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Post by Bobafett on Dec 23, 2007 15:28:14 GMT -5
whgen was this clause first used regularly?
cos (at least in the WWE ) it seems a fairly recent thing (though in most cases its used to repeat the same match from one ppv to the next )
its just I coulda see, oh say, Hogan using his clause to face Warrior for the title on a Saturdays Night main event or something after Wrestlemania 6
though if Hart had used a clause on the Raw after the screwjob (but that wouldn't have worked as Raw was still pre recorded then ) could you imagine the atomsphere?
also, when DID Raw beome a regular live show?
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Post by littlenaitch on Dec 23, 2007 16:21:08 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure when the rematch clause came into play regularly but it has been used a lot in the past. Now as far as Bret goes, Raw was a live show back then and I believe it became live in like the spring of 97 when it expanded to two hours.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 23, 2007 16:22:05 GMT -5
Raw was live in 97, but still they did do some taped shows though even at that time.
Maybe mid-98 or so.
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Post by molson5 on Dec 23, 2007 16:26:06 GMT -5
I definitely remember hearing references to it in mid-80s WWF, but it's emphasized now more than ever. I don't think you ever have a title change with that "clause" being put into effect.
What I wonder is, has anyone ever won back a title using a rematch clause?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 23, 2007 16:27:33 GMT -5
I definitely remember hearing references to it in mid-80s WWF, but it's emphasized now more than ever. I don't think you ever have a title change with that "clause" being put into effect. What I wonder is, has anyone ever won back a title using a rematch clause? Most recently in TNA, Kurt Angle did by defeating Sting a week after he lost the title to Sting at Bound For Glory. Can't remember the last time it happened in WWE though. |
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Post by littlenaitch on Dec 23, 2007 16:31:18 GMT -5
I definitely remember hearing references to it in mid-80s WWF, but it's emphasized now more than ever. I don't think you ever have a title change with that "clause" being put into effect. What I wonder is, has anyone ever won back a title using a rematch clause? This is a very good question as I don't have an answer to it. |
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Post by Godhand on Dec 23, 2007 16:41:54 GMT -5
I definitely remember hearing references to it in mid-80s WWF, but it's emphasized now more than ever. I don't think you ever have a title change with that "clause" being put into effect. What I wonder is, has anyone ever won back a title using a rematch clause? This is a very good question as I don't have an answer to it. Prolly HHH. He was the first person I remmebr ever enacting the "rematch clause" in 03 or 04. It is just a way to get someone a title shot without them having to earn it. Its a decent way to get a heel over but it doesnt quite work with a face. Its pretty much a wwe exclusive thing although Jarret used it to get a rematch with Rhino. Kinda adds weight to my theory.  |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 23, 2007 19:35:51 GMT -5
This is a very good question as I don't have an answer to it. Prolly HHH. He was the first person I remmebr ever enacting the "rematch clause" in 03 or 04. It is just a way to get someone a title shot without them having to earn it. Its a decent way to get a heel over but it doesnt quite work with a face. Its pretty much a wwe exclusive thing although Jarret used it to get a rematch with Rhino. Kinda adds weight to my theory. Nah Trips did not get the title back in his subsequent rematches with Benoit and Goldberg, but he did though with Shawn in 02. Austin did it as well in 2001 when he lost to Angle at Unforgiven and got it back 2 weeks later on Raw. |
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 23, 2007 19:40:13 GMT -5
Austin used it to win the title back from Kane the night after KOTR 98.
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Post by -Lithium- on Dec 23, 2007 19:46:39 GMT -5
Austin used it to win the title back from Kane the night after KOTR 98. He didnt invoke a clause or nothing, he just asked for a rematch and Kane said yes... |
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 23, 2007 19:52:18 GMT -5
Austin used it to win the title back from Kane the night after KOTR 98. He didnt invoke a clause or nothing, he just asked for a rematch and Kane said yes... No wonder Vince hated him so much. Damn bastard just made up his own rules. |
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Dec 23, 2007 20:32:25 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure when the rematch clause came into play regularly but it has been used a lot in the past. Now as far as Bret goes, Raw was a live show back then and I believe it became live in like the spring of 97 when it expanded to two hours. There's no way Raw was live from 97, two prominent examples of this are Rick Rude appearing on both shows in the same night after the screwjob and the 'that'll put butts in seats' incident. Maybe some of them were live, but obviously not all of them |
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Post by Topher is Human on Dec 23, 2007 20:41:30 GMT -5
I definitely remember hearing references to it in mid-80s WWF, but it's emphasized now more than ever. I don't think you ever have a title change with that "clause" being put into effect. What I wonder is, has anyone ever won back a title using a rematch clause? Most recently in TNA, Kurt Angle did by defeating Sting a week after he lost the title to Sting at Bound For Glory. Can't remember the last time it happened in WWE though. Well I know Edges first reign ended because Cena beat him after invoking the rematch clause. Juvi got the cruiserweight title back off of Nunzio via rematch clause. MNM beat Batista/Rey for the Tag Titles via rematch clause. Umaga's second IC title reign was after he beat Santino in a rematch... Has happened a bit in WWE, just mainly with the minor titles. Cena winning the belt back with his rematch is the only World title change via rematch since HHH/HBK in 02 as previously mentioned I believe. |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 23, 2007 20:54:16 GMT -5
The rematch clause is right next to the sanity clause.
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Post by KEJB on Dec 23, 2007 21:02:08 GMT -5
Wrestling is retarded sometimes.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Dec 23, 2007 21:02:30 GMT -5
The rematch clause is right next to the sanity clause. you can't foola me, there ain't no sanity clause marx brothers anyone? |
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Dec 23, 2007 21:04:00 GMT -5
 HO! HO! HO! I'm the Rematch Claus! Have you been a good boy Batista? You haven't? Well, can you at least get me some tail from that Melina girl? You can? Alright, rematches abound for you good sir! |
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Post by CJ Denton is Egon on Dec 23, 2007 21:05:32 GMT -5
HO! HO! HO! I'm the Rematch Claus! Have you been a good boy Batista? You haven't? Well, can you at least get me some tail from that Melina girl? You can? Alright, rematches abound for you good sir! Deep Fried GOLD |
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Dec 23, 2007 21:45:15 GMT -5
Has everyone gone insane? Rematch clauses are automatic in WWE and TNA. Every lost title ends up in a rematch, unless it is explicitly NOT used, like when JBL explained that he "made a deal" preventing Jericho from getting another title match.
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Post by Ass Dan on Dec 23, 2007 21:48:36 GMT -5
Recently, the rematch clause was used at No Mercy, when Orton used after losing the title earlier that night.
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