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Post by Timmy8271 on Sept 11, 2007 1:59:09 GMT -5
Cool "In-Crowd" Response : That it's worth watching, or that 2 hours will make it better. Real Answer : That they only exist to steal your favorite ROH stars away. Or that all your favorite ROH stars should never loose and get pushed to the moon. I think the biggest misconception is not wheter or not wrestlers are leaving but more to do with who's in control of the books at TNA: it is not one person's fault (Russo) there's really just too many people with feet in the creative pool. I blame Shoebaby.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Sept 11, 2007 2:00:54 GMT -5
Or that all your favorite ROH stars should never loose and get pushed to the moon. I think the biggest misconception is not wheter or not wrestlers are leaving but more to do with who's in control of the books at TNA: it is not one person's fault (Russo) there's really just too many people with feet in the creative pool. I blame Shoebaby. Who's Shoebaby?
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Post by thestinger on Sept 11, 2007 9:44:17 GMT -5
Wow, I guess we're not allowed to even have opinions anymore, I'll keep that in mind. Keep in mind that I went out of my way to say in the original post not to bother with "clever" responses like that. So in addition to being trolls, they're also not that original or creative since I mentioned when I started the thread that many would not be mature enough not to barge in here and blurt out some tired cliche.
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Post by Cheeba on Sept 11, 2007 10:00:55 GMT -5
The most common misconception is that it is just like WWE but with washed up former WWE wrestlers.
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Post by Chainsaw on Sept 11, 2007 10:03:16 GMT -5
You guys sure are harsh. He was just making a joke A joke gets really old after you hear it a million times.
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Post by Corporate H on Sept 11, 2007 10:06:06 GMT -5
TNA is on the verge of bankruptcy.
I think TNA will continue to lose money for a good few more years.
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Post by chibidiablo on Sept 11, 2007 11:27:49 GMT -5
Well that didn't take long. I knew we couldn't get an entire page before someone gave the 'clever' response that I basically provided in the original posting. It's the truth, for some reason a lot of fans are blinded by just how bad it is. I loved TNA, but for a while now I can't stomach watching it.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Sept 11, 2007 11:33:10 GMT -5
The slightest thing TNA does this week is the worst thing to ever happen in wrestling, while WWE's Exploding Limos, Bastard Sons and Billionaire Battles make for amazing television and keep ushering in the 'new Attitude Era.'
Example:
LAX and the Dudleys having a reasonable cage match up until a point where D'von touches the (obviously not) electricified cage and gives us a crappy but brief moment in which the lights flicker on and off and D'von does his patented flopping around like a fish = WHAT CRAP, HOW UNREALISTIC, HOW DARE THEY INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE BY EXPECTING US TO BELIEVE THAT, GOOKER GOOKER GOOKER
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Vince McMahon "blows up" in a limo, the WWE try their hardest to dupe the world into thinking he's legitimately dead and attempt to draw out the angle and make it some huge mystery-suspense dealie despite the live crowds shitting all over it and the bad timing of several REAL wrestler deaths which the WWE completely ignores because they don't want those to interfere with the ten bell salute they give Vince = THE NEW ATTITUDE ERA HAS JUST BEGUN, RAW JUST GOT A BAJILLION IN THE NIELSENS, EVERYONE WHO SAYS THIS SHOULD BE A GOOKER NOMINEE IS AN EVIL SMARK SMARK BUZZWORD IWC SMARK WHO ISN'T GIVING IT ENOUGH TIME BECAUSE OF THEIR TNA BIAS
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Post by sexualvanilla on Sept 11, 2007 11:52:29 GMT -5
Also, and I see this a lot in Q&A columns and other similar webpages, that since WWE is in hot water right now, TNA can now step up and take over. They can't take it over with 1.1 ratings
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Post by chibidiablo on Sept 11, 2007 11:55:08 GMT -5
The slightest thing TNA does this week is the worst thing to ever happen in wrestling, while WWE's Exploding Limos, Bastard Sons and Billionaire Battles make for amazing television and keep ushering in the 'new Attitude Era.' Example: LAX and the Dudleys having a reasonable cage match up until a point where D'von touches the (obviously not) electricified cage and gives us a crappy but brief moment in which the lights flicker on and off and D'von does his patented flopping around like a fish = WHAT CRAP, HOW UNREALISTIC, HOW DARE THEY INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE BY EXPECTING US TO BELIEVE THAT, GOOKER GOOKER GOOKER vs Vince McMahon "blows up" in a limo, the WWE try their hardest to dupe the world into thinking he's legitimately dead and attempt to draw out the angle and make it some huge mystery-suspense dealie despite the live crowds crapting all over it and the bad timing of several REAL wrestler deaths which the WWE completely ignores because they don't want those to interfere with the ten bell salute they give Vince = THE NEW ATTITUDE ERA HAS JUST BEGUN, RAW JUST GOT A BAJILLION IN THE NIELSENS, EVERYONE WHO SAYS THIS SHOULD BE A GOOKER NOMINEE IS AN EVIL SMARK SMARK BUZZWORD IWC SMARK WHO ISN'T GIVING IT ENOUGH TIME BECAUSE OF THEIR TNA BIAS But LAX vs The Dudleys wouldve been a good match and didnt need that shit. The limo thing did get people interesed in the product
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Sept 11, 2007 12:00:08 GMT -5
The limo thing did get people interesed in the product Then I completely fail to see how having newspapers incorrectly cite the man as legitimately dead, and radio DJ hosts/TV news anchors mock the hell out of the angle and use it as one more example of how wrestling is for complete morons equates to interesting people in the product.
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Post by poi zen rana on Sept 11, 2007 12:24:26 GMT -5
The limo thing did get people interesed in the product Then I completely fail to see how having newspapers incorrectly cite the man as legitimately dead, and radio DJ hosts/TV news anchors mock the hell out of the angle and use it as one more example of how wrestling is for complete morons equates to interesting people in the product. simple it was vince mcmahon in the limo. had it been vince russo in the limo however...
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Post by thestinger on Sept 11, 2007 13:22:09 GMT -5
It's the truth, for some reason a lot of fans are blinded by just how bad it is. It's the truth that it's your opinion. Nobody's 'blind' to anything, we just don't share your personal opinion. MY personal opinion (which I'm giving you even though you didn't ask for it -- quid pro quo) is that WWE doesn't even qualify as wrestling, but is a prime time soap opera/reality show. I would find a test pattern more entertaining. But you don't see me on the WWE board annoying WWE fans. And I did ask posters to spare me the sarcastic responses. There's a million 'bash TNA' threads and I wanted to have one to seriously discuss the company without flames. Of course I knew that wouldn't happen. You were just the first person predictable enough to prove me right.
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Sept 11, 2007 13:50:24 GMT -5
I think the biggest misconception has to be both the whole "(Fill in the blank) Hates TNA and is leaving", but would like to add the an additional part to that, in regards to the contracts TNA has and their length. The first part is obvious, as everyone except Jeff Jarrett and Kurt Angle have been reported to hate TNA, working for TNA, and would take $1.50 contract to work for the WWE almost every other day for a stretch there. However, I think a lot of the misconception comes from people having no idea who has signed what contract and how long they're in TNA's service. Samoa Joe has been reported to have an expired contract, a month left on his contract, a few months, a year, up to a few years all in the same thread.
Outside of WrestleCrap, in the world of reality, I think a lot of people honestly operate with the misonception that TNA is just basically WCW 2.0. I'm not trying to bash, but the casual fans I know are pretty sure it's just the WCW guys that couldn't get a job with the WWE that started a wrestling group.
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Post by thestinger on Sept 11, 2007 14:04:33 GMT -5
but the casual fans I know are pretty sure it's just the WCW guys that couldn't get a job with the WWE that started a wrestling group. REALLY common misconception. You could call 3D, the James Gang and Rhino WWE castoffs if you want (even though Rhino wasn't fired for reasons involving his perfomance.) But when I hear people call guys who CHOSE to come to TNA WWE castoffs like Christian and Angle, you know the person doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Post by dpg on Sept 11, 2007 14:08:04 GMT -5
It's the truth, for some reason a lot of fans are blinded by just how bad it is. It's the truth that it's your opinion. Nobody's 'blind' to anything, we just don't share your personal opinion. MY personal opinion (which I'm giving you even though you didn't ask for it -- quid pro quo) is that WWE doesn't even qualify as wrestling, but is a prime time soap opera/reality show. I would find a test pattern more entertaining. But you don't see me on the WWE board annoying WWE fans. And I did ask posters to spare me the sarcastic responses. There's a million 'bash TNA' threads and I wanted to have one to seriously discuss the company without flames. Of course I knew that wouldn't happen. You were just the first person predictable enough to prove me right. Pretty much. I don't watch WWE anymore, so never comment on threads to do with the tv shows or ppv's anymore, as I haven't seen them. However tons of fans, who don't watch or like TNA, constantly go on about how bad it is fo no other reason than it seems to make them feel better.
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Post by scottyno on Sept 12, 2007 13:11:33 GMT -5
but the casual fans I know are pretty sure it's just the WCW guys that couldn't get a job with the WWE that started a wrestling group. REALLY common misconception. You could call 3D, the James Gang and Rhino WWE castoffs if you want (even though Rhino wasn't fired for reasons involving his perfomance.) But when I hear people call guys who CHOSE to come to TNA WWE castoffs like Christian and Angle, you know the person doesn't know what he's talking about. Angle is a WWE castoff, he was fired from WWE because they wanted nothing to do with him anymore because of his problems. Christian however I agree with, he was definitely not a castoff and made the decision to join TNA instead of WWE, Angle didn't have the choice.
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Post by chibidiablo on Sept 12, 2007 13:21:47 GMT -5
It's the truth, for some reason a lot of fans are blinded by just how bad it is. It's the truth that it's your opinion. Nobody's 'blind' to anything, we just don't share your personal opinion. MY personal opinion (which I'm giving you even though you didn't ask for it -- quid pro quo) is that WWE doesn't even qualify as wrestling, but is a prime time soap opera/reality show. I would find a test pattern more entertaining. But you don't see me on the WWE board annoying WWE fans. And I did ask posters to spare me the sarcastic responses. There's a million 'bash TNA' threads and I wanted to have one to seriously discuss the company without flames. Of course I knew that wouldn't happen. You were just the first person predictable enough to prove me right. I wasnt sarcastic once I was dead serious. TNA iMPACT at the moment may be the worst wrestling program there has ever been. The booking makes no sense, a lot of the angles run out of sequence, the talent have to struggle against bullshit to have a good match, no-one is ever elevated, the director is awful and the company has lost money non-stop since it's inception. The obsession with car crash style tv to boost ratings is ridiculous, TNA's business model is such that the ratings dont mean a goddamn thing, it's the ppv buys but you wouldn't know it because the build to every ppv is farcical. They never make anything seem important ever. Look if you don't like WWE that's fine but don't let your hatred of Vince and co blind you to the fact that TNA is a bad, bad product.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Sept 12, 2007 13:37:30 GMT -5
It's the truth that it's your opinion. Nobody's 'blind' to anything, we just don't share your personal opinion. MY personal opinion (which I'm giving you even though you didn't ask for it -- quid pro quo) is that WWE doesn't even qualify as wrestling, but is a prime time soap opera/reality show. I would find a test pattern more entertaining. But you don't see me on the WWE board annoying WWE fans. And I did ask posters to spare me the sarcastic responses. There's a million 'bash TNA' threads and I wanted to have one to seriously discuss the company without flames. Of course I knew that wouldn't happen. You were just the first person predictable enough to prove me right. I wasnt sarcastic once I was dead serious. TNA iMPACT at the moment may be the worst wrestling program there has ever been. The booking makes no sense, a lot of the angles run out of sequence, the talent have to struggle against bullcrap to have a good match, no-one is ever elevated, the director is awful and the company has lost money non-stop since it's inception. The obsession with car crash style tv to boost ratings is ridiculous, TNA's business model is such that the ratings dont mean a goddamn thing, it's the ppv buys but you wouldn't know it because the build to every ppv is farcical. They never make anything seem important ever. Look if you don't like WWE that's fine but don't let your hatred of Vince and co blind you to the fact that TNA is a bad, bad product. Ouch...now I think I'M blind from trying to read that...
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Post by poi zen rana on Sept 12, 2007 13:38:15 GMT -5
It's the truth that it's your opinion. Nobody's 'blind' to anything, we just don't share your personal opinion. MY personal opinion (which I'm giving you even though you didn't ask for it -- quid pro quo) is that WWE doesn't even qualify as wrestling, but is a prime time soap opera/reality show. I would find a test pattern more entertaining. But you don't see me on the WWE board annoying WWE fans. And I did ask posters to spare me the sarcastic responses. There's a million 'bash TNA' threads and I wanted to have one to seriously discuss the company without flames. Of course I knew that wouldn't happen. You were just the first person predictable enough to prove me right. I wasnt sarcastic once I was dead serious. TNA iMPACT at the moment may be the worst wrestling program there has ever been. The booking makes no sense, a lot of the angles run out of sequence, the talent have to struggle against bullcrap to have a good match, no-one is ever elevated, the director is awful and the company has lost money non-stop since it's inception. The obsession with car crash style tv to boost ratings is ridiculous, TNA's business model is such that the ratings dont mean a goddamn thing, it's the ppv buys but you wouldn't know it because the build to every ppv is farcical. They never make anything seem important ever. Look if you don't like WWE that's fine but don't let your hatred of Vince and co blind you to the fact that TNA is a bad, bad product. would you be opposed to backing up your statements and clarifying them? i would just like to understand what you are complaining about. i have a few questions if you don't want to answer them that is fine but, 1)what booking makes no sense? 2)what angles run out of sequence? 3)do you honestly believe no one is elevated? 4)you say they don't make anything sound important ever. what makes other companies, the wwe would be a good example, sound more important?
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