andrew8798
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 28, 2007 18:49:38 GMT -5
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Post by tibbo on Nov 28, 2007 20:02:09 GMT -5
Awesome
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 6:46:27 GMT -5
Wow that match sucked, and the finish came off horribly and in a very anticlimactic way too. The ropes breaking hurt it a lot, but still just as a match it wasn't very good. Feels like a bad house show match where everything went wrong rather than something that should've aired on NBC. On many levels it's a good thing that it didn't air.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 6:50:09 GMT -5
It's also amazing this is going to be released by WWE without edits made. On part 2, at 6:40 you can hear them say "Biz-ack driz-op him. Stiz-op me from tiz-agging."
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Post by krill on Nov 29, 2007 8:15:35 GMT -5
at about 6:20 in the third one bret stiffs marty for botching a simple crossover.
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Post by gimmieabreakbrain on Nov 29, 2007 8:34:35 GMT -5
I don't see why they just didn't stop the match and put a new rope on.
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Post by WinOwensWin on Nov 29, 2007 8:53:39 GMT -5
My fiancee is picking the DVD up for me tomorrow, so I'm really psyched to see this match.
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Post by Adam Pacman Khan (akkilla) on Nov 30, 2007 0:26:10 GMT -5
this is like a cena match without the deeper voices booing.
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Post by Aceorton on Nov 30, 2007 3:34:54 GMT -5
Wow that match sucked, and the finish came off horribly and in a very anticlimactic way too. The ropes breaking hurt it a lot, but still just as a match it wasn't very good. Feels like a bad house show match where everything went wrong rather than something that should've aired on NBC. On many levels it's a good thing that it didn't air. Oh, come on. Overall, this isn't bad at all. A couple of sloppy spots in the early going, but other than that ugly crossover mess in Part III, they did a great job recovering and working everything into the feel of the match. These guys all knew how to work on the fly. Some of the wrestlers today would let a little spot miscommunication kill their whole match. And the finish looked fine to me. Not having commentary makes this a tougher sell for some people, I'm sure. You know McMahon and Ventura would have been going nuts if this had aired on NBC, and the crowd noise almost certainly would have been sweetened. If not for the rope rendering this a dud, it would have been remembered fondly today. I'm sure of it. EDIT: Here's how good a job I think they did: I didn't even realize the rope had broken in the second fall until I went back and looked for it. I was waiting for it to happen in the third fall.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2007 3:39:51 GMT -5
Rewatch the sloppy final minute of the match from about 7 minutes in to part 3 until the finish... including but not limited to Bret hitting the ropes and then stopping mid ring before anyone actually stopped him... that is not a finish worthy of a major title change on network television.
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Post by Aceorton on Nov 30, 2007 3:51:26 GMT -5
Rewatch the sloppy final minute of the match from about 7 minutes in to part 3 until the finish... including but not limited to Bret hitting the ropes and then stopping mid ring before anyone actually stopped him... that is not a finish worthy of a major title change on network television. Starting at 7:00, the Hart Foundation do two signature spots, the shoulder tackle in the corner and the (unsuccessful) reverse slam onto Jannetty, and I don't notice any noteworthy screwing up. At the finish, I don't see Bret stopping nonsensically. I see him killing his own momentum because Michaels just came in over the top with the dropkick, and Jannetty is no longer in position to be clotheslined. A split-second later, Bret is tackled around the legs, keeping him from breaking up this surprise pinfall. If it takes going back and rewinding to come up with criticism, then maybe it's not that terrible.
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Post by bobolebowski on Nov 30, 2007 19:37:08 GMT -5
After the rope breaks you can hear Neidhart freak out
someone I believe it was Bret you can hear say "The rope broke"
and Neidhart goes...G** DAMMIT!....SON OF A B**CH!
then calmly goes and stands on the side of the ring to wait for a tag
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Dec 1, 2007 13:22:44 GMT -5
Wow that match sucked, and the finish came off horribly and in a very anticlimactic way too. The ropes breaking hurt it a lot, but still just as a match it wasn't very good. Feels like a bad house show match where everything went wrong rather than something that should've aired on NBC. On many levels it's a good thing that it didn't air. You're just saying that to be different? Look at tibbo's avatar before ranting about what should and shouldn't be aired. Oh, and the reason it wasn't aired was because at the time, Anvil's contract had expired and it wasn't certain he would re-sign. So they had to take the titles off the Harts. However, after this match, and before its airing, Anvil re-signed, so they retconned this match and it never happened for TV audiences, and the Hart Foundation were still WWF Tag Team champions.
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Post by brutuscheesecake on Dec 1, 2007 15:37:04 GMT -5
What gave Bret the right to stiff Marty like that? What was Hitman a ring legend by 1990?
It was weird watching him run the ropes right before the botch, he runs too upright.
nevermind the fact that hitman botched it intially by laying the wrong way on the intial irish whip into the ropes.
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