Nekron has risen aka Gamera...
Don Corleone
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Post by Nekron has risen aka Gamera... on Dec 20, 2007 20:32:31 GMT -5
watched two nights ago and cried... Mainly because of all the people who have passed on.. Damn it was a great fed. only UWF was better..
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 20, 2007 22:51:39 GMT -5
watched two nights ago and cried... Mainly because of all the people who have passed on.. Damn it was a great fed. only UWF was better.. I would love to see a UWF dvd. that Isn't likely though, but that is the one American promotion I know the least about.
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 20, 2007 23:24:08 GMT -5
watched two nights ago and cried... Mainly because of all the people who have passed on.. Damn it was a great fed. only UWF was better.. Yeah, the Heroes of World Class DVD is even sadder because they go beyond the deaths of the Von Erichs and Gino Hernandez and talk about the numerous early deaths of World Class talent, especiialy sad considering there were a couple of murders in the mix.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Dec 21, 2007 11:50:55 GMT -5
IIRC, the UWF is one of the only feds whose tape library Vince doesn't own, so the odds of a UWF DVD being made anytime soon are fairly small.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 21, 2007 12:04:51 GMT -5
There actually is a UWF/Mid-south DVD. I saw it at Best Buy yesterday.
I watched the World Class DVD and it was alright. Way too much stuff about the Freebirds/Von Erichs but that was understandable. The one thing I got out of it besides Jimmy Garvin and Buddy Roberts looking like hell was how sad I am for Kevin Von Erich. Sure he tries to hide it but deep down it must suck being the only brother left.
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Joekishi
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 21, 2007 18:29:47 GMT -5
Nice that he was a fan, but he has no place on the disc. Any other current "Superstar" who wasn't involved wouldn't have been on the disc, so why is Helmsley? I thought his comments were valid, but not really profound. I didn't mind him being on the DVD so much. I wonder if he gets off on trying to sound like a wrestling historian with insightful commentary. you know why would it matter if he "Gets off" on it, i mean it's obvious he watched WCCW and was a fan of the show. I mean WCCW was a pretty big thing. Plus he took the place of a Vince McMahon who i wish would have made an appearrance.
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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on Dec 22, 2007 6:37:26 GMT -5
I dont mind any of todays workers giving their opinions on the historical DVDs. Trips is a student of the art of pro wrestling. He obviously has alot of respect for the history of the business, which is something that is sorely lacking in the new generation of stars.
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Stevie J
Samurai Cop
RING OF HONOR DEE-VEE-DEEZ~!
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Post by Stevie J on Dec 22, 2007 6:39:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it's not surprising they don't mention the church thing. I thought the most damning bit of stuff on Fritz was that clip of him with Mike's doctors talking about how Mike would be back in the ring soon. Considering what his son just went through, the last thing he should have been thinking about is that. It's the single thing everyone finds disturbing about this disc. I heard Karl Stern say it and I thought nah... won't be that bad. Then I reviewed the DVD last night and thought WOW... Fritz Von Erich is a big league douchebag!
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Post by hutter on Dec 22, 2007 9:53:03 GMT -5
Fritz brought his family on Pat Robertson's 700 Club several times, usually after their periodic tragedies. For the WWE to completely leave off this very public part of the Von Erich marketing strategy is odd.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Dec 22, 2007 12:14:34 GMT -5
One of the main things I got out of this DVD is that the biggest fan of Michael Hayes is Michael Hayes! He can give Mick Foley, who was also on the DVD and didn't make an ass out of himself, and Brett Clark a run for their money in the self admiration club. That can't be hard considering Mick Foley is one of the most humble and self-deprecating people on the planet.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 22, 2007 15:41:47 GMT -5
Fritz brought his family on Pat Robertson's 700 Club several times, usually after their periodic tragedies. For the WWE to completely leave off this very public part of the Von Erich marketing strategy is odd. World class was on CBN for years. CBN is Pat Robertson's television entwork for those that don't know. I"m not shocked they left it out. Pat probably declined to be interviewed or something.
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The Line
Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by The Line on Dec 22, 2007 18:20:17 GMT -5
OK, kinda a random question.
Was Jesse Dalton(Ray Gordy: Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy's real son) on the DVD at all? I think it would be nice to have him talk, but I can understand WWE not wanting to break kayfabe.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 22, 2007 20:31:39 GMT -5
OK, kinda a random question. Was Jesse Dalton(Ray Gordy: Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy's real son) on the DVD at all? I think it would be nice to have him talk, but I can understand WWE not wanting to break kayfabe. No He wasn't.
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The Line
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Post by The Line on Dec 22, 2007 21:17:24 GMT -5
OK, kinda a random question. Was Jesse Dalton(Ray Gordy: Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy's real son) on the DVD at all? I think it would be nice to have him talk, but I can understand WWE not wanting to break kayfabe. No He wasn't. damn, thats a shame. But I guess he would have been a wee lad back during the Freebird's heyday.
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 23, 2007 22:28:15 GMT -5
I thought his comments were valid, but not really profound. I didn't mind him being on the DVD so much. I wonder if he gets off on trying to sound like a wrestling historian with insightful commentary. you know why would it matter if he "Gets off" on it, i mean it's obvious he watched WCCW and was a fan of the show. I mean WCCW was a pretty big thing. Plus he took the place of a Vince McMahon who i wish would have made an appearrance. At least it was better than cena on the dusty rhodes dvd. I mean, maybe cena was a fan (nwa WAS aired on TBS which was a national cable channel) but wasnt cena born in boston where wwf was king? NWA/WCW never went there (or hardly anywhere in the northeast) until bischoff took over IIRC.
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 23, 2007 23:12:52 GMT -5
But Cena was also a HUGE sting mark, as is evident by his ringwork and lots of interviews.
Plus chris masters talks about Dusty in WWE which since he's around our age, he would remember mostly.
I think they use wrestlers who were actual fans of the product back then, to commentate on situations from their perspective is more or less giving a fan perspective on things.
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