Highest Title Deserved 11: Necro Butcher

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

As mentioned in previous polls in this case I am defining "deserved" as what they should have been giving as a result of their overall talent including: ring work, mic skills, name value etc. Also as one poster asked this should be taken from the point that the performer in question is performing for a top tier company (ie. WWE, WCW in the 90s, etc)

[Baixo Astral]

I actually see Necro as being better than a lot of people give him credit for, but not being a titles kind of guy, more of a special attraction, ala Brody or Abby in the territory days.

Call me nuts, but I'd love it if the WWE would bring guys like Necro in on short-running contracts to be built for title shots, defeated, and then sent on their way - it'd rotate things A LOT, and would benefit everyone, IMHO.

[boiledewokthe3rd]

I wouldn't even employ the guy, not a fan.

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

thegoldenspike said:

I actually see Necro as being better than a lot of people give him credit for, but not being a titles kind of guy, more of a special attraction, ala Brody or Abby in the territory days.

Call me nuts, but I'd love it if the WWE would bring guys like Necro in on short-running contracts to be built for title shots, defeated, and then sent on their way - it'd rotate things A LOT, and would benefit everyone, IMHO.

QFT. Not the guy's biggest fan, and voted "no title", but like a Brody, it's weird to even imagine him holding a belt. I'm not a fan of deathmatches, but there's something about Necro that even works outside of that genre, IMO.

And can't call you nuts on the Necro/short-term WWE idea. It's a great idea. The entire industry would be better if companies like WWE, TNA, ROH brought in talent for short periods, built the guys up, and let guys go back and forth more freely.

Generations of stars were once built (and kept fresh) that way, because the promoters used to realize that the talent was their true commodity, and thus, they had to keep characters fresh or else they'd be worth less drawing power down the road, and that could hurt their own bottom line. Bringing in guys like Necro for short term deals keeps the product from becoming stale, which benefits the company. You obviously want to secure your top draws, but if you don't have fresh opponents for them in between their major feuds, your product eventually runs the risk of becoming incredibly stale over time.

For example, WWE could sign Necro for three months. Have him attack John Cena next Monday night, and fans would know they're seeing something different. Have Necro make Cena's life a living hell for a few weeks, and he jobs to Cena at the very next PPV. Then, have Necro go over a babyface at the PPV after that, then job him to that same babyface at the third PPV. Easy. Then, Necro on his way, and all sides would have benefitted...especially their main draw Cena, who would've had one more fresh, interesting opponent other than the same old guys he always beats.

From the exposure, Necro would be worth more elsewhere, a bigger draw/name, and WWE can always bring him back in again, and the WWE fans will remember that he's the crazy asskicker who caused loads of trouble last time he was around...and will be curious to see what he'll do if/when he comes back...maybe as a badass that the babyface brings in to deal with a couple of a-holes that have been ruining his life (storyline-wise).

But, nowadays, WWE and TNA just stockpile guys for long periods, don't use all of their workers enough on TV, and when they finally send people packing, it's because they're unhappy, a headcase, hopelessly un-over (or booked poorly), or "on something". That system doesn't necessarily benefit anyone, and is bad for business.

PS: I realize feuding Necro Butcher and John Cena is completely unrealistic in the current climate of the industry...but back in the 1980s, Hulk Hogan used to beat fresh new opponents of all shapes, sizes, and levels of fame/talent, and he kept his world title reign fresh for almost four straight years without being booed to an embarrassing extent...even in places like NY/NJ/Philly.

[hollywood]

I wouldn't mind Necro getting a short run in WWE doing his hardcore thing. Maybe even ship him to ECW to spice things up a bit. I became a fan after seeing him in Chikara's TWGP 2006.

[bwo4life]

Necro is good at taking a beating. That's it. His matches were against Low Ki and Samoa Joe were great. But they carried him...majorly.

He wouldn't get far in WWE. I doubt theyd consider a title on him.

[Baixo Astral]

aaaaaaaaa said:

thegoldenspike said:

I actually see Necro as being better than a lot of people give him credit for, but not being a titles kind of guy, more of a special attraction, ala Brody or Abby in the territory days.

Call me nuts, but I'd love it if the WWE would bring guys like Necro in on short-running contracts to be built for title shots, defeated, and then sent on their way - it'd rotate things A LOT, and would benefit everyone, IMHO.

QFT. Not the guy's biggest fan, and voted "no title", but like a Brody, it's weird to even imagine him holding a belt. I'm not a fan of deathmatches, but there's something about Necro that even works outside of that genre, IMO.

And can't call you nuts on the Necro/short-term WWE idea. It's a great idea. The entire industry would be better if companies like WWE, TNA, ROH brought in talent for short periods, built the guys up, and let guys go back and forth more freely.

Generations of stars were once built (and kept fresh) that way, because the promoters used to realize that the talent was their true commodity, and thus, they had to keep characters fresh or else they'd be worth less drawing power down the road, and that could hurt their own bottom line. Bringing in guys like Necro for short term deals keeps the product from becoming stale, which benefits the company. You obviously want to secure your top draws, but if you don't have fresh opponents for them in between their major feuds, your product eventually runs the risk of becoming incredibly stale over time.

For example, WWE could sign Necro for three months. Have him attack John Cena next Monday night, and fans would know they're seeing something different. Have Necro make Cena's life a living hell for a few weeks, and he jobs to Cena at the very next PPV. Then, have Necro go over a babyface at the PPV after that, then job him to that same babyface at the third PPV. Easy. Then, Necro on his way, and all sides would have benefitted...especially their main draw Cena, who would've had one more fresh, interesting opponent other than the same old guys he always beats.

From the exposure, Necro would be worth more elsewhere, a bigger draw/name, and WWE can always bring him back in again, and the WWE fans will remember that he's the crazy asskicker who caused loads of trouble last time he was around...and will be curious to see what he'll do if/when he comes back...maybe as a badass that the babyface brings in to deal with a couple of a-holes that have been ruining his life (storyline-wise).

But, nowadays, WWE and TNA just stockpile guys for long periods, don't use all of their workers enough on TV, and when they finally send people packing, it's because they're unhappy, a headcase, hopelessly un-over (or booked poorly), or "on something". That system doesn't necessarily benefit anyone, and is bad for business.

PS: I realize feuding Necro Butcher and John Cena is completely unrealistic in the current climate of the industry...but back in the 1980s, Hulk Hogan used to beat fresh new opponents of all shapes, sizes, and levels of fame/talent, and he kept his world title reign fresh for almost four straight years without being booed to an embarrassing extent...even in places like NY/NJ/Philly.

Exceptionally good post, and totally my philosophy for the industry... not just kudos, but judo-kudos.

[Mr. Mediocre]

aaaaaaaaa said:

thegoldenspike said:

I actually see Necro as being better than a lot of people give him credit for, but not being a titles kind of guy, more of a special attraction, ala Brody or Abby in the territory days.

Call me nuts, but I'd love it if the WWE would bring guys like Necro in on short-running contracts to be built for title shots, defeated, and then sent on their way - it'd rotate things A LOT, and would benefit everyone, IMHO.

QFT. Not the guy's biggest fan, and voted "no title", but like a Brody, it's weird to even imagine him holding a belt. I'm not a fan of deathmatches, but there's something about Necro that even works outside of that genre, IMO.

And can't call you nuts on the Necro/short-term WWE idea. It's a great idea. The entire industry would be better if companies like WWE, TNA, ROH brought in talent for short periods, built the guys up, and let guys go back and forth more freely.

Generations of stars were once built (and kept fresh) that way, because the promoters used to realize that the talent was their true commodity, and thus, they had to keep characters fresh or else they'd be worth less drawing power down the road, and that could hurt their own bottom line. Bringing in guys like Necro for short term deals keeps the product from becoming stale, which benefits the company. You obviously want to secure your top draws, but if you don't have fresh opponents for them in between their major feuds, your product eventually runs the risk of becoming incredibly stale over time.

For example, WWE could sign Necro for three months. Have him attack John Cena next Monday night, and fans would know they're seeing something different. Have Necro make Cena's life a living hell for a few weeks, and he jobs to Cena at the very next PPV. Then, have Necro go over a babyface at the PPV after that, then job him to that same babyface at the third PPV. Easy. Then, Necro on his way, and all sides would have benefitted...especially their main draw Cena, who would've had one more fresh, interesting opponent other than the same old guys he always beats.

From the exposure, Necro would be worth more elsewhere, a bigger draw/name, and WWE can always bring him back in again, and the WWE fans will remember that he's the crazy asskicker who caused loads of trouble last time he was around...and will be curious to see what he'll do if/when he comes back...maybe as a badass that the babyface brings in to deal with a couple of a-holes that have been ruining his life (storyline-wise).

But, nowadays, WWE and TNA just stockpile guys for long periods, don't use all of their workers enough on TV, and when they finally send people packing, it's because they're unhappy, a headcase, hopelessly un-over (or booked poorly), or "on something". That system doesn't necessarily benefit anyone, and is bad for business.

PS: I realize feuding Necro Butcher and John Cena is completely unrealistic in the current climate of the industry...but back in the 1980s, Hulk Hogan used to beat fresh new opponents of all shapes, sizes, and levels of fame/talent, and he kept his world title reign fresh for almost four straight years without being booed to an embarrassing extent...even in places like NY/NJ/Philly.

Great, great, great post.

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[Styx Cover Band]

I voted World Title. Necro is the type of guy who win or lose (actually mostly lose) your know you are going to get a great, hard hitting match. I don't think i've ever seen a bad Necro match. He's not a very technical wrestler (but better than most give him credit for when) but can brawl with the best of them and takes a beating like no other.

Can you imagine if the WWE brought in Necro to go against Cena. Cena would probably quit the first time Necro punched him in the face. To bad Mick foley isn't still wrestling Necro/Mick would be pretty crazy. Even better TCB vs. Mick/Funk. That would be insane

[Chainsaw]

Lufisto broke her hand on his skull.

For that, he shall get no title.

[skiller]

The Necro Butcher is beyond those straps of leather and gold you call titles.

[Styx Cover Band]

skiller said:

The Necro Butcher is beyond those straps of leather and gold you call titles.

QFT

[Dragonfly]

The WWE has absolutely no problem taking a "classic" gimmick and giving it to someone else (Umaga is Kamala, Big Daddy V is Abby sans fork, etc). I honestly don't see why he couldn't pushed as the new Brody. It wouldn't be that hard to pull off, either. Just put him Smackdown and have JBL go on and on about he "reminds him of a young Bruiser Brody." The only problem I foresee is their writing team taking the "easy" way out and being distasteful. The last thing anyone needs is a "Carlito stabbed Necro" angle.

[Styx Cover Band]

ariata said:

The WWE has absolutely no problem taking a "classic" gimmick and giving it to someone else (Umaga is Kamala, Big Daddy V is Abby sans fork, etc). I honestly don't see why he couldn't pushed as the new Brody. It wouldn't be that hard to pull off, either. Just put him Smackdown and have JBL go on and on about he "reminds him of a young Bruiser Brody." The only problem I foresee is their writing team taking the "easy" way out and being distasteful. The last thing anyone needs is a "Carlito stabbed Necro" angle.

I doubt their current writing team even know who brody is let alone about his tragic death. But I'm all for Necro in wwe. How about a circus death match Necro vs. Triple H

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

styxcoverbnd said:

ariata said:

The WWE has absolutely no problem taking a "classic" gimmick and giving it to someone else (Umaga is Kamala, Big Daddy V is Abby sans fork, etc). I honestly don't see why he couldn't pushed as the new Brody. It wouldn't be that hard to pull off, either. Just put him Smackdown and have JBL go on and on about he "reminds him of a young Bruiser Brody." The only problem I foresee is their writing team taking the "easy" way out and being distasteful. The last thing anyone needs is a "Carlito stabbed Necro" angle.

I doubt their current writing team even know who brody is let alone about his tragic death. But I'm all for Necro in wwe. How about a circus death match Necro vs. Triple H

Michael Hayes and Dusty Rhodes definitely know who Brody is/appreciate how awesome he was.

Unfortunately, we may never see a true Brody gimmick in WWE. This has probably been covered here, but, "Berserker" was basically Vince's post-mortem version of Bruiser Brody (played by admitted Brody fanboy John Nord).

Beserker's "HUSS! HUSS!" was like Brody's constant bark he did in All-Japan and elsewhere, plus the big furry boots, out of the ring brawling (again, Vince's truncated version), etc.

The reason Berserker didn't work is 'cause Brody was never a Cartoonish Viking Lowermidcarder. Brody was essentially Godzilla, an imposing threat, and there to destroy. For the last ten years of Brody's career, he'd walk into the arena from Texas to Japan, and everybody would scurry to stray far away from the guy (even if he was a face). That was a super cool aesthetic energy added to his matches, esp. on TV.

I still think the Brody gimmick is pretty timeless and awesome if booked properly. Somebody could build Necro up like that (even though he isn't as physically imposing as Brody) if they tried hard enough.