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Post by primetime110 on Dec 17, 2007 4:06:27 GMT -5
So who has had the more lackluster title run. Orton or Punk? It seems Orton gets on a roll and gets very good heat, Then he wins the World Title and seems to put it in cruise control. Instead of taking his game to the next level while champ.
Punk, Being the ECW champ doesn't really do alot. Nothing much to work with. With the Kelly and Balls angle, BDV and kane feud, Morrison and Miz Smackdown tag champs sometimes I forget ECW has a world champ. He looks to be heading into a feud with Mark Henrey and hopefully Mark takes the title. IMO there is nothing that stands out about Punk that makes me want to see him wrestle.
Both seem to be weak champions. If one can step it up to me it would be Orton. I believe Punks title run can't be saved.
Could be worse, They could have had the same Title run Rey had.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Dec 17, 2007 4:08:57 GMT -5
Punk is reminding me of Warrior. Incredible crowd support leading to a title win, and almost nothing thereafter.
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Post by Tyfo on Dec 17, 2007 4:17:27 GMT -5
There is something that can save Punk's title run.
His name is Shelton Benjamin.
If Punk feuds with Henry or Big Daddy V, then your headed into a heaping load of fail.
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Post by Hensley on Dec 17, 2007 4:32:19 GMT -5
Punk/Benjamin = GOLD!
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Post by bindergang on Dec 17, 2007 4:33:23 GMT -5
Punk is reminding me of Warrior. Incredible crowd support leading to a title win, and almost nothing thereafter. With all do respect to CM Punk...his title win was bullshit and I'm sure many know it. He's supposed to have an amazing match with Benoit for the title, instead faces Morrison (who wasn't even a contender) and loses. Than, he loses two consecutive matches to Morrison, wins one giving him another shot, and than loses that third shot at Summerslam. Finally, CM Punk wins the title after John Morrison gets suspended for drugs, which not only the wrestling world knew about, but was also news in mainstream media. So yes, Punk's been hurting for awhile now. They also make him out to be a weak champ who "just gets by" whenever he defends the title. |
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Dec 17, 2007 13:12:46 GMT -5
Punk is reminding me of Warrior. Incredible crowd support leading to a title win, and almost nothing thereafter. Did he even get the type of reaction Warrior got though? |
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Post by Miz-Wannabe on Dec 17, 2007 13:14:17 GMT -5
There is something that can save Punk's title run. His name is Shelton Benjamin. If Punk feuds with Henry or Big Daddy V, then your headed into a heaping load of fail. It can be argued that Punk's "lackluster" is due to him not having talented opponents. |
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Dec 17, 2007 13:16:01 GMT -5
There is something that can save Punk's title run. His name is Shelton Benjamin. If Punk feuds with Henry or Big Daddy V, then your headed into a heaping load of fail. It can be argued that Punk's "lackluster" is due to him not having talented opponents. Or he's not necessarily the greatest wrestler in the world despite what the IWC would have you believe. Or he's much better suited as a heel. |
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Post by Tapout on Dec 17, 2007 13:17:27 GMT -5
Punk, but I don't think it's entirely the guy's fault. Take a look at the ECW roster and see how little he has to work with. Orton, on the other hand, has feuded with Trips and HBK, who are probably the 2 top stars in the company at this time (except possibly Undertaker).
One of the most exciting feuds he's had recently was with Blue Show jobber and comedy heel Jamie Noble. Not to take anything away from Noble (who is a fantastic worker), but the guy was been booked to be a weakling and a chump who got pinned repeatedly by a midget.
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Post by Miz-Wannabe on Dec 17, 2007 13:17:47 GMT -5
It can be argued that Punk's "lackluster" is due to him not having talented opponents. Or he's not necessarily the greatest wrestler in the world despite what the IWC would have you believe. Or he's much better suited as a heel. I dont know seems people say he can do amazing things in the ring but he hasnt. Is WWE holding his in ring talent down? For example I want to see the Anaconda Vice... He should be like Jericho and use many finishers. |
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Post by bshadye413 on Dec 17, 2007 14:54:45 GMT -5
Punk easily, although i wouldnt even say its because of him
ECW used to be the 1 wrestling show i wouldnt miss. Then all of a sudden they bring in the Smackdown guys and have constant main events with guys like BDV, Kane, Henry, and Batista. Since they started doing that i've really tuned out the show because i'd rather see the younger guys. ECW should be all about the good young wrestlers they have, like Punk, Morrison, Burke, Miz, etc.
But i look at Armageddon as a good example of how far the ECW title has sunk. The ECW champion is in the opening tag team match? Sorry but i couldnt care less about guys like Big Daddy V, Kane, and Henry.
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Post by skiller on Dec 17, 2007 17:27:46 GMT -5
To be fair you can't really compare the WWE and ECW titles together. The ECW belt is more on the level of the US and Intercontinental titles.
As for the poll, at least I can remember that Punk's the champion.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 17, 2007 23:10:08 GMT -5
Punk primarily for the fact they've put him against Big Daddy V and the like for months. Hard to give a shit about those kind of feuds.
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Post by primetime110 on Dec 17, 2007 23:24:05 GMT -5
To be fair you can't really compare the WWE and ECW titles together. The ECW belt is more on the level of the US and Intercontinental titles. As for the poll, at least I can remember that Punk's the champion. Punk fans maybe better off forgetting this title run. |
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Post by King Fox -1017 Bricksquad on Dec 17, 2007 23:36:22 GMT -5
Punk. Can't blame it on him though. There's only so many times they can promote Punk/Morrison without it getting old.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 17, 2007 23:53:12 GMT -5
at least CM Punk wins his matches. Orton has been as bad as Abyss when he held the TNA title.
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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Dec 17, 2007 23:59:00 GMT -5
Punk's. It's just...meh. I just don't care. He does better as a hunter than the hunted.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 18, 2007 0:00:15 GMT -5
When those that are hunting you look like they're more comfortable on safari for a Grand Slam Breakfast, that hurts.
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 18, 2007 0:19:48 GMT -5
Punk's, but mainly because of the complete lack of credible opponents he's had. The closest he had to real competition was that triple threat match he had with Miz and John Morrison, and now they're Smackdown's tag champs. That leaves him Big Daddy V. Whoo.
I think it's time for Punk to drop the title and move on to the greener pastures of RAW or SmackDown. Maybe they can turn him heel to spice him up.
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Post by ghettooverlord on Dec 18, 2007 0:22:48 GMT -5
It would really be fitting if Morrison/Punk XXIV was at Wrestlemania 24.
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