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Post by chunkylover53 on Dec 18, 2007 13:31:50 GMT -5
Does anybody besides me want him to win the WWE championship WHILE holding the IC title? That feat has only been done once by the Ultimate Warrior, and that was 18 years ago.
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Post by erik316wttn on Dec 18, 2007 13:34:42 GMT -5
Does anybody besides me want him to win the WWE championship WHILE holding the IC title? That feat has only been done once by the Ultimate Warrior, and that was 18 years ago. Build him up a little more and that would be awesome. He could then drop his IC title. I'd love to see a tournament held for it with the finals being held at a PPV. If I could fix just one thing about WWE right now, it would be how they treat the IC title.
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Post by Kae on Dec 18, 2007 14:02:36 GMT -5
Yeah. Anytime a superstar gets to pin HHH AND Orton, he's pretty much in the main event. I'm glad for Jeff too. He's talented and he's over. Hopefully, Matt will do the same on Smackdown when he returns.
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Post by Kae on Dec 18, 2007 14:04:47 GMT -5
Triple H actually DID put Hardy over big time in that match. The only thing I didn't like was him smiling immediately afterwards. It seemed pretty stupid, almost like breaking kayfabe. I know it wasn't, but it does not fit his on-screen role. He should have acted pissed like Razor Ramon when Waltman beat him for the first time, come out on RAW, seemingly to attack Hardy with a Sledgehammer but then decide to not do it and congratulate him. You know, I thought that was in character for Triple H. He'd basically bitchslapped Jeff so that he would fight him, and then he ended up getting beat by him. It was a "Well, damn. Who could have guessed that?" smile.
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Post by x on Dec 18, 2007 17:35:24 GMT -5
Didn't Hardcore Holly once wrestle for the WWE title at the Royal Rumble? Normally title contenders at the Rumble are just filler because they don't need a huge title match to sell the Rumble. They usually don't see the main event again.
I can even date this theory back to 93 with Heel Razor Ramon. Or even Orton in 05. Mark Henry in 06. There's no chance he wins the belt and an equal chance that he sees the main event past No Way Out.
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Post by rra on Dec 18, 2007 17:37:20 GMT -5
Oh, Matt Hardy is DEFINATELY on his way to the main event stage with his feud with MVP, the best WWE program of 2007.
I mean, SD! is pushing Hardy weekly as the sole guy that could take the US strap away from the hands of the heel MVP, and whenever that PPV happens....Wrestlemania 24?...........
The place will explode.
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Post by Munkie91087 on Dec 18, 2007 17:38:09 GMT -5
Didn't Hardcore Holly once wrestle for the WWE title at the Royal Rumble? Normally title contenders at the Rumble are just filler because they don't need a huge title match to sell the Rumble. They usually don't see the main event again. I can even date this theory back to 93 with Heel Razor Ramon. Or even Orton in 05. Mark Henry in 06. There's no chance he wins the belt and an equal chance that he sees the main event past No Way Out. Rock-Foley had a big time WWF title match at the Rumble, as did Triple H and Foley. So it is possible for big time WWE/F title matches at the Rumble.
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Post by rubber johnny on Dec 18, 2007 17:45:05 GMT -5
he'll mess it up
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Post by rra on Dec 18, 2007 17:45:45 GMT -5
The real question is, if he does, will he screw up as badly as Kennedy? OHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Post by rubber johnny on Dec 18, 2007 17:47:07 GMT -5
The real question is, if he does, will he screw up as badly as Kennedy? OHHHHHHHHHHHH! kennedy didn't really mess up, he's just generally a very stupid man
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Post by rra on Dec 18, 2007 17:50:36 GMT -5
The real question is, if he does, will he screw up as badly as Kennedy? OHHHHHHHHHHHH! kennedy didn't really mess up, he's just generally a very stupid man What's the difference? Besides, Kennedy reportedly booked for MAIN EVENT of Wrestlemania 24 until his roids blow that up in smoke, and he's practically a jobber to the stars: HBK, Trips, Hardy, you name it. Jeff Hardy has done some stupid shit, we all agree right? Well, since his return he has not screwed up, put on good matches on a weekly basis, and you know what? He's been the first good IC champion we've had in some time. Maybe he could be booked to defend the strap some more, but otherwise....he's on the right path. Same with Matt.
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Post by MiLo Duck on Dec 18, 2007 18:55:06 GMT -5
Its not like HHH hasn't put Jeff over before. I remember him taking the IC belt off Trips during the time when he and Stone Cold were Tag Champs/ WWE and IC champs. Things seemed to be going in a similar direction, and then Jeff lost his smile or whatever.
This time I honestly think they are looking for another face Main Event option in Cena's abscence. I just hope he doesn't end up like RVD.
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Post by Loki on Dec 18, 2007 19:05:03 GMT -5
kennedy didn't really mess up, he's just generally a very stupid man What's the difference? I guess Jeff harmed just himself by indulging on some substance, while Kennedy harmed himself and the company he works for by blabbing incoherently about steroids on TV. Well, Kennedy main eventing WM24 was just another speculation of Newz Sitez and/or fantasy booking of our own. Pretty much like the fabled Orton-Cena, that should have been the main event of WM 22,23 and 24 ;D Agreed 100% about Jeff, I'm still unconvinced about Matt. But I was a Jeff-doubter so I may as well change my mind on his brother too.
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Post by rra on Dec 18, 2007 19:54:38 GMT -5
Its why I posted "reportedly booked" regarding Kennedy. Whatever its true or not, we'll find out in a few years.
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Post by x on Dec 18, 2007 20:40:09 GMT -5
Didn't Hardcore Holly once wrestle for the WWE title at the Royal Rumble? Normally title contenders at the Rumble are just filler because they don't need a huge title match to sell the Rumble. They usually don't see the main event again. I can even date this theory back to 93 with Heel Razor Ramon. Or even Orton in 05. Mark Henry in 06. There's no chance he wins the belt and an equal chance that he sees the main event past No Way Out. Rock-Foley had a big time WWF title match at the Rumble, as did Triple H and Foley. So it is possible for big time WWE/F title matches at the Rumble. But those are two matches out of 15. And Royal Rumble 99 doesn't really count, the Royal Rumble winner didn't main event Mania so the whole Rumble to Mania timeframe was completley different. But the attitude era was a time where the things that happened were out of the ordinary. What has happened out of the ordinary in the WWE since 2002? It's always been the same formula. Why would it be any different with Jeff Hardy?
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Post by Munkie91087 on Dec 18, 2007 20:57:36 GMT -5
Rock-Foley had a big time WWF title match at the Rumble, as did Triple H and Foley. So it is possible for big time WWE/F title matches at the Rumble. But those are two matches out of 15. And Royal Rumble 99 doesn't really count, the Royal Rumble winner didn't main event Mania so the whole Rumble to Mania timeframe was completley different. But the attitude era was a time where the things that happened were out of the ordinary. What has happened out of the ordinary in the WWE since 2002? It's always been the same formula. Why would it be any different with Jeff Hardy? I don't think it will be different, but there have been big time title matches at the Rumble. I don't think Jeff Hardy is going to win, but this in my opinion will be an important match in the long term. How Hardy does "main eventing" a big time PPV will determine what he does in the future.
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Post by algertman on Dec 18, 2007 21:49:03 GMT -5
No, Hardy was already there
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 18, 2007 21:52:32 GMT -5
But those are two matches out of 15. And Royal Rumble 99 doesn't really count, the Royal Rumble winner didn't main event Mania so the whole Rumble to Mania timeframe was completley different. But the attitude era was a time where the things that happened were out of the ordinary. What has happened out of the ordinary in the WWE since 2002? It's always been the same formula. Why would it be any different with Jeff Hardy? I don't think it will be different, but there have been big time title matches at the Rumble. I don't think Jeff Hardy is going to win, but this in my opinion will be an important match in the long term. How Hardy does "main eventing" a big time PPV will determine what he does in the future. I don't see it being the last match on the show as Orton/Hardy isn't as important as the Rumble or dare I say even the SD main event with Edge and possibly Taker or Batista. It'll probably be a good showing by Hardy, but he'll come up short. Though out of the two I'd rather see him as champ than Orton.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 18, 2007 22:05:16 GMT -5
I hate to rain on the parade, but damn, how I wish this was the OTHER Hardy getting this push. In due time. His injury being pretty much the only thing that kept that from happening. When is Matt due back? Depending on how the crowd reacts to his return, I could honestly see Matt as US champ challenging Edge for the WHC at WM. Imagine how awesome it would be to see both Matt and Jeff holding titles up high at the end of WM.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2007 23:55:04 GMT -5
im afriad that Jeff becoming champion too soon will kill off his support... and a clean loss will hurt his credibility and momentum... WWE is walking a very thin line with him... i really hope it works out
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