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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 9, 2007 14:03:04 GMT -5
TNA: The guy with the Superman avatar on Wrestlecrap comes into all of our threads to complain about us.
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Post by erisi236 on Nov 9, 2007 14:03:22 GMT -5
TNA clocked in at over 52+ minutes of wrestling tonight, not including the amateur takedown challenge, and it was all pretty decent too! True. So imagine my surprise this morning when I went to a popular wrestling site to find three of their reviewers stating that matches on the two hour impacts aren't any longer, and that two hour impacts are just two one hour shows stuck together. I was confused so then I re-read all three summaries looking for their takes on the very long Kaz vs. Christian match or the long Six man main event. Not one of the three mentioned one specific segment from last night's show. They didn't watch it. The internet is so biased it's not funny. I'm never going to waste my time going there again. Soon this will be like, the only wrestling site I visit. TNA: The people who complain about us the most don't even watch our shows.
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Post by skiller on Nov 9, 2007 14:06:03 GMT -5
Wait a second, when did AJ become even more awesome?
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Nov 9, 2007 14:09:34 GMT -5
TNA: We have wrestling! And hookers! And Blackjack! In fact, forget the wrestling! And the Blackjack!
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Post by thestinger on Nov 9, 2007 14:14:04 GMT -5
TNA: The people who complain about us the most don't even watch our shows. Congratulations: You win.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Nov 9, 2007 14:14:51 GMT -5
TNA: We have wrestling! And hookers! And Blackjack! In fact, forget the wrestling! And the Blackjack! Now I want to go to The Moon.
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Post by metylerca on Nov 9, 2007 14:19:41 GMT -5
TNA: We Have Wrestlers
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Post by thestinger on Nov 9, 2007 14:21:28 GMT -5
Isn't this sort of implied by their current slogan?
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Post by metylerca on Nov 9, 2007 14:25:58 GMT -5
Isn't this sort of implied by their current slogan? Not quite. They have wrestlers backstage that haven't been on TV in so long, that it makes sense in a way.
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Post by thestinger on Nov 9, 2007 14:32:11 GMT -5
Not quite. They have wrestlers backstage that haven't been on TV in so long, that it makes sense in a way. Granted they have some good ones we haven't seen in the ring in a while. Petey Williams was only shown in back, but I really liked the match between Kaz and Christian.
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Post by metylerca on Nov 9, 2007 14:35:16 GMT -5
Not quite. They have wrestlers backstage that haven't been on TV in so long, that it makes sense in a way. Granted they have some good ones we haven't seen in the ring in a while. Petey Williams was only shown in back, but I really liked the match between Kaz and Christian. As did I. I'm thinking of ordering Genesis to see the ladder match.
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Post by thestinger on Nov 9, 2007 14:38:54 GMT -5
Yeah, that is one of the few times in memory a screwjob finish did what it was designed to do -- make you anticipate a rematch between the two wrestlers.
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Post by poi zen rana on Nov 9, 2007 14:45:09 GMT -5
Isn't this sort of implied by their current slogan? Not quite. They have wrestlers backstage that haven't been on TV in so long, that it makes sense in a way. who specifically are you thinking of? i only ask because most of the people that get complained about for not getting time have been on impact recently
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Post by thestinger on Nov 9, 2007 14:57:01 GMT -5
He might be talking about Triple X, who are REALLY underused right now.
I DO understand that two of them are not going to be at the PPV on Sunday, so they have no matches for them to promote -- nevertheless after an amazing Ultimate X match at Bound For Glory -- you would think they would push the guys a little more.
Other than Triple X and Petey Williams, I think everyone in TNA is mostly receiving the push they more or less deserve.
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Post by metylerca on Nov 9, 2007 15:03:06 GMT -5
He might be talking about Triple X, who are REALLY underused right now. I DO understand that two of them are not going to be at the PPV on Sunday, so they have no matches for them to promote -- nevertheless after an amazing Ultimate X match at Bound For Glory -- you would think they would push the guys a little more. Other than Triple X and Petey Williams, I think everyone in TNA is mostly receiving the push they more or less deserve. My main gripe was Petey. XXX pretty much fell off the wagon in terms of exposure after BFG.
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Post by poi zen rana on Nov 9, 2007 15:09:10 GMT -5
i know you were exaggerating my point was most of the roster has done at least something recently. xxx had their big match up at bfg and with two of them leaving for japan, they weren't involved in storylines this month. petey may not be getting tons of screen time but he is getting screen time more so than usual actually.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 9, 2007 15:22:54 GMT -5
Granted some people have biased opinions of TNA and didn't watch the show apparently. However I did watch the show so I'd like to give my unbiased opinion.
The wrestling was indeed great. However there are some still glaring problems.
1. PhenomeNO vs. Steiners - Who the hell's the face? Certainly not AJ, he's still helping out Christian. And certainly not Scott, at least not from his promos. Granted I can't complain too much about that, but still.
2. Trigger Happy promos: 3 shoots in one night (ok, 2 to be fair). Yes, they were small comments, but still, if we can't let TNA slide for having Brother Ray use his last name that one time...
3. If Roxxi Levaux does the Dominator at more than 1 Foot per second, she'll explode! - Seriously, what was with that. I saw how well she did the move before, but not only did she seem to have trouble holding Gail in place during the setup, but then she just dropped her at a leisuerly pace. I thought somehow TNA had slowed down its women's division, but then Angel Williams powerbombed the ever loving crap out of Roxxi.
4. Backstage inanity with the Angles. The first three on my list are all minor things that really didn't piss me off that much. However, the backstage segments? Oh f***ing GOD. During the arguement between Karen and Kurt (which I believe the topic of was "are you a whore or a gigantic whore?") I was wondering how any of this discussion could ever happen in real life and make any amount of sense. Cause it didn't. Anything that envolves Karen and Kurt onscreen at the same time seems to just suck everything into a deep well of DEEP HURTING [/Dr. Forrester]
5. Samoa Joe, Midcarder for Life.
So let's see, At Bound For Glory, Samoa Joe finally puts an end to Christian's asterisk-laden unbeaten streak after 2 long years. So what's next for Joe? Serious main event push? Nahhh, we're going to throw Robert Roode at him in our most recent attempt to get people to realize that it pays to be him or whatever.
6. AJ Styles < Christian
When your first ever Triple-Crown champion says he wants to "learn from the best", something is wrong. Now I like Heel AJ, but I think his dumbing-down finally hit the breaking point here.
Now I know most of my complaints were focused more on the backstage stuff than the actual wrestling, which is good, because I didn't want to detract from me saying I enjoyed the matches. I just still think TNA has a good ways to go.
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Post by thestinger on Nov 9, 2007 15:43:12 GMT -5
6. AJ Styles < Christian When your first ever Triple-Crown champion says he wants to "learn from the best", something is wrong. Now I like Heel AJ, but I think his dumbing-down finally hit the breaking point here. It's all in the payoff. If they handle the breakdown of this alliance right, AJ will look better. There should be a battle royale or tournament to determine who gets the next title shot, and AJ wins, Christian says, "Ok, you're not ready, give the shot to me." AJ refuses, and just when it looks like he's going to win the strap, Christian betrays him. Then you have a major feud, the master vs. the apprentice and AJ beats Christian clean. Then you have a top face. TNA did a great job with this storyline with Kaz rebelling against, and then beating Raven.
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Post by Michael Coello on Nov 9, 2007 15:56:21 GMT -5
Granted some people have biased opinions of TNA and didn't watch the show apparently. However I did watch the show so I'd like to give my unbiased opinion. The wrestling was indeed great. However there are some still glaring problems. 1. PhenomeNO vs. Steiners - Who the hell's the face? Certainly not AJ, he's still helping out Christian. And certainly not Scott, at least not from his promos. Granted I can't complain too much about that, but still. 2. Trigger Happy promos: 3 shoots in one night (ok, 2 to be fair). Yes, they were small comments, but still, if we can't let TNA slide for having Brother Ray use his last name that one time... 3. If Roxxi Levaux does the Dominator at more than 1 Foot per second, she'll explode! - Seriously, what was with that. I saw how well she did the move before, but not only did she seem to have trouble holding Gail in place during the setup, but then she just dropped her at a leisuerly pace. I thought somehow TNA had slowed down its women's division, but then Angel Williams powerbombed the ever loving crap out of Roxxi. 4. Backstage inanity with the Angles. The first three on my list are all minor things that really didn't piss me off that much. However, the backstage segments? Oh smurfing GOD. During the arguement between Karen and Kurt (which I believe the topic of was "are you a whore or a gigantic whore?") I was wondering how any of this discussion could ever happen in real life and make any amount of sense. Cause it didn't. Anything that envolves Karen and Kurt onscreen at the same time seems to just suck everything into a deep well of DEEP HURTING [/Dr. Forrester] 5. Samoa Joe, Midcarder for Life. So let's see, At Bound For Glory, Samoa Joe finally puts an end to Christian's asterisk-laden unbeaten streak after 2 long years. So what's next for Joe? Serious main event push? Nahhh, we're going to throw Robert Roode at him in our most recent attempt to get people to realize that it pays to be him or whatever. 6. AJ Styles < Christian When your first ever Triple-Crown champion says he wants to "learn from the best", something is wrong. Now I like Heel AJ, but I think his dumbing-down finally hit the breaking point here. Now I know most of my complaints were focused more on the backstage stuff than the actual wrestling, which is good, because I didn't want to detract from me saying I enjoyed the matches. I just still think TNA has a good ways to go. 1. Scott & Rick Steiner are the faces. AJ & Tomko have been attacking people like LAX & Scott in the heelish way, with a rescue by the good guys after. BTW, Scott Steiner not doing a Scott Steiner promo is also a criminal offense punishable by death. 2. What shoots are there? I must have missed them. I just remember the last one and that's it, unless you count Morgan's thing as one. 3. It's the damn Prince of Persia's fault. Maybe Blinx........ 4. Well...........LOOK! A MONKEY! *runs* 5. Finally! one I can answer! Joe had the opportunity to get in the title run for FFYR, if he beat Christian on iMPACT. He didn't, thanks to Roode interfering. The reason? Roode is tired of the same guys being featured, like Kurt Angle, Sting & Samoa Joe. So, he attacks the last one. I don't see the fault of pushing Roode. Roode is a young talent, a homegrown one at that. I get that he isn't exactly Rick Rude on the mic, but he's good in the ring. plus, the story itself makes sense and that shot of Joe bloody for the camera was an awesome visual. It's something like Harris & Cage, but hopefully with a better ending. 6. I remember reading a kayfabe article on the TNA website that AJ, with all the new people coming in, possibly seemed to have lost his confidence he had, and is attaching himself to this guy who accepted him, Christian. Yeah, I know, but work with it. Honestly, I think it's a good change of pace. I think he kinda went away from the world title hunting when he was put pack in the X-Division section during the first show on Spike, and then later the tag team with Daniels, so he didn't do it when he became part of Cage's group.
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Post by skiller on Nov 9, 2007 16:03:47 GMT -5
Ok, so if AJ and Tomko are heels, then what were Ron Killings and Pacman Jones?
I'm just wondering who in their match at BFG played the face.
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