WWE Should Pipe In Cheers And Boos During RAW

[Hulk With A Mustache]

At least create the illusion that the crowd is going crazy for a wrestlers. Hell, maybe it will these crowds to start showing signs so WWE won't have to do this.

[wwerules60]

No but they should pipe in random Goldberg chants.

[Hulk With A Mustache]

wwerules60 said:

No but they should pipe in random Goldberg chants.

Even better. *bows to you*

[Silent Brad]

wwerules60 said:

No but they should pipe in random Goldberg Gilberg chants.

fixed

[GuyOfOwnage]

WWE typically pipes in stuff for the taped shows, as opposed to the live stuff (aka Raw and PPVs, or ECW, if that even runs live anymore). The main reason for this is because what you perceive to be "piped in" is actually just dubbed, and obviously you can't pull that off with a live program.

[Cibernético II]

NO!

[default]

Only in blatantly obvious segments for comedy ala Gillberg.

I'd love to see someone like Santino use crowd piping sometime... just to piss off the marks.

[The Booty Disciple]

guyofownage said:

WWE typically pipes in stuff for the taped shows, as opposed to the live stuff (aka Raw and PPVs, or ECW, if that even runs live anymore). The main reason for this is because what you perceive to be "piped in" is actually just dubbed, and obviously you can't pull that off with a live program.

Generally speaking, it's not even piped in. It's done similar to any other TV program...they fiddle with it in editing and just boost the amount of crowd noise when its appropriate for their purpose, rather than overdubbing extra noise. Similarly, sitcoms do the same thing. It allows all the shows to say their getting the live audience, regardless of how they embellish said audience.

Hell, I'm sure they do the same thing on RAW by boosting certain mics or frequencies in the audio feed to make it louder/softer at certain points. Given that there are moments during a live broadcast (any of them) when the volume of the crowd suddenly and audibly rises without any other increase in crowd interaction (those ones that sound like they bumped the mic, for instance), I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing, which probably isn't exactly an uncommon thing in other TV ventures either.

[Jay Peas 42]

Can they edit out the "What?" chant?

[twiggy101]

I don't believe that piping in cheers and books is very professional.

[bubbles]

Santino should use canned laughter for his segments that act all modest and say oh athank ayou you are all aso kind

[GuyOfOwnage]

austin4wyo said:

Generally speaking, it's not even piped in. It's done similar to any other TV program...they fiddle with it in editing and just boost the amount of crowd noise when its appropriate for their purpose, rather than overdubbing extra noise. Similarly, sitcoms do the same thing. It allows all the shows to say their getting the live audience, regardless of how they embellish said audience.

Hell, I'm sure they do the same thing on RAW by boosting certain mics or frequencies in the audio feed to make it louder/softer at certain points. Given that there are moments during a live broadcast (any of them) when the volume of the crowd suddenly and audibly rises without any other increase in crowd interaction (those ones that sound like they bumped the mic, for instance), I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing, which probably isn't exactly an uncommon thing in other TV ventures either.

I wouldn't doubt the fiddling with the live broadcasts, but Smackdown's been overdubbed for years. I've heard literally identical crowd "cheers" and "boos" dubbed into those broadcasts since around 2000. And yes, they are exactly the same. I can produce tapes from '00-'01 as well as recordings of recent shows, where you can hear the *exact* same cheers and boos. It's become pretty redundant. While I don't doubt that there's some fiddling with the noise levels, to think that there isn't some dubbing going on during the taped programs would be naive.

[lildude8218]

guyofownage said:

austin4wyo said:

Generally speaking, it's not even piped in. It's done similar to any other TV program...they fiddle with it in editing and just boost the amount of crowd noise when its appropriate for their purpose, rather than overdubbing extra noise. Similarly, sitcoms do the same thing. It allows all the shows to say their getting the live audience, regardless of how they embellish said audience.

Hell, I'm sure they do the same thing on RAW by boosting certain mics or frequencies in the audio feed to make it louder/softer at certain points. Given that there are moments during a live broadcast (any of them) when the volume of the crowd suddenly and audibly rises without any other increase in crowd interaction (those ones that sound like they bumped the mic, for instance), I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing, which probably isn't exactly an uncommon thing in other TV ventures either.

I wouldn't doubt the fiddling with the live broadcasts, but Smackdown's been overdubbed for years. I've heard literally identical crowd "cheers" and "boos" dubbed into those broadcasts since around 2000. And yes, they are exactly the same. I can produce tapes from '00-'01 as well as recordings of recent shows, where you can hear the *exact* same cheers and boos. It's become pretty redundant. While I don't doubt that there's some fiddling with the noise levels, to think that there isn't some dubbing going on during the taped programs would be naive.

Since large crowds cheering and booing sounds so much different each time and all.

[CJ Denton is Egon]

the one time I thought the "sweeting" was really clear was durring the Lashlly/Vince Fued.

[seano]

bubbles said:

Santino should use canned laughter for his segments that act all modest and say oh athank ayou you are all aso kind

They really do need to do this, you know. It'd be fantastic.

[GuyOfOwnage]

lildude8218 said:

Since large crowds cheering and booing sounds so much different each time and all.

Yeah, I know it's far fetched. But it certainly isn't my hearing. The "canned" (for lack of a better term) crowd recordings have been used in varying degrees for the taped shows for years. And when I say exactly the same, that's pretty much what I mean. I know live crowds hardly sound any different, but can you excuse the exact same cheers and boos, with absolutely no variation? At the very least, it would audibly vary from crowd to crowd, like an episode of Raw or a PPV.

[lildude8218]

guyofownage said:

lildude8218 said:

Since large crowds cheering and booing sounds so much different each time and all.

Yeah, I know it's far fetched. But it certainly isn't my hearing. The "canned" (for lack of a better term) crowd recordings have been used in varying degrees for the taped shows for years. And when I say exactly the same, that's pretty much what I mean. I know live crowds hardly sound any different, but can you excuse the exact same cheers and boos, with absolutely no variation? At the very least, it would audibly vary from crowd to crowd, like an episode of Raw or a PPV.

If you say that live crowds hardly sound any different then you're already admitting that the same sounds are possible. I think we're done here.

[GuyOfOwnage]

lildude8218 said:

guyofownage said:

Yeah, I know it's far fetched. But it certainly isn't my hearing. The "canned" (for lack of a better term) crowd recordings have been used in varying degrees for the taped shows for years. And when I say exactly the same, that's pretty much what I mean. I know live crowds hardly sound any different, but can you excuse the exact same cheers and boos, with absolutely no variation? At the very least, it would audibly vary from crowd to crowd, like an episode of Raw or a PPV.

If you say that live crowds hardly sound any different then you're already admitting that the same sounds are possible. I think we're done here.

If it was actually worth my time and effort, I'd post up side-by-side comparisons, but believe what you want to believe.

[thegame415]

Believe it or not, they used too....in the real late 90's before smackdown started, Raw was live one week and taped the next...the taped shows always had piped cheers and boos

Heres an example...

youtube.com/watch?v=Nk9jCUCBnRU

[Dick Foley]

You can only "pipe in" audience reactions in a live enviorment when the audience is silent. I attended a RAW in 1999 and when the audience pops or chants you cannot hear the audio from the PA. Our crowd chanted "asshole" so loud that I never heard anything Vince said.