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Post by Daemon on Dec 4, 2007 13:51:11 GMT -5
I didn't know whether to put this so I just put it here since it IS kind of a wrestling question... I hope. Anyway lets do this.
Im just wondering, was Mil Mascaras really that bad? I mean you have Mick Foley saying Mil show up at the deadline to the match because he didn't want to hang around the arena for an extra hour or something and sold moves poorly during the match, even taking a back breaker where he ended up sitting on his butt. And Chris Jericho talks about how the guy was an ego maniac. Seriously I have only seen like, one match of his and it was a 6 man tag so it wasn't surprising he didn't do a whole hell of a lot during the match so I ask those who would know better then I, was he really that bad? Was he better in his youth or was he always a prick?
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 4, 2007 14:24:43 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan of what I've seen, but then, honestly, the stuff I've seen was from the latter end of his career. I have no clue how he was in his prime.
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Post by rzombie1988 on Dec 4, 2007 15:39:50 GMT -5
Mil used to be a very good mat-wrestler. He used to be able to put on good matches, and has always been charismatic. There's a match of his against The Destroyer on clickwrestle which is worth your time.
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Post by Hypnotix on Dec 4, 2007 18:20:21 GMT -5
All I know of him is that he drives a Mercedes and pulls off a mean Mexican surfboard.
Thank you, Cheap Seats.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2007 19:00:45 GMT -5
Most of the time when his name comes up in shoot videos and interviews, commentaries by wrestlers, etc. that I've seen, he's described as a bastard. No one ever takes away from his ability, even when he's in his 60's, just the way he interacts with people inside and outside the ring.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 4, 2007 19:06:46 GMT -5
All I know of him is that he drives a Mercedes and pulls off a mean Mexican surfboard. Thank you, Cheap Seats. It's just your run of the Mil Mascaras joke.
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Post by OtisMaximus on Dec 5, 2007 1:34:12 GMT -5
In his younger day yes he was very good in the ring, out of the ring no idea.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 5, 2007 1:54:37 GMT -5
I, too, have only seen a few of his matches from later in his career and have no idea what his earlier matches were like. I just wanted to say is that I've seen more of his brother's matches, Dos Caras, and he's much more entertaining in the ring.
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Post by silverking on Dec 5, 2007 3:26:42 GMT -5
He's great. I second the Destroyer matches, but he's also had good ones with Ultimo Dragon, Canek, Tiger Mask, Fujinami, Inoki and Dos Caras.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Dec 5, 2007 18:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2007 3:55:47 GMT -5
He avoided "doing the job like a man" at the 1997 Royal Rumble, by pretending not to know the rules; eliminating himself by jumping off the top rope to the floor.
Okay, bad example. That was pretty neat seeing a guy older than God himself do that kinda move.
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Post by Voldemar H. "Brak" Guerta on Dec 6, 2007 15:27:34 GMT -5
I consider him the "Hulk Hogan of Lucha": most fans of his from the old days don't really care how big of a dick..cheese...burger he is in real life, and instead praise him for what he's done for Lucha as a whole. Personally, I like Hogan more than Mil Mascaras because what I've heard and read about Mascaras has sounded more dickish and dastardly than what Hogan's done over his career.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Dec 6, 2007 17:21:21 GMT -5
I consider him the "Hulk Hogan of Lucha": most fans of his from the old days don't really care how big of a dick..cheese...burger he is in real life, and instead praise him for what he's done for Lucha as a whole. Personally, I like Hogan more than Mil Mascaras because what I've heard and read about Mascaras has sounded more dickish and dastardly than what Hogan's done over his career. I have nothing to add regarding Mil Mascaras.... but I have to give you kudos for the Airheads reference.
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Post by darthpipes on Dec 6, 2007 21:51:34 GMT -5
I've heard one big complaint about him was that he was one of the worst sellers in the business. He hated having to sell for anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2007 22:16:52 GMT -5
Yeah, he did pretty much no-sell the Foley's backbreaker. Damn, getting up before Foley's elbow drop on the outside was a dick thing to do. Real sick bump afterwards; I wonder if Foley said anything to him backstage after that?
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Post by Daemon on Dec 7, 2007 11:42:52 GMT -5
Yeah, he did pretty much no-sell the Foley's backbreaker. Damn, getting up before Foley's elbow drop on the outside was a dick thing to do. Real sick bump afterwards; I wonder if Foley said anything to him backstage after that? I remember that. Didn't he end up sitting up after taking that move? Oh and another question, did he REALLY walk around on his tip toes or something? Cause Foley and Jericho BOTH mentioned it but just like his older matches never really noticed it.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Dec 7, 2007 23:17:38 GMT -5
I don't know about the tip-toes thing, but he definitely was notorious for sucking in his stomach all the time.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 7, 2007 23:29:07 GMT -5
The analogy between him and Hogan is pretty good. Mascaras isn't bad but he doesn't sell or job. In fact the match he lost a couple weeks ago was the first one in years.
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Post by Daemon on Dec 8, 2007 16:20:51 GMT -5
I don't know about the tip-toes thing, but he definitely was notorious for sucking in his stomach all the time. That's a new one to me. He really does that? Damn even HOGAN doesn't do that!
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