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Post by ddt on Nov 23, 2007 9:40:12 GMT -5
Is it really that much to ask that posters don't put an immediate spoiler in the title of their thread? I'm not saying no one should discuss outcomes -- I'm just saying the outcomes shouldn't be given away in the title of the threads.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 23, 2007 9:53:18 GMT -5
Is it really that much to ask that posters don't put an immediate spoiler in the title of their thread? I'm not saying no one should discuss outcomes -- I'm just saying the outcomes shouldn't be given away in the title of the threads. Apparently it is, as it already happened. If I didn't see Raw on Monday and didn't know about Jericho's re-debut, I can't be mad if every thread title has "OMG JERICHO IS BACK" or "RAW IS JERICHO AGAIN". If I didn't want to be spoiled that badly, the best course of advice would be to avoid the forums until you have seen the footage.
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Post by ddt on Nov 23, 2007 10:05:22 GMT -5
So let me get this straight...
Instead of titling the thread something like "AJ in the Turkey Bowl Match" or "Who Wore the Turkey Suit?" or something like that, someone would much rather be inconsiderate enough to post a blatant spoiler right in the title.
As for the Jericho example argument, that was a spoiler that was known for weeks. Last night's Turkey Bowl result wasn't known information in the weeks leading up to the match. Slightly different scenarios there. The result of a match and the appearance (or return) of a wrestler are two different matters in terms of how they are protected.
At this point, just forget it. If you guys are more interested in arguing than in considering that there are simple and easy alternatives to giving away results in thread titles, that isn't an argument I'm interested in taking part in anymore.
Thanks for refusing to give the slightest bit of consideration to anyone else.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 23, 2007 10:06:59 GMT -5
So let me get this straight... Instead of titling the thread something like "AJ in the Turkey Bowl Match" or "Who Wore the Turkey Suit?" or something like that, someone would much rather be inconsiderate enough to post a blatant spoiler right in the title. As for the Jericho example argument, that was a spoiler that was known for weeks. Last night's Turkey Bowl result wasn't known information in the weeks leading up to the match. Slightly different scenarios there. The result of a match and the appearance (or return) of a wrestler are two different matters in terms of how they are protected. At this point, just forget it. If you guys are more interested in arguing than in considering that there are simple and easy alternatives to giving away results in thread titles, that isn't an argument I'm interested in taking part in anymore. Thanks for refusing to give the slightest bit of consideration to anyone else. If it was still a spoiler and didn't air yet, then I could understand, but as it aired nationwide and I assume is on many websites including TNA's, it's no longer a spoiler and your best bet would be to avoid the internet because many are going to talk about it or put it in the title of their thread/post. It's not like it's breaking the rules or anything.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Nov 23, 2007 10:16:39 GMT -5
So let me get this straight... Instead of titling the thread something like "AJ in the Turkey Bowl Match" or "Who Wore the Turkey Suit?" or something like that, someone would much rather be inconsiderate enough to post a blatant spoiler right in the title. As for the Jericho example argument, that was a spoiler that was known for weeks. Last night's Turkey Bowl result wasn't known information in the weeks leading up to the match. Slightly different scenarios there. The result of a match and the appearance (or return) of a wrestler are two different matters in terms of how they are protected. At this point, just forget it. If you guys are more interested in arguing than in considering that there are simple and easy alternatives to giving away results in thread titles, that isn't an argument I'm interested in taking part in anymore. Thanks for refusing to give the slightest bit of consideration to anyone else. need a tissue, partner? it's aired. it's no longer a spoiler. we're not all here to work around your schedule. if you didnt watch impact then you should know better than to come to the boards untill you've seen it. board dont revolve around you, bud. get over it. i didnt see the end either but i'm not having a s*** fit about it. as for the stuff last night. i was cracking up at what i saw... which wasn't a WHOLE lot because triptophan was kicking my ASS by the time impact come on... but i LOL'd at eric young sitting at the kiddie table
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Nov 23, 2007 11:16:48 GMT -5
The match was really good, and could've been more enjoyable had it not been hacked to pieces by constant commercial breaks.
It's like, three minutes, commercial. Another four minutes, commercial. Not to mention the constant hype for Booker T's debut after every break. A match that took 45 minutes to air probably lasted about half that time.
And I figured that somehow, Christian would end up wearing the suit.
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Post by comahan on Nov 23, 2007 11:27:20 GMT -5
The match was really good, and could've been more enjoyable had it not been hacked to pieces by constant commercial breaks. It's like, three minutes, commercial. Another four minutes, commercial. Not to mention the constant hype for Booker T's debut after every break. A match that took 45 minutes to air probably lasted about half that time. And I figured that somehow, Christian would end up wearing the suit. Yea, the commercials really hurt what was a very very good match.
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Post by bigHEADinc on Nov 23, 2007 12:41:31 GMT -5
Somebody once tried to argue this with the mods, as he was overseas and TNA didn't air until a week or two after it's air date. The mods said that, while they have international members, it's a majority US board. That means that as soon as something airs in America, it's fair game to use without any sort of spoiler tag.
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Post by greate on Nov 23, 2007 12:43:47 GMT -5
I didn't like it, maybe its because i like AJ but it just felt wrong for Cornette coming out and calling him a "turkey of the year" while the over-the-hillers come out and laugh at this shit. This just made him look stupid nothing else, comidy act is fun for one night but what about longetivity?? Styles has been driven in the mud for far too long now, why the "Angle Alliance" didn't come out earlier to stop this and put a beatdown on somebody? That way Styles would have looked good but he was basicly made an ass on every part of the show. Making someone look stupid is NEVER good for a performer, AJ ran like a bitch from CHRISTIAN and later was made to look like a tool. This sucks.
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Post by emoney3265 on Nov 23, 2007 12:52:14 GMT -5
Yea if it's already aired and you haven't seen it... then don't get online until you've seen it...
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Nov 23, 2007 13:14:50 GMT -5
I didn't like it, maybe its because i like AJ but it just felt wrong for Cornette coming out and calling him a "turkey of the year" while the over-the-hillers come out and laugh at this crap. This just made him look stupid nothing else, comidy act is fun for one night but what about longetivity?? Styles has been driven in the mud for far too long now, why the "Angle Alliance" didn't come out earlier to stop this and put a beatdown on somebody? That way Styles would have looked good but he was basicly made an ass on every part of the show. Making someone look stupid is NEVER good for a performer, AJ ran like a bitch from CHRISTIAN and later was made to look like a tool. This sucks. Yeah, that was the worst part of it all. Styles has been a marquee player for TNA for almost all of its existence, and they make him into a joke. And I didn't get the running away from Christian either.
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Post by greate on Nov 23, 2007 13:29:03 GMT -5
It's ok to be a heel but AJ is a heel who NEVER gets his "moments". It's like he takes an assbeating one night and a humiliation in the second but never gets back at the guy who did it. A cycle of failure for one of the best wrestlers around, its just wrong.
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 23, 2007 13:31:59 GMT -5
So let me get this straight... Instead of titling the thread something like "AJ in the Turkey Bowl Match" or "Who Wore the Turkey Suit?" or something like that, someone would much rather be inconsiderate enough to post a blatant spoiler right in the title. As for the Jericho example argument, that was a spoiler that was known for weeks. Last night's Turkey Bowl result wasn't known information in the weeks leading up to the match. Slightly different scenarios there. The result of a match and the appearance (or return) of a wrestler are two different matters in terms of how they are protected. At this point, just forget it. If you guys are more interested in arguing than in considering that there are simple and easy alternatives to giving away results in thread titles, that isn't an argument I'm interested in taking part in anymore. Thanks for refusing to give the slightest bit of consideration to anyone else. If it was still a spoiler and didn't air yet, then I could understand, but as it aired nationwide and I assume is on many websites including TNA's, it's no longer a spoiler and your best bet would be to avoid the internet because many are going to talk about it or put it in the title of their thread/post. It's not like it's breaking the rules or anything. To put an end to the spoiler chat. In this case no, it is not a spoiler because it aired. As for inconsiderate, if people are inconsiderate enough to completely spoil Jericho's return BEFORE he actually returned, then I would say that yes people are inconsiderate enough to "spoil" something that already happened. Now back to the topic at hand.
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 23, 2007 13:36:00 GMT -5
I thought it was stupid, but it worked on some level. I was really against the stupid turkey stuff, but it was amusing. The classic quote of the night was when Amazing Kong came into the turkey party and Jay Lethal said "I didnt know Kamala was invited." And Shark Boy stuffing food into his mask. I still want to see Amazing Kong/Samoa Joe as the Fiona and Shrek of pro wrestling. heck throw in Kazarian as Puss....in boots. Maybe Elix Skipper as Donkey and then you have a good stable.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Nov 23, 2007 13:36:37 GMT -5
Is it really that much to ask that posters don't put an immediate spoiler in the title of their thread? I'm not saying no one should discuss outcomes -- I'm just saying the outcomes shouldn't be given away in the title of the threads. It's a discussion board about wrestling... were here to discuss... wrestling. If you don't want "spoilers" of stuff that's aired do what I do and just don't go into the board until you see the latest episodes of whatever. On topic, Machismo was hilarious. I didn't mind the Turkey suit at all... I think I'll screen cap some shots from it later on actually. Kurt made an AWESOME pilgrim btw.
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 23, 2007 13:41:17 GMT -5
It was hilarious. i actually enjoyed this episode
Kurt and AJ fighting off Joe and thE Outsiders while dressed as a pilgrim and a turkey. Tomko should have been dressed as a native american or an ear of corn.
Oh and I guess they can explain Tomko's injury as when Hall threw him over the top ripping a muscle.
Puts more fuel to the fire, and Angle's got a new "mystery" partner
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Post by KEJB on Nov 23, 2007 13:43:06 GMT -5
Lethal's Machismo gimmick won me over last night. Now with SoCal as his "Elizabeth" he is Macho Man re-incarnate. I didn't mind the AJ stuff. The match was awesome, and he is kind of goofy anyways.
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 23, 2007 13:43:55 GMT -5
YEah Machismo was so on.
I never knew Jay could be so much like macho. It helps that MAcho is my favorite wrestler, but it's awesome that he gets the gimmick so well.
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 23, 2007 13:55:47 GMT -5
wait wait wait
if Lethal is supposed to be Macho then shouldn't he be treating Val like crap?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 23, 2007 14:34:07 GMT -5
Yeah I feel bad for AJ, less for the turkey suit than for full on running from Christian. He needs to be Phenomenal again.
As has been mentioned, when it's aired, it's no longer a spoiler. Further, I don't consider a not putting a vague title on something that's already aired ( as you would for a spoiler) is inconsiderate at all.
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