Would WWE do an ECW-type "Invasion" with ROH?

[slasher911]

And then add another several thousand across 3 continents a piece...

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

slasher911 said:

And then add another several thousand across 3 continents a piece...

But why let facts get in the way of a "Hilarious" quip? I mean, that's just bad "comedy".

[hollywood]

Forget a ROH invasion of RAW, I move for a Chikara invasion!!! Spankypac...get the kidnap bus!!!

[Andrew is Good]

One idea they could try as well if they wanted to if they wanted to have ROH wrestlers on one of their shows, then have WWE wrestlers face off against ROH alumni in the main event or something.

So let's say you have two guys from ROH facing each other, and after the match, maybe 4 WWE heels come down to beat them up for going on the show. Let's say, MVP, Mr. Kennedy, Finlay and John Morrison. They get big heat, then here comes London, Kendrick and Jamie Noble. For the night I guess Noble can be babyface because he's a former ROH guy. But it's not enough, and the heels still get the advantage. You turn the lights out, then they come back on, and CM Punk comes in and cleans house (seeing as his the biggest ROH name the WWE has). They book a match for the 4 heels facing off against the ROH alumni. I guess this can either be done at a ROH show or a WWE show.

It's pretty much a guarentee that WWE knows about ROH and I guess if WWE wanted to help out, they probably could. As much as ROH fans want to believe, if TNA isn't that well known by a lot of wrestling fans, I know that ROH isn't all that known. Though, I will say this.

If ROH got a television show on a national television network, I guarentee between .6 and 1.0 ratings. For some reason, I believe that's the rating for the hardcore wrestling fans, who will watch wrestling if it's on television. WSX also did that much until they went up against ECW on Sci Fi. That's also how much Heat, Velocity, andImpact during its early days got. WWF Excess and WWE Confidential also got ratings similar to this.

So if it's wrestling, you can guarentee this amount of people will watch if it's on a national television network. If there's a ring and guys in tights, these people will watch. That's all ROH needs to advertise. We're Ring of Honor, we're this style of wrestling and we have these guys wrestlers and such, and people will watch, and you build from there. But again, ROH wants to build up slowly. I guess though that WWE wouldn't have much to lose anyway, as it's not like their pay per views are in competing range with WWE. ROH pay per views seem to be on all the time and can be watched at anytime to my understanding, where WWE pay per views are live one shot deals, then a week of encores.

I think if ROH and WWE reached an agreement, it would help ROH big time. I say about, a good estimate, between 500,000 to 2 million people worldwide know about ROH. I know some people on one side would think, what, not that many people know, or what, you're selling them too short, but like, how much does ROH draw regularly? 500-1000. I heard their biggest drawing show was about 2000 people. So you get exposure from the WWE, which broadcasts to people worldwide, you have a huge potential boost in people viewing your product.

[primetime110]

WWE would have NOTHING to gain from this, Why would they do it? Might as well have a backyard wrestling Fed. invade.

[The Captain]

As cool as the idea is, I don't see it happening. WWE just has no reason to at this time. When they did the ECW invasion, they and ECW had a common enemy in WCW. WCW was stealing ECW's talent away and Nitro was slaughtering RAW in the ratings. ROH also isn't as big as ECW was in 1997. They WILL get there, but it's going to take awhile. So unless Gabe ends up on the WWE payroll like Heyman did and ROH starts holding more, LIVE PPV's, along with just getting more exposure, it won't happen.

[The Portable Stove]

primetime110 said:

WWE would have NOTHING to gain from this, Why would they do it? Might as well have a backyard wrestling Fed. invade.

One word: talent.

To tell you the truth, I would enjoy this, simply because then we're entitled to some kind of meeting between William Regal and Nigel McGuinness. Maybe Regal calls Nigel a rapscallion or something...

[primetime110]

Doesn't ROH want to be known for pure wrestling as oppose to WWE sports entertainment? Which a "pure wrestling" fed won't gather much fanfare as sports entertainment right now. TNA found that out and now the try to entertain and put in pure wrestling at the sametime. Why didn't TNA and ROH do some kind of show together?

[KLRA]

Why didn't TNA and ROH do some kind of show together? Because TNA views themselves as being "above that" mostly and holding a glorified opinion of themselves. They're trying to get themselves across as THE BIG THING THE BIG THING THE BIG THING and co-promoting with a big scale North-East Indie doesn't do a lot to help that perception.

Plus TNA and ROH always have had sticking points with each other due (see Rob Feinstein for an example, see the Aries/Strong 'controversy' for another).

If the WWE's ratings actually DO plummet down to 2.5, then MAYBE you might see something where WWE tried to 'shake things up' a little bit with an 'invading force.' At most I can see them running a couple of shows in the northeast and have midcard matches involving guys that are either in ROH, or work ROH styles just to maybe draw in people that are interested in what's going on. Then maybe after that they keep the style for a little while, and then it's an afterthought in months after that.

As for ROH not wanting to associate with WWE, I think it's more they don't want to associate with the styles. They present themselves as "we're different than those guys, but we don't despise them." Look at Colt Cabana's promo on "Fighting Spirit" as an example of this, "Just because you like the food at Burger King doesn't mean you can't go down the road and try McDonalds."

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

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I don't think TNA sees themselves above ROH more than the fact that it would be utterly pointless to allow guys like Joe, Homicide, Daniels, A.J., and Lethal to showcase one or two great matches per month at ROH DVD prices...when you're trying to draw PPV buys for a more expensive product. As crappy as it seems, it was kind of dumb that they allowed guys like Joe to work ROH DVDs as long as they did...since TNA never let him wrestle great matches on TV, only PPV. And why buy a TNA PPV when Joe may never have a TNA match better than any of his ROH matches?

Despite that, TNA and ROH should still work together. But, WWE will never allow an ROH Invasion unless TNA starts kicking WWE's butts for months, and that's not happening in the immediate future.

Plus, and I hate to say it, but 1995-97 ECW was WAY more famous than current ROH. ECW's TV was available in NYC, NJ, PA, most of New England, Carolinas, Florida, and the West Coast, and if you had DirecTV you could watch them from anywhere in the U.S. Plus, ECW had bigger 'names'. ROH is still essentially a website that sells DVDs, and is finally getting into showing public-access looking PPVs that make 2003 TNA seem like top-notch television production.

If there's three promotions...
A) #1 has no reason to EVER work with #3.
B) #2 should work with #3.

[Madagascar Fred]

Vince would never do it, one reason would be: most RoH guys are too small (exceptions are Albright, Castagnoli, Hero - who on the other hand BELONG in the WWE)

[MetalGearDizzle]

perfectsdump said:

Forget WWE wanting to do it, I don't think ROH would want too.

Yeah, why would ROH want millions of viewers and national exposure? That'd be outlandish!

[slasher911]

ROH is doing just fine on their own. Everything does not need to be on TV to be successful.

[havok666]

Man, like 98% of WWE's audience has no clue what ROH is. Take into account the WWE's millions of fans in Europe, India, Japan, etc..