Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 23, 2007 14:44:07 GMT -5
I didn't like it, maybe its because i like AJ but it just felt wrong for Cornette coming out and calling him a "turkey of the year" while the over-the-hillers come out and laugh at this crap. This just made him look stupid nothing else, comidy act is fun for one night but what about longetivity?? Styles has been driven in the mud for far too long now, why the "Angle Alliance" didn't come out earlier to stop this and put a beatdown on somebody? That way Styles would have looked good but he was basicly made an ass on every part of the show. Making someone look stupid is NEVER good for a performer, AJ ran like a bitch from CHRISTIAN and later was made to look like a tool. This sucks. I doubt seriously that AJ is hurt by this. He's the goofy side-kick of Angle and is one half of the tag champions. Wrestlers have been humiliated like this before, Trips was pinned by J.R on Raw a couple of years ago and it didn't hurt him in the least as he's one of WWE's most over guys on their brand. The storyline where he ran from Christian was to show that he was trying to avoid him which was the point they wanted to get across. I'm sure the hardcore AJ marks didn't like it, but that was the intent as at the moment AJ is more of a heel than Christian is.
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comahan
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Post by comahan on Nov 23, 2007 14:52:32 GMT -5
I didn't like it, maybe its because i like AJ but it just felt wrong for Cornette coming out and calling him a "turkey of the year" while the over-the-hillers come out and laugh at this crap. This just made him look stupid nothing else, comedy act is fun for one night but what about longevity?? Styles has been driven in the mud for far too long now, why the "Angle Alliance" didn't come out earlier to stop this and put a beat down on somebody? That way Styles would have looked good but he was basically made an ass on every part of the show. Making someone look stupid is NEVER good for a performer, AJ ran like a bitch from CHRISTIAN and later was made to look like a tool. This sucks. I doubt seriously that AJ is hurt by this. He's the goofy side-kick of Angle and is one half of the tag champions. Wrestlers have been humiliated like this before, Trips was pinned by J.R on Raw a couple of years ago and it didn't hurt him in the least as he's one of WWE's most over guys on their brand. The storyline where he ran from Christian was to show that he was trying to avoid him which was the point they wanted to get across. I'm sure the hardcore AJ marks didn't like it, but that was the intent as at the moment AJ is more of a heel than Christian is. Im a hardcore AJ mark and I love his current character and thought the way theyre playing the AJ/Cage thing is great. AJ ran because if Christian got to him, he'd beat AJ's ass because AJ wouldn't fight back, as Christian is like a brother to him. And AJ is still pulling off all of his big spots and what not. He and Tomko retained the tag titles a few weeks ago after AJ hit a springboard 450 splash.
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 23, 2007 15:13:41 GMT -5
he's a much better wrestler now especially in a tag team. He is sorta a billy gunn to me.
Great in tag teams, not so great as a singles guy
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greate
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Post by greate on Nov 23, 2007 15:30:03 GMT -5
I doubt seriously that AJ is hurt by this. He's the goofy side-kick of Angle and is one half of the tag champions.
Wrestlers have been humiliated like this before, Trips was pinned by J.R on Raw a couple of years ago and it didn't hurt him in the least as he's one of WWE's most over guys on their brand.
The storyline where he ran from Christian was to show that he was trying to avoid him which was the point they wanted to get across. I'm sure the hardcore AJ marks didn't like it, but that was the intent as at the moment AJ is more of a heel than Christian is.
It doesn't matter if u read your "pro wrestling que cards" AJ styles still looked like a bitch running away from another guy, if someone has tuned in to iMpact for the last 3 months what do you think his opinion is on AJ Styles eh? NOBODY in wrestling needs to get trashed like AJ did last night, people won't think "Oh but he's a heel and a bad guy thats why he is running" they'll look him and go "Oh look at that loser running out of the arena because his ANOTHER OPPONENT came to the ring". People need to get real and stop treating pro wrestling like its another world with another logic, AJ looked STUPID period. The turkey stuff was awful what Cornette basicly said is that AJ is the jackass of the year while people clearly see his talent its bullshit. As far as Trips goes, he came back stronger the following night and was still winning matches. With AJ it's a trend, he never gets his comebacks and is always on the receiving end, yeah he wins matches but they ruin it with making AJ look like a tool.
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Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 23, 2007 15:32:57 GMT -5
I doubt seriously that AJ is hurt by this. He's the goofy side-kick of Angle and is one half of the tag champions. Wrestlers have been humiliated like this before, Trips was pinned by J.R on Raw a couple of years ago and it didn't hurt him in the least as he's one of WWE's most over guys on their brand. The storyline where he ran from Christian was to show that he was trying to avoid him which was the point they wanted to get across. I'm sure the hardcore AJ marks didn't like it, but that was the intent as at the moment AJ is more of a heel than Christian is. It doesn't matter if u read your "pro wrestling que cards" AJ styles still looked like a bitch running away from another guy, if someone has tuned in to iMpact for the last 3 months what do you think his opinion is on AJ Styles eh? NOBODY in wrestling needs to get trashed like AJ did last night, people won't think "Oh but he's a heel and a bad guy thats why he is running" they'll look him and go "Oh look at that loser running out of the arena because his ANOTHER OPPONENT came to the ring". People need to get real and stop treating pro wrestling like its another world with another logic, AJ looked STUPID period. The turkey stuff was awful what Cornette basicly said is that AJ is the jackass of the year while people clearly see his talent its bullcrap. As far as Trips goes, he came back stronger the following night and was still winning matches. With AJ it's a trend, he never gets his comebacks and is always on the receiving end, yeah he wins matches but they ruin it with making AJ look like a tool. So what? Ric Flair and other heels have run away from faces all the time. Flair had his robe cut, dressed as a woman to attack Randy Savage and was put in a mental home, and the dude is still over. And from what I hear of AJ's tours in other promotions outside of TNA, he gets one of the bigger pops of the night, so it's not people are suddenly saying he's a nobody. He'll be just fine,it's not the end of the world.
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Reverend BTY
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 23, 2007 16:24:20 GMT -5
"I'd rather be a turkey than a Samoan. Hahahahaha" Best part of the segment.
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greate
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Post by greate on Nov 23, 2007 16:58:42 GMT -5
So what? Ric Flair and other heels have run away from faces all the time.
Flair had his robe cut, dressed as a woman to attack Randy Savage and was put in a mental home, and the dude is still over.
Nostalgia, an ability to forget things that sucked thats why Ric Flair is still over. People remember accomplishments i've always said it, but if AJ continues to roll on like this its not gonna end well people will forget that he was once "Phenomenal".
And from what I hear of AJ's tours in other promotions outside of TNA, he gets one of the bigger pops of the night, so it's not people are suddenly saying he's a nobody. He'll be just fine,it's not the end of the world.
It's not the end of the world, i just didn't like it but as i said before its propably because i like AJ and hate to see him "lose" every time. It's like the bad overweights the fact he wins most of his matches i hate to see such an "MVP" suffer like this.
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Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 23, 2007 17:11:31 GMT -5
So what? Ric Flair and other heels have run away from faces all the time. Flair had his robe cut, dressed as a woman to attack Randy Savage and was put in a mental home, and the dude is still over. Nostalgia, an ability to forget things that sucked thats why Ric Flair is still over. People remember accomplishments i've always said it, but if AJ continues to roll on like this its not gonna end well people will forget that he was once "Phenomenal". And from what I hear of AJ's tours in other promotions outside of TNA, he gets one of the bigger pops of the night, so it's not people are suddenly saying he's a nobody. He'll be just fine,it's not the end of the world. It's not the end of the world, i just didn't like it but as i said before its propably because i like AJ and hate to see him "lose" every time. It's like the bad overweights the fact he wins most of his matches i hate to see such an "MVP" suffer like this. As he is one of TNA's most over superstars, he'll be just fine. A lot of wrestlers have done things that are humiliating and recovered just fine. It's not like they're going to call him the Red Rooster from here on out.
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Post by kitsunestar on Nov 23, 2007 18:24:37 GMT -5
It's not like they're going to call him the Red Rooster from here on out. Nope. Just Gooker Jr.
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Post by messiah on Nov 23, 2007 18:26:44 GMT -5
Are you people 8 years old? Seriously? It's a one off gag where a HEEL was made to look life a fool! Wow, talk about controversial!
There was a ridiculous column I read on Wrestleview where the guy made it out to be the worst decision TNA ever made. It was like Kent Jones had learned to write and possibly read.
This is such a non-event that I feel silly having even commented on it.
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greate
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Post by greate on Nov 24, 2007 12:36:08 GMT -5
Are you people 8 years old? Seriously? It's a one off gag where a HEEL was made to look life a fool! Wow, talk about controversial!
There was a ridiculous column I read on Wrestleview where the guy made it out to be the worst decision TNA ever made. It was like Kent Jones had learned to write and possibly read.
This is such a non-event that I feel silly having even commented on it.
People here make 15 page discussions when a "rumor" about some lame backstage accident comes out or when someone is suspected to be a tranny so no i dont find this ridicilous. Before you post check your facts, i talked about how TNA has handled AJ for a long time now, i got the right to discuss whatever i want.
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Post by skiller on Nov 24, 2007 13:44:38 GMT -5
"I'd rather be a jackass than a Samoan. Hahahahaha" Best part of the segment. Fixed. But yeah, I agree with you. And I absolutely love AJ's new character. Face AJ was becoming beyond Stale.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 24, 2007 14:27:30 GMT -5
AJ lost a humiliation stipulation match to Samoa Joe, a guy who is written to be one of the baddest asses among TNA's bad asses, and looked very strong during the match.
And he protested putting on the turkey suit the whole time, trying to maintain his dignity, like a good heel.
He'll be fine.
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Post by erisi236 on Nov 24, 2007 14:51:13 GMT -5
TNA Wrestlers: It doesn't matter how over you are, or if you're a Champion and part of the Main Event, if we don't like your character you're being buried.
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