not on WWE.com(despite being on there). I am getting the perception that people would rather see a murderer rather than a person they don't know but hate him because of his workrate. Not saying your one of them that wants to see Benoit in the Hall of Fame or anything, but I am referring to this in general.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 13, 2007 12:16:32 GMT -5
You guys know Godwin's Law? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." It is often found as a way of losing the argument altogether. I say we institute a Benoit law. I dunno, there are double standards online as well. If Trips pins someone in under 2 minutes...OMG BERRIED!!11 If RVD or a internet favorite pins someone in under 2 minutes...FTW ROXXORZ!11
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Post by Bocuma on Dec 13, 2007 12:18:00 GMT -5
You guys know Godwin's Law? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." It is often found as a way of losing the argument altogether. I say we institute a Benoit law. I dunno, there are double standards online as well. If Trips pins someone in under 2 minutes...OMG BERRIED!!11 If RVD or a internet favorite pins someone in under 2 minutes...FTW ROXXORZ!11 True, I just think that if you have to compare someone to Benoit (in the manner of the killings, anyway) in order to get your point across, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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Post by Just Jay on Dec 13, 2007 12:32:59 GMT -5
This can't end well.
I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to institute a Benoit Law. Kind of like the politics/religion ban on here. If the name Benoit is used in a heated debate, I think it should be locked. That'd save a lot of ache don't you think?
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 13, 2007 12:34:16 GMT -5
You guys know Godwin's Law? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." It is often found as a way of losing the argument altogether. I say we institute a Benoit law. Godwin's Law sounds highly impalusible. Everyone knows that there is no law on the internets.
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Post by Lionheart on Dec 13, 2007 12:58:33 GMT -5
I referring to petty posts like these. Seriously, all because you don't like him does not mean he should be off tube. Me not liking him doesn't mean he should or shouldn't be off TV any more than someone else loving him means he should or shouldn't be ON TV. I'm not talking about whether he's good for the business or anything, I'm only expressing me personal opinion on him as an entertainer, which is that unless his character is extensively made over, I'd prefer to never see him on my TV again. Look at how ridiculous your argument is; just apply it to any other type of actor or performer. "You may think (insert actor's name here) is a terrible actor on (insert TV show here) and their character is boring, but he/she really enjoys playing the part, and if they got taken off the show they'd be OUT ON THE STREET!!! How can you be so HEARTLESS???" Wrestling is an ENTERTAINMENT business. It's supposed to entertain me, the audience. Cena does not entertain me. If he entertains others, good for them, but that has no bearing on my opinions. I enjoy WWE's ENTERTAINMENT product more without Cena. I don't take pleasure in him getting hurt and I wouldn't take pleasure in him getting released except in the fact the consequence would be WWE would be more enjoyable to me; it's not personal. What am I supposed to do, pretend I like him out of charity?
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 13, 2007 17:19:12 GMT -5
Lol, you "anti-smarks" kill me.
I haven't seen any instances here of people saying things like they wish death or a career ending injury on the guy. People are merely stating their opinion on the guys attempts to be funny, which I gotta agree with, because he fails miserably.
JUST MY OPINION PLEASE DON'T CRY ABOUT IT.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 13, 2007 17:22:24 GMT -5
Lol, you "anti-smarks" kill me. I haven't seen any instances here of people saying things like they wish death or a career ending injury on the guy. People are merely stating their opinion on the guys attempts to be funny, which I gotta agree with, because he fails miserably. JUST MY OPINION PLEASE DON'T CRY ABOUT IT. I'll try to hold back the tears,lol. But I don't think it's really in this thread, it seems to have calmed down quite a bit, but I was here in late 2005 when Cena was being pushed hard on Raw and there were several hate threads surfacing every other day and in some of them I did see people wishing harm upon the guy, which led to having WarriorThug4Cena run interference and we've had him around since.
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Post by vinnie245 on Dec 13, 2007 18:23:49 GMT -5
He used to be funny when he had his raps back in 2003 but as soon as he became "The Marine" or a face for that matter,his jokes are just lame as hell
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Dec 13, 2007 23:59:35 GMT -5
Cena was funny as the goofy whiteboy heel who thought he was a rapper, but the writers decided to take that and turn him into someone we're supposed to take seriously. Yep, and when he gets back, it'll be more of these same "comedic" travesties every week.
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Post by laotioncommotion on Dec 14, 2007 0:06:58 GMT -5
Ugh, that actually made me like Cena less. I'm not really a Cena hater, I just don't dig him. He's just really uninteresting to me, and this video is, in fact, a great example of everything I don't like about him. He's just bland, and I'm not really a fan of calling somebody gay to insult them.
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Post by tomservo23 on Dec 14, 2007 0:14:37 GMT -5
Good lord, how many balls/nuts/dick jokes can one man come up with? I don't know, I haven't seen the Rock lately. John Cena is the Rock with 25% less charisma, so he's hated for it while the Rock skates by relatively unscathed. I do think that Cena would be better if everything he said wasn't scripted.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 14, 2007 0:33:15 GMT -5
so it's not cool for cena to make immature jokes. yet people on here love jericho. a guy who has made his fair share of boob, ho, slut, pop, etc jokes in his career
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 14, 2007 0:40:39 GMT -5
so it's not cool for cena to make immature jokes. yet people on here love jericho. a guy who has made his fair share of boob, ho, slut, pop, etc jokes in his career David St. Hubbins: It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2007 0:43:19 GMT -5
so it's not cool for cena to make immature jokes. yet people on here love jericho. a guy who has made his fair share of boob, ho, slut, pop, etc jokes in his career yeah but with Jericho it's funny as hell the way he says it... plus its to someone everyone hated Stephanie so it was all good
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 14, 2007 1:00:00 GMT -5
i'm not trashing jericho by any means either... i think they're both hilarious.l
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Post by Methusael86 on Dec 14, 2007 12:16:25 GMT -5
A lot of his moments as a heel were way funnier then this "funniest moments" video.
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