Should WWE be held accountable for Benoit's action

[Chris the Bambikiller]

Tough call, I'd say WWE is not responsible, but yeah, they should be sued, lose and pay. Why?

Yes, they have the wellness policy, and they pay for worker's rehab. And that's great, Kudos to them. But that's only treating the symptoms, not the cause of the illness. The guys still are constantly traveling, away from their familles, under a lot of stress. It would be better if WWE changed what CAUSES people to take drugs or get depressed. And losing a lot of money is what makes big corporations change their way of thinking in the end, so I hope they have to pay a few millions, and then don't fire a lot of talent to save money but instead sit down on their asses and think about whether a few weeks off over Christmas or a schedule with less traveling would really be that bad.

[Dr. Bunsen Honeydew]

tomservo23 said:

I have a question. How come WCW, or any of the past promotions Benoit ever worked in, are never criticized for the workload they put him through?

I do realize that I'm giving journalism in general too much credit to actually do three seconds of research, but why is WWE getting the brunt of criticism? I understand that they're the only ones in business anymore, but it just seems lazy to not ask those questions.

Becuase they are all out of business.

[Ijob2HHH]

The case will be thrown out pretty quickly on the simple fact that since they don't actually know anything about what caused him to kill his family, no one besides him can be held accountable.

The only way the WWE could have possibly, in the legal sense, been responsible is if the murders took place during a show at the arena or on WWE property. Benoit was at home on the weekend and it was the WWE that called the police to check up on him, so no, the wwe aren't accountable for anything. You can't hold your workplace accountable for your own stupid decisions and mistakes.

[derrtaysouth95]

I didn't realize that the WWE killed Chris, Nancy, and Daniel Benoit.

Totally must have missed that in all the media coverage.

OH WAIT! WWE didn't murder them....and therefore should not be held accountable.

[Deleted]

The bottom line is people choose to be a wrestler.

It's not like WWE adopts babies when they're born and puts them into wrestling concentration camps as children.

Adults decide that instead of going to college or getting a 9 to 5 job. They're going to try to make millions as a wrestler.

If they can't handle it or fail. It's their fault.

[Red Impact]

tomservo23 said:

I have a question. How come WCW, or any of the past promotions Benoit ever worked in, are never criticized for the workload they put him through?

I do realize that I'm giving journalism in general too much credit to actually do three seconds of research, but why is WWE getting the brunt of criticism? I understand that they're the only ones in business anymore, but it just seems lazy to not ask those questions.

yes, because journalists never do any research

WCW isn't being questioned because Benoit hadn't worked for them in 7 years. His WWE stretch was longer than his stretch with any other company and WWE's performers had a rather nasty tendency of not being all that healthy. It shouldnt' be surprising that they're being questioned about the health of their employees.

And really, it's not like the NFL is never questioned about it. They get questioned a lot, even moreso in recent years.

[Dynamite Kid]

Eminem made my kid kill himself.
Marilyn Manson caused Columbine.
Judas Priest made some kids enter a suicide pact.
Led Zeppelin made my kid worship the devil.
THE WWE MADE MY FAVOURITE WRESTLER A MURDERER.

[dh03grad]

dynamitekid said:

Eminem made my kid kill himself.
Marilyn Manson caused Columbine.
Judas Priest made some kids enter a suicide pact.
Led Zeppelin made my kid worship the devil.
THE WWE MADE MY FAVOURITE WRESTLER A MURDERER.

This thread has set a new record for bad analogies. My question is, why was Chris Benoit allowed to do flying headbutts from the top of steel cages in the first place? Surely, the WWE tested him for concussions once in the past 7 years right? If, as some of you say, he got all of the brain trauma prior to WWE, then one simple test would have shown such right? I personally dont believe that his head was tested at all between 2000-2007. He was allowed to do flying headbutts,german suplexes, suicide planchas as much as he liked to. WWE couldnt give a crap as long as he made it to the next show. I hope that Benoit's children do get the money. From Chris' estate and the WWE. You better believe that they deserve it. I see Vickie Guerrero got the rest of Eddie's contract plus continued money due to her weekly TV appearances. Eddie's children continues to get taken care of well as a result. What the smurf is the difference in this case? Yes, Chris Benoit ended up being a murderer but his children should be taken care of just like Guerrero's children are.

[HRH The KING]

I think they can take certain steps such as reducing schedules, routinely giving the wrestlers medical tests, and offering benefits etc...which may take some of the pressures off the wrestlers, but overall I think Benoit's problems were beyond WWE's control.

[T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens]

Legally, the WWE should not be held accountable. They should not be penalized in any way for what happened. However, it should have been somewhat of a wake-up call for them. They should at least attempt to make a change or two that will make life better for the wrestlers, as well as for the company in a public relations sense. But that has yet to happen. Anytime this company feels as though it is being attacked in any way, whether it is justifiable criticism or not, they are going to be defiant and they are going to fight. There is no convincing them, one way or the other. You say they're wrong, they'll say they're right. Whether they are or not. Just like a stubborn little kid. That's just bad business.

[tarheelfan]

bambikiller said:

Tough call, I'd say WWE is not responsible, but yeah, they should be sued, lose and pay. Why?

Yes, they have the wellness policy, and they pay for worker's rehab. And that's great, Kudos to them. But that's only treating the symptoms, not the cause of the illness. The guys still are constantly traveling, away from their familles, under a lot of stress. It would be better if WWE changed what CAUSES people to take drugs or get depressed. And losing a lot of money is what makes big corporations change their way of thinking in the end, so I hope they have to pay a few millions, and then don't fire a lot of talent to save money but instead sit down on their asses and think about whether a few weeks off over Christmas or a schedule with less traveling would really be that bad.

It is not like wrestling is the only job that causes people to be away from their families and under constant stress. Again I am not trying to sound cold hearted and unsympathetic but the reality is that a lot of these guys are making way more money than the average joe at the 9 to 5 job. And a lot of the 9 to 5 jobs that people have to deal with in the real world are stressful in their own ways. So I present the premise again that it is a tradeoff. In that in order to make more money and establish fame you have to put forth more effort-in this case a grueling schedule. Just the nature of the business and if a person can't take it than oh well than they should think about pursuing another career. Yes that is easier said than done but is quite frankly the bottom line reality and truth.

[tomservo23]

roybean said:

tomservo23 said:

I have a question. How come WCW, or any of the past promotions Benoit ever worked in, are never criticized for the workload they put him through?

I do realize that I'm giving journalism in general too much credit to actually do three seconds of research, but why is WWE getting the brunt of criticism? I understand that they're the only ones in business anymore, but it just seems lazy to not ask those questions.

Becuase they are all out of business.

That's my point though, it's only the big, bad WWE that put a gun to his head and made him continue to wrestle, when in actuality the damage may have already been done. Maybe it was inevitable despite anything the WWE could've done.

[tomservo23]

hawk405359 said:

tomservo23 said:

I have a question. How come WCW, or any of the past promotions Benoit ever worked in, are never criticized for the workload they put him through?

I do realize that I'm giving journalism in general too much credit to actually do three seconds of research, but why is WWE getting the brunt of criticism? I understand that they're the only ones in business anymore, but it just seems lazy to not ask those questions.

yes, because journalists never do any research

Yes, journalism is the last bastion of integrity in this world. Give me a break. The bad ones outnumber the good ones at least 10 to 1, if not higher, and this whole Benoit case just proves how much that profession has fallen in recent times.

[CrazySting]

roybean said:

tomservo23 said:

I have a question. How come WCW, or any of the past promotions Benoit ever worked in, are never criticized for the workload they put him through?

I do realize that I'm giving journalism in general too much credit to actually do three seconds of research, but why is WWE getting the brunt of criticism? I understand that they're the only ones in business anymore, but it just seems lazy to not ask those questions.

Becuase they are all out of business.

Also, trying to get money out of Heyman is pretty tough.

[longdogga]

while with the wwe chris benoit had about 2 years off out of 7 which equals out to 15 weeks off per year. plus the wwe isn't stupuid enough to send a (known) concussed wrestler out again tha would be stupid business practice. also flying headbutt doesnt actually hurt your head too much cause you either block the blow with you hand or lift your neck slighty so you only just hit the on the arm guts shoulder. mind you it completely f***s your chest up