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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Nov 25, 2007 12:55:56 GMT -5
Holy crap.... That is one brutal drop-kick. I can only imagine how ruthless the male wrestlers can be. It's understandable why the instructor was so hard on the girl,because the Japanese are extraordinarily serious about preserving the business,but that was a merciless kick.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 25, 2007 12:56:50 GMT -5
Holy crap.... That is one brutal drop-kick. I can only imagine how brutal the male wrestlers can be. It's understandable why the instructor was so hard on the girl,because the Japanese are extraordinarily serious about preserving the business,but that was a merciless kick. If anything, the women tend to be tougher, since they feel they have more to prove.
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Post by twiggy101 on Nov 25, 2007 13:21:18 GMT -5
That was cool.
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Post by samachine on Nov 25, 2007 13:40:34 GMT -5
Watch Tiger Mask I, he is by far the worst.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 25, 2007 13:48:41 GMT -5
Watch Tiger Mask I, he is by far the worst. What, in training? I forget: didn't he end up having a good MMA career as well?
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Post by samachine on Nov 25, 2007 13:51:04 GMT -5
Watch Tiger Mask I, he is by far the worst. What, in training? I forget: didn't he end up having a good MMA career as well? I don't know, I just know they did a documentary on his training and he would make you beg for Holly or JBL
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 25, 2007 13:55:25 GMT -5
What, in training? I forget: didn't he end up having a good MMA career as well? I don't know, I just know they did a documentary on his training and he would make you beg for Holly or JBL Ohhh, yeah, I remember now. He founded Shooto, shoot wrestling meets MMA, so to speak. Yeah, that's gotta be brutal.
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 25, 2007 14:47:52 GMT -5
The thing is though, American wrestlers go over to Japan all the time. And they usually come back in one peice. Chyna even went over there and thought against the men, for Goodness sake, and as useless as she is, you'd think she'd have been killed over there.
I think it's tougher, but a lot of it is about image.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Nov 25, 2007 15:02:27 GMT -5
That was lame, the trainer NO SELLS several drop kicks, then intentionally injures the trainee, there was NO point to any of that. It was just stupid bully power driven garbage
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 25, 2007 15:11:26 GMT -5
The thing is though, American wrestlers go over to Japan all the time. And they usually come back in one peice. Chyna even went over there and thought against the men, for Goodness sake, and as useless as she is, you'd think she'd have been killed over there. I think it's tougher, but a lot of it is about image. Probably. I think a lot of it is trying to instill respect, and teaching them how to defend themselves. Once you learn how to work brutal, you won't often need to.
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 25, 2007 15:22:30 GMT -5
Amazing/Awesome kong trained over there didn't she?
She might have got an easier time of it though. She's so physically imposing you think they'd be scared to shoot on her.
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Post by honsou on Nov 25, 2007 15:56:24 GMT -5
I don't know, I just know they did a documentary on his training and he would make you beg for Holly or JBL Ohhh, yeah, I remember now. He founded Shooto, shoot wrestling meets MMA, so to speak. Yeah, that's gotta be brutal. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IseGoaasjEHOLY f***! Now thats brutal.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 25, 2007 16:08:00 GMT -5
Ohhh, yeah, I remember now. He founded Shooto, shoot wrestling meets MMA, so to speak. Yeah, that's gotta be brutal. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IseGoaasjEHOLY smurf! Now thats brutal. Really. Though, that is MMA, after all.
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Post by ghettooverlord on Nov 25, 2007 16:11:56 GMT -5
As ridiculous as it is to condone this shit, that's they way they view it: if you can't handle this kind of punishment in a sport and culture where being an absolutely tough mother f***er is the norm, you'll get killed when it comes time to view the results. That's the way they see it, it's their culture, we might be appalled by it, but this is how they do business.
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Post by American Nightmare on Nov 25, 2007 17:11:55 GMT -5
As ridiculous as it is to condone this crap, that's they way they view it: if you can't handle this kind of punishment in a sport and culture where being an absolutely tough mother smurfer is the norm, you'll get killed when it comes time to view the results. That's the way they see it, it's their culture, we might be appalled by it, but this is how they do business. couldnt have said it better myself
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 25, 2007 17:38:53 GMT -5
Shooto is my favorite Japanese MMA company. Best fights.
Oh and I like this kind of training it makes the wrestlers more humble.
I wish more guys would be trained like this to learn respect.
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Post by ghettooverlord on Nov 25, 2007 17:50:56 GMT -5
As ridiculous as it is to condone this crap, that's they way they view it: if you can't handle this kind of punishment in a sport and culture where being an absolutely tough mother smurfer is the norm, you'll get killed when it comes time to view the results. That's the way they see it, it's their culture, we might be appalled by it, but this is how they do business. couldnt have said it better myself <3 Shooto is my favorite Japanese MMA company. Best fights. Oh and I like this kind of training it makes the wrestlers more humble. I wish more guys would be trained like this to learn respect. Teddy Hart would show up in one of his ridiculous outfits and his stomach will be killing him by the end of the day after he's forced to eat it.
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Post by infrared on Nov 25, 2007 17:52:31 GMT -5
I wish more guys would be trained like this to learn respect. I hate this "learn respect" s***, I really do. Wrestling veterans seem to be under the illusion that all rookies are snot-nosed little chavs that have a silver spoon in their mouth and don't give a s*** about wrestling and just want to get on TV. They're not.
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Post by DJ Peapod on Nov 25, 2007 18:29:11 GMT -5
Geez...that's all I got to say!
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Post by American Nightmare on Nov 25, 2007 19:23:42 GMT -5
I wish more guys would be trained like this to learn respect. I hate this "learn respect" s***, I really do. Wrestling veterans seem to be under the illusion that all rookies are snot-nosed little chavs that have a silver spoon in their mouth and don't give a s*** about wrestling and just want to get on TV. They're not.cuz they are bro. I came into training with 100% respect for the vets. Most guys are snot nosed jerks. They need to be humbled on the business. And trust me, this is NOTHING like it was 50-60 years ago, when almost 2 years in you were told the business WASNT a shoot.
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