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Post by MGH on Nov 20, 2007 16:59:09 GMT -5
PAC vs Davey Richards - Manhattan Mayhem III usually never post two matches from the same show (I'm actually trying NOT to give the full damn shows away), but I was interested in people's thoughts on this one. This is the match that took a ton of crap from the live crowd for reasons that I haven't been able to figure out yet. There were a couple of botches throughout the match, but nothing that I don't see in other matches. This is also where the noticeable "Benoit" chants began getting thrown Davey's way. I liked this match a lot, just as much as Claudio/Hero earlier in the show quite frankly. What do you think of it?
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Post by thereallybigshow on Nov 20, 2007 17:33:40 GMT -5
It's wrong to post full matches from recently released DVD.
It takes money out of ROH's pocket and is sleazy. How about you do something more constructive instead of stealing from ROH.
If you want to discuss ROH matches go to the official ROH with other fans who actually pay for the DVD instead of stealing the footage. They have hundreds of people on that site who actually support indy wrestling.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 20, 2007 18:23:10 GMT -5
It's wrong to post full matches from recently released DVD. It takes money out of ROH's pocket and is sleazy. How about you do something more constructive instead of stealing from ROH. If you want to discuss ROH matches go to the official ROH with other fans who actually pay for the DVD instead of stealing the footage. They have hundreds of people on that site who actually support indy wrestling. If anything, it makes me buying the DVD far more likely, so it does ROH a favor in more advertising, in my case. I simply do not have the kind of money to buy DVDs sight unseen.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 18:33:52 GMT -5
Not a bad little match, but nothing great, I don't get the hate.
And Mr. Show, at the risk of getting into another pointless and futile argument with you I'm "too young" to win, lighten up, Richards and PAC aren't gonna starve cause MGH posted a match. This show is on my "Must get" ROH list, and seeing this for free doesn't change that.
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Post by The Scuba Guy on Nov 20, 2007 18:46:32 GMT -5
It's wrong to post full matches from recently released DVD. It takes money out of ROH's pocket and is sleazy. How about you do something more constructive instead of stealing from ROH. If you want to discuss ROH matches go to the official ROH with other fans who actually pay for the DVD instead of stealing the footage. They have hundreds of people on that site who actually support indy wrestling. Oh dude, if anyone knows that, it's MGH.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Nov 20, 2007 18:49:38 GMT -5
Very enjoyable match. I'm not a big fan of high flyers, but PAC is solid. Both of these guys are the future of pro wrestling.
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Post by Panda Bear on Nov 20, 2007 19:11:19 GMT -5
It was a pretty good match, though Pac can do better. Davey is still the funniest person in ROH, which is Shocking.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 20, 2007 19:35:00 GMT -5
Upon seeing the titghts on Richards, I don't think they're all that Benoit like. I prefer trunks on him, but eh. Other than the fact he linked two suplexes, he doesn't even really wrestle that much like Benoit. The second one being a different suplex is more like Joe's old Chimaeraplex routine than anything I remember Benoit doing.
Man, that Enzuigiri blatantly missed.
That Kimura is a really sweet finish.
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Post by W?Y on Nov 20, 2007 21:18:04 GMT -5
Thanks, MGH. I wish I could buy ROH DVDs, but the lack of/no desire to get a credit card is overpowering.
EDIT: Decent match, but I'm confused as to the long boos.
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Post by Well, Youre Wrong on Nov 20, 2007 22:08:23 GMT -5
That was pretty solid match, why the crowd shat on it is beyond me.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 20, 2007 22:50:01 GMT -5
It was kind of a "letdown" match when it was live; plus, I think the crowd was expecting a little more from PAC.
That said, I don't think we "crapped" on it, though there were some jerks in the crowd with nothing better to do. The idiots doing the "Benoit" chants helped ruin things, too.
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Post by invaderdave on Nov 20, 2007 22:52:04 GMT -5
I just got Mayhem II today.
*SQUEEEE*
So I'll tell you my thoughts after that. I don't see why it wouldn't be a good match. I can understand why some wouldn't like it, but again, we'll see.
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Post by BlackHoleMark on Nov 21, 2007 4:05:29 GMT -5
It's wrong to post full matches from recently released DVD. It takes money out of ROH's pocket and is sleazy. How about you do something more constructive instead of stealing from ROH. If you want to discuss ROH matches go to the official ROH with other fans who actually pay for the DVD instead of stealing the footage. They have hundreds of people on that site who actually support indy wrestling. If anything, it makes me buying the DVD far more likely, so it does ROH a favor in more advertising, in my case. I simply do not have the kind of money to buy DVDs sight unseen. Also, MGH has, I think, every ROH dvd ever. If anything, he's making up for the giant "losses."
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Post by Baixo Astral on Nov 21, 2007 4:55:06 GMT -5
Ah... PAC. Glad to see him back in the UK at least occasionally at the moment.
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Post by The Wrestling Rambler on Nov 21, 2007 10:32:33 GMT -5
Cheers MGH. That's actually one of the most enjoyable matches I've seem in a while.
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Post by JD Turk on Nov 21, 2007 10:41:16 GMT -5
The thing is the match started off too slow for peoples tastes...you hear about this new British airborne sensation, you would think he'd start the match by going all crazy...once the match started to pick up though, fans got reaally into it!! I enjoyed it personally.
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Post by threev on Nov 21, 2007 12:13:46 GMT -5
It's wrong to post full matches from recently released DVD. It takes money out of ROH's pocket and is sleazy. How about you do something more constructive instead of stealing from ROH. If you want to discuss ROH matches go to the official ROH with other fans who actually pay for the DVD instead of stealing the footage. They have hundreds of people on that site who actually support indy wrestling. There is a difference between physical theft and use that many people do not seem to understand. Taking something from a store is one thing because it removes the possibility completely that anyone will ever be able to buy that particular item again. Watching a wrestling video on the internet is not the same because there is no guarantee that the poster of this video, or myself, or anyone else would buy it if it was not posted. For one, I would not. It does however serve the purpose of getting me interested enough in the product to pay to go to live shows and purchase Pay Per View Events. Posts like the above should not be posted. They detract from a lot of thing, primarily common expectation and sanity, but moreover, the energy used to post that could be used to congregate with other people with endearing philanthropic interests so that you can complain about more meaningful things.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 21, 2007 14:15:40 GMT -5
I think Pac is alright, but his no selling crap to hit his spots annoys the hell out of me.
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Post by sexualvanilla on Nov 21, 2007 19:05:34 GMT -5
I hope the reaction this match got won't shut Pac off from ROH forever. He had a pretty good match with Danielson the night before and an awesome match in Liverpool with Roderick Strong earlier this year
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Post by Panda Bear on Nov 21, 2007 20:10:34 GMT -5
I think Pac is alright, but his no selling crap to hit his spots annoys the hell out of me. That's funny, he sell's like a mother against Steen and Generico in PWG, Think Pac hates ROH?
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