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Post by Sir Nintendo on Dec 3, 2007 11:43:14 GMT -5
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Post by bobolebowski on Dec 3, 2007 12:21:44 GMT -5
Im sorry but I disagree....to me Konnan has put on some great matches but I think he half asses a lot of the time. Im not just talking about his infamous ROH match where he walked through the whole thing either. I seriously think he just half asses a lot of his work. He can deliever a promo. But I dont think hes underrated at all.
One of my favorite matches he had was against Eddie Guerrero at Uncensored 96 though. But yeah sorry....I dont think hes THAT great.
EDIT: I do agree that hes put on good matches....but hes just one of those guys that never really got better....He peaked then kind of just got worse. And to me hes also been sort of a prima-donna. Haha I know it sounds like im bashing Konnan here...but I mean I just dont think hes underrated. Im done now though
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 3, 2007 13:20:39 GMT -5
How ironic that Botchamania 31 just came out showing us a completely horrible Konnan performance from WCW.
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Post by bobolebowski on Dec 3, 2007 13:26:27 GMT -5
When he goes all out he can be good, but he rarely ever did. He looked like he half cared, thats why his matches were crap.
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Post by BHB on Dec 3, 2007 14:52:59 GMT -5
He seemed like he wasn't trying in that video.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 3, 2007 15:14:49 GMT -5
He was alright, but he is far more valuable for his knwledge of wrestling. More of a teacher than anything else, which is still something to be very proud of.
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Post by Sir Nintendo on Dec 3, 2007 20:28:22 GMT -5
Well maybe I just don't remember Konnan as being an awesome power-lucha wrestler, since when I was 13 I cared about Hogan and Nash in the nWo, but knowing what he has done for luchadores in America, and also what he has done in Mexico, coupled with the fact that he could mat wrestle and do some excellent high risk moves, I can see why he is the Hulk Hogan of Mexico.
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Post by machinegun on Dec 3, 2007 20:29:31 GMT -5
I liked him in LAX
That's about it
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Post by romafan87 on Dec 3, 2007 21:03:26 GMT -5
How ironic that Botchamania 31 just came out showing us a completely horrible Konnan performance from WCW. To be fair, I've heard that match is infamous for OMG not wanting to sell any of Konnan's offense. I think I heard it in the Konnan shoot. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 3, 2007 21:09:22 GMT -5
How ironic that Botchamania 31 just came out showing us a completely horrible Konnan performance from WCW. To be fair, I've heard that match is infamous for OMG not wanting to sell any of Konnan's offense. I think I heard it in the Konnan shoot. Well honestly, why would Konnan take the blame for it being a bad match? 3 sides to every story but only one angle....or something. |
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Post by bobolebowski on Dec 3, 2007 21:36:47 GMT -5
To be fair, I've heard that match is infamous for OMG not wanting to sell any of Konnan's offense. I think I heard it in the Konnan shoot. Well honestly, why would Konnan take the blame for it being a bad match? 3 sides to every story but only one angle....or something. yeah you know Konnan wont take the blame, but my question is who the hell decided to put Konnan in there with the One Man Gang in the first place. You couldnt possibly expect a decent match looking at that on paper. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 3, 2007 21:40:18 GMT -5
Well honestly, why would Konnan take the blame for it being a bad match? 3 sides to every story but only one angle....or something. yeah you know Konnan wont take the blame, but my question is who the hell decided to put Konnan in there with the One Man Gang in the first place. You couldnt possibly expect a decent match looking at that on paper. it was to get the U.S. title off Gang and onto Konnan or possibly a rematch for that title, I can't remember the exact details. |
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Post by bobolebowski on Dec 3, 2007 22:04:29 GMT -5
Whats funny is I have Starrcade 95 which was the World Cup of Wrestling WCW vs New Japan...and its got advertised One Man Gang vs Konnan on there but they cut it from the commercial release...was it because the match was attrocious?
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 3, 2007 22:07:36 GMT -5
Whats funny is I have Starrcade 95 which was the World Cup of Wrestling WCW vs New Japan...and its got advertised One Man Gang vs Konnan on there but they cut it from the commercial release...was it because the match was attrocious? that's odd because Kensuke Sasaki vs One Man Gang supposedly happened at that PPV |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 3, 2007 22:10:02 GMT -5
Whats funny is I have Starrcade 95 which was the World Cup of Wrestling WCW vs New Japan...and its got advertised One Man Gang vs Konnan on there but they cut it from the commercial release...was it because the match was attrocious? that's odd because Kensuke Sasaki vs One Man Gang supposedly happened at that PPV I had the PPV version of Starrcade and never saw Sasaki vs.Gang on the show. |
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Post by Tyfo on Dec 3, 2007 22:34:45 GMT -5
Whats funny is I have Starrcade 95 which was the World Cup of Wrestling WCW vs New Japan...and its got advertised One Man Gang vs Konnan on there but they cut it from the commercial release...was it because the match was attrocious? that's odd because Kensuke Sasaki vs One Man Gang supposedly happened at that PPV Sasaki faces, I believe, Sting as part of the WCW vs. New Japan World Cup, and Sasaski is the US Champion still. If I remember right, One Man Gang beats Sasaki for the US title about a week after Starrcade. Konnan then defeated OMG for the US title in early January of 96 on either Main Event or Worldwide. Thats off the top of my head, so im not 100% positive. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 3, 2007 22:49:09 GMT -5
that's odd because Kensuke Sasaki vs One Man Gang supposedly happened at that PPV Sasaki faces, I believe, Sting as part of the WCW vs. New Japan World Cup, and Sasaski is the US Champion still. If I remember right, One Man Gang beats Sasaki for the US title about a week after Starrcade. Konnan then defeated OMG for the US title in early January of 96 on either Main Event or Worldwide. Thats off the top of my head, so im not 100% positive. Someone really screwed up the Starrcade 95 entry on Wikipedia then. |
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Post by 2 time pro bowler Fred Dryer on Dec 3, 2007 22:49:53 GMT -5
that's odd because Kensuke Sasaki vs One Man Gang supposedly happened at that PPV Sasaki faces, I believe, Sting as part of the WCW vs. New Japan World Cup, and Sasaski is the US Champion still. If I remember right, One Man Gang beats Sasaki for the US title about a week after Starrcade. Konnan then defeated OMG for the US title in early January of 96 on either Main Event or Worldwide. Thats off the top of my head, so im not 100% positive. Man, the good old days when those of us without cable could still see a title change, even on the C and D shows. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 3, 2007 22:51:43 GMT -5
Actually the PWI Almanac that I have says that Gang/Sasaki took place at the PPV but didn't air on the PPV. That explains it
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Post by Tyfo on Dec 3, 2007 23:05:25 GMT -5
Actually the PWI Almanac that I have says that Gang/Sasaki took place at the PPV but didn't air on the PPV. That explains it They may have taped it there and then aired it on tv the next week or something then. I dont remember if it was Gang beating Sasaki or Konnan beating Gang, but it seems like one of the matches they made a big deal out of, like it happened at a house show or something and they were hyping up the footage. I may be thinking of something else though. |
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