Most common Misconception about TNA?

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["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

I think it's funny when people say they're confused by stuff that happens in TNA storylines, like they're incredibly hard to follow. There's a difference between not liking something and being confused with what's going on. I haven't liked a lot of stuff in TNA's storylines, but Impact doesn't blow my mind. It's a wrestling TV show, not "Mulholland Drive" or some of Godard's work.

[chibidiablo]

poisonrana said:

chibidiablo said:

I wasnt sarcastic once I was dead serious. TNA iMPACT at the moment may be the worst wrestling program there has ever been. The booking makes no sense, a lot of the angles run out of sequence, the talent have to struggle against bullcrap to have a good match, no-one is ever elevated, the director is awful and the company has lost money non-stop since it's inception.
The obsession with car crash style tv to boost ratings is ridiculous, TNA's business model is such that the ratings dont mean a goddamn thing, it's the ppv buys but you wouldn't know it because the build to every ppv is farcical. They never make anything seem important ever.
Look if you don't like WWE that's fine but don't let your hatred of Vince and co blind you to the fact that TNA is a bad, bad product.

would you be opposed to backing up your statements and clarifying them? i would just like to understand what you are complaining about. i have a few questions if you don't want to answer them that is fine but,


1)what booking makes no sense?

2)what angles run out of sequence?

3)do you honestly believe no one is elevated?

4)you say they don't make anything sound important ever. what makes other companies, the wwe would be a good example, sound more important?

1. Easiest example Eric Young and Robert Roode but there is tonnes more
2. Just this last week Sting saying he's glad he got the title shot because it gives him a chance to get revenge on team Pacman, they only attacked him after he got the title shot and only because he got the title shot.
3. Tell me who is?
4. The WWE make things important by replaying and repeating them, some times to the point of annoyance, but at least you know when somethings a big deal.

[poi zen rana]

chibidiablo said:

1. Easiest example Eric Young and Robert Roode but there is tonnes more
2. Just this last week Sting saying he's glad he got the title shot because it gives him a chance to get revenge on team Pacman, they only attacked him after he got the title shot and only because he got the title shot.
3. Tell me who is?
4. The WWE make things important by replaying and repeating them, some times to the point of annoyance, but at least you know when somethings a big deal.

1. roode didn't have to have the authority to fire young. we found out at the end that he didn't have authority. the point was eric young thought he was going to get fired, playing up on his gimmick of already being paranoid and gullible. that one could be a bit confusing but i didn't find it outrageously abstract.
2. it doesn't matter sting still wants revenge. plus that is more of a sting flub than a tna flub.
3. hmmm... how about jay lethal going clean over one the biggest champions (on paper) tna has had just past sunday?
4. wwe can repeat things because they have five times the time that tna does. if you multiplied impact by five things would be mega hyped up.

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

chibidiablo said:

poisonrana said:

would you be opposed to backing up your statements and clarifying them? i would just like to understand what you are complaining about. i have a few questions if you don't want to answer them that is fine but,


1)what booking makes no sense?

2)what angles run out of sequence?

3)do you honestly believe no one is elevated?

4)you say they don't make anything sound important ever. what makes other companies, the wwe would be a good example, sound more important?

1. Easiest example Eric Young and Robert Roode but there is tonnes more
2. Just this last week Sting saying he's glad he got the title shot because it gives him a chance to get revenge on team Pacman, they only attacked him after he got the title shot and only because he got the title shot.
3. Tell me who is?
4. The WWE make things important by replaying and repeating them, some times to the point of annoyance, but at least you know when somethings a big deal.

1. The Eric Young/Robert Roode angle was insulting to the intelligence of the viewer, but I can hardly say it made no sense. Roode had a fake corporation, is greedy and obsessed with money. Roode saw that the fans really liked Eric Young, saw dollar signs in Eric Young's popularity, so signing Eric Young to be part of his fake corporation would help his bottom line. Eric Young didn't like this, so he and Robert Roode fought way too many times because they never got their issue fully resolved. It's a total 1980s angle, insulting to our intelligence, but it hardly made no sense.

2. You basically explained Sting's motive, whether you meant to or not. Of course Sting would be glad that he got the title shot in retrospect after Pacman and Killings attacked him. Before, he had no reason to want to fight Pacman and Killings so it was just another match to him...that is until they tagged him. Then he was glad. Human beings often reflect and put things into a new perspective when provided with new information...wrestling characters should be able to do the same. That's not non-linear.

3. Jay Lethal and Motor City Machine Guns were elevated quite a bit on Sunday. James Storm and Ron Killings have been elevated since Slammiversary when they were jobbing to former NFL lower-midcarder Frank Wycheck.

4. WWE re-runs, re-caps, and stresses their important angles from one show on RAW, ECW, Smackdown. TNA does not have three television shows during the week to let people know that Donald Trump showed up on RAW, or whatever major happened.

[chibidiablo]

poisonrana said:

chibidiablo said:

1. Easiest example Eric Young and Robert Roode but there is tonnes more
2. Just this last week Sting saying he's glad he got the title shot because it gives him a chance to get revenge on team Pacman, they only attacked him after he got the title shot and only because he got the title shot.
3. Tell me who is?
4. The WWE make things important by replaying and repeating them, some times to the point of annoyance, but at least you know when somethings a big deal.

1. roode didn't have to have the authority to fire young. we found out at the end that he didn't have authority. the point was eric young thought he was going to get fired, playing up on his gimmick of already being paranoid and gullible. that one could be a bit confusing but i didn't find it outrageously abstract.
2. it doesn't matter sting still wants revenge. plus that is more of a sting flub than a tna flub.
3. hmmm... how about jay lethal going clean over one the biggest champions (on paper) tna has had just past sunday?
4. wwe can repeat things because they have five times the time that tna does. if you multiplied impact by five things would be mega hyped up.

I dont want to reveal spoilers if you havent seen them but 3 gets put to bed soon

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

chibidiablo said:

poisonrana said:

1. roode didn't have to have the authority to fire young. we found out at the end that he didn't have authority. the point was eric young thought he was going to get fired, playing up on his gimmick of already being paranoid and gullible. that one could be a bit confusing but i didn't find it outrageously abstract.
2. it doesn't matter sting still wants revenge. plus that is more of a sting flub than a tna flub.
3. hmmm... how about jay lethal going clean over one the biggest champions (on paper) tna has had just past sunday?
4. wwe can repeat things because they have five times the time that tna does. if you multiplied impact by five things would be mega hyped up.

I dont want to reveal spoilers if you havent seen them but 3 gets put to bed soon

Without revealing spoilers #3 isn't put to bed. #3 has a new opponent created for him, and the manner in which the new opponent is created is Booking 101, and people have been doing that in wrestling for 50+ years that wrestling's been on TV.

[i.Sarita.com]

aaaaaaaaa said:

chibidiablo said:

I dont want to reveal spoilers if you havent seen them but 3 gets put to bed soon

Without revealing spoilers #3 isn't put to bed. #3 has a new opponent created for him, and the manner in which the new opponent is created is Booking 101, and people have been doing that in wrestling for 50+ years that wrestling's been on TV.

Why do we bother with people who will hate no matter what?

[poi zen rana]

chibidiablo said:

poisonrana said:

1. roode didn't have to have the authority to fire young. we found out at the end that he didn't have authority. the point was eric young thought he was going to get fired, playing up on his gimmick of already being paranoid and gullible. that one could be a bit confusing but i didn't find it outrageously abstract.
2. it doesn't matter sting still wants revenge. plus that is more of a sting flub than a tna flub.
3. hmmm... how about jay lethal going clean over one the biggest champions (on paper) tna has had just past sunday?
4. wwe can repeat things because they have five times the time that tna does. if you multiplied impact by five things would be mega hyped up.

I dont want to reveal spoilers if you havent seen them but 3 gets put to bed soon

put to bed? you act like it was lethal vs hornswoggle in a countout...

[chibidiablo]

Yeah but how is he elevated by being immediately beaten, again?

[i.Sarita.com]

chibidiablo said:

Yeah but how is he elevated by being immediately beaten, again?

Setting up a fued with another X Division star to get heat going for a fued for the title? OHHNOOZZZ!!! J LETHL HAS NUKLER HEEAATTZZZ!!!

[Limey]

chibidiablo said:

Yeah but how is he elevated by being immediately beaten, again?

The way I see it, X defeats Lethal. Lethal has defeated Angle. If X > Lethal and Lethal > Angle, that make X > Angle, which means that Whomever X is will be getting big things coming his way.

Also, I'm pretty sure nobody here is 100% on the details of the spoiler. We don't even know if it was clean or dirty yet.

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

chibidiablo said:

Yeah but how is he elevated by being immediately beaten, again?

I'd say that beating someone coming off of a huge upset of your world champion would elevate the third person, too. Not as much, but by proxy. In the NFL, if a team is coming off of a huge upset over the Colts, come out too confident the next week and get upset themselves...then some people will start to believe that the third team could be a contender and eventually give the Colts a great game too, if they should face down the road.

But hey, that's just how perception works in sports, where there are clean winners and losers. And usually in sports (football especially), a team is very vulnerable to a huge letdown the week after scoring a big upset. But alas, on a wrestling message board, everything is considered a burial...like somebody else's credibility wouldn't receive a boost by beating somebody that just beat Kurt Angle (since you already spoiled it).

Man, it really is a shame that they're trying to rebuild the credibility of all these X-Division guys that the kids seem to like so much.

[thestinger]

chibidiablo said:

Look if you don't like WWE that's fine but don't let your hatred of Vince and co blind you to the fact that TNA is a bad, bad product.

Ah, yet more "my opinion is fact" nonsense.

You know, this is the second time this week that I mentioned I can't stand WWE's product, and someone immediately jumped to the conclusion that I have 'hatred of Vince.' Well actually, Hollywood told my I was "pissed off at mainstream wrestling" but same general premise.

I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but I just don't care about Vince at all. He's a businessman, whose job it is to make money. He has determined that he can earn greater profits by producing a prime time soap opera instead of a wrestling show.

And you know what? He MAY be right! Reality TV is what's 'in' right now. Non actors reading from a script.

But I don't care if he's right. I want wrestling, so I go elsewhere for my entertainment. I've never watched a single episode of Survivor or American Idol in my life. I don't like those shows. Are you now going to accuse me of hating Paula Abdul? 'Cause I had the hots for her back in the day...

And as for your claim of TNA being the worst wrestling show ever. Uhm, no. I watched the first episode of ECW on Sci Fi out of morbid curiosity. That was the worst hour of television I have ever seen.

[Kevwhatshisname]

The biggest misconception to me is the fact that Vince McMahon is going to show up on iMPACT! and the invasion angle is going to star again. Every year is TNA's last.

Stinger; You should of known that haters were going top show up and give smart ass answers. We basically know who likes and dislikes TNA by now but the haters can't leave it alone. Do TNA fans go to the WWE section and do the same thing that happens here. I'm betting no, but I don't go there anymore.

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

sexualvanilla said:

"We are wrestling"

And this pretty much says it.