The [non-Montreal] Screwjob

[plushtar]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqInmbescG0

This incident involving Wendi richter just came up on YouTube. Although, at least we didn't get years of public tension from Richter over this incident.

[millionurkle]

But we will now, and I'm gonna start it...Vince Mcmahon is such a prick, how dare him!

[Mozenrath]

In light of Moolah's passing, I really don't want to get into it.

[robferatu]

Wait...Moolah was the original Black Scorpion.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Poor Wendi.....she continues to work after the match is over. She really had no idea.

[Mozenrath]

optimistseatbabies said:

Wait...Moolah was the original Black Scorpion.

I thought it was the Spider Lady.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Was it really a screw job or not... I've heard conflicting reports about this.

[Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone]

Wow good find, I had never seen that match. Wendi kicked out of that pin at about 1.5 and the ref kept going, so there was clearly some sort of shenanigans. Not to mention the fact that Gorilla seemed legitimately confused.

[WHATAMANOOOVER]

Moolah was in there to pin Richter and get the belt. By any means necessary! *Raises Fist*

[hollywood]

I honestly have no idea what happened here, and it's the first I'm hearing about this. Anyone care to enlighten me?

[Tapout]

According to the stories, round that time, ole Wendi was getting a little too big for her britches and didn't want to lay down, so Moolah took the strap from her in a "shoot" pinfall.

[Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley]

From watching that, it looks like Wendi was under the impression that she was to unmask Moolah and then pin her.

[Mr. Mediocre]

hollywood said:

I honestly have no idea what happened here, and it's the first I'm hearing about this. Anyone care to enlighten me?

Simple answer: Wendi had a contract dispute with McMahon (and she felt she wasn't being paid enough for the Hulk Hogan cartoon). Since she hadn't signed the contract at the time of the match, this happened, although from what I've been told, Wendi was going to re-sign right after the match (literally).

[Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone]

On a note related to Wendi Richter but completely unrelated to the screwjob, I just wanted to point out how far WWE women's wrestling has come since this. From this posted match, Wendi's wrestling skills seem below that of Candice. By today's standard Candice is largely considered to be average-at-best, or at the very least passable by WWE standards. So in other words, the bar of what is expected by female wrestlers in WWE may be low compared to something like Shimmer, but it is still much higher than 1980's WWF.

[Mozenrath]

lenny said:

On a note related to Wendi Richter but completely unrelated to the screwjob, I just wanted to point out how far WWE women's wrestling has come since this. From this posted match, Wendi's wrestling skills seem below that of Candice. By today's standard Candice is largely considered to be average-at-best, or at the very least passable by WWE standards. So in other words, the bar of what is expected by female wrestlers in WWE may be low compared to something like Shimmer, but it is still much higher than 1980's WWF.

The same can be said of 80s wrestling in general. Other than Savage, Steamboat, and Flair, a lot of main eventers were seriously lackluster.

[defdave]

But I say it was better back then because a big move actually MEANT something.

Nowadays, wrestlers do "fancy" moves all throughout the match, while back in the 80's wrestlers who had big moves saved it for their finisher.

Jake Roberts for example, performed a DDT as his finisher and it was something you waited for and looked forward to. But now, everybody does a DDT and it's nothing special anymore because it's so commonplace.

And think about it...Ric Flair would never "get over" if he were starting in the business today. His moveset isn't "flashy" enough for today's standards. Same for most of the legends of the 80's and early 90's....hardly any would be over today, because they picked their spots and worked the crowd a lot different than wrestlers today.

I think it also depends on if you were a kid in the 80's (like me) or the 90's (like most here probably were) and what you are most familiar with or raised on. If you were raised on Triple H and Steve Austin, then you probably won't understand where an old guy like me is coming from.

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defdave said:

But I say it was better back then because a big move actually MEANT something.

Nowadays, wrestlers do "fancy" moves all throughout the match, while back in the 80's wrestlers who had big moves saved it for their finisher.

Jake Roberts for example, performed a DDT as his finisher and it was something you waited for and looked forward to. But now, everybody does a DDT and it's nothing special anymore because it's so commonplace.

And think about it...Ric Flair would never "get over" if he were starting in the business today. His moveset isn't "flashy" enough for today's standards. Same for most of the legends of the 80's and early 90's....hardly any would be over today, because they picked their spots and worked the crowd a lot different than wrestlers today.

I think it also depends on if you were a kid in the 80's (like me) or the 90's (like most here probably were) and what you are most familiar with or raised on. If you were raised on Triple H and Steve Austin, then you probably won't understand where an old guy like me is coming from.

Specifically, one man who is hated by today's generation is Harley Race. Harley was competent at his craft and knew what he was doing. Today's ADD-ridden generation thinks he is a turtle who shouldn't have even been in the ring. Plus, he didn't always have to do the flying headbutt.

[stevierichardsfan]

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