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Post by twiggy101 on Dec 9, 2007 11:37:11 GMT -5
Damn. I kill the man who invented Pay-Per-View.
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Mr.K-itty
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Post by Mr.K-itty on Dec 9, 2007 11:44:49 GMT -5
im not super huge into the mma scene...what is this Mir accident im hearing of?? im assuming he was out of action for a good amount of time? was it as serious injury???
tho i think im with the most of you and will go with the vet Mir over brock...mainly cuz i never really liked brock
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Post by voiceboxisback on Dec 9, 2007 11:59:33 GMT -5
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Post by voiceboxisback on Dec 9, 2007 12:01:41 GMT -5
im not super huge into the mma scene...what is this Mir accident im hearing of?? im assuming he was out of action for a good amount of time? was it as serious injury??? tho i think im with the most of you and will go with the vet Mir over brock...mainly cuz i never really liked brock It was a motorcycle crash, was out for almost a year, and yes it was serious.... Mir hasn't been the same since
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Post by Mr Ismaeal Naji on Dec 9, 2007 12:19:21 GMT -5
you guys do remember brock was also in a motorcycle crash, didn't slow him down
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Post by voiceboxisback on Dec 9, 2007 12:34:17 GMT -5
you guys do remember brock was also in a motorcycle crash, didn't slow him down Brock didn't almost die, and come back with the cardio of a involute, and loss of speed like Mir did either.
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Post by NIXON on Dec 9, 2007 12:39:18 GMT -5
Man, that was really funny to me for some reason, Nice find.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Dec 9, 2007 12:43:05 GMT -5
Honestly, that'd explain quite a bit about Fedor.
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Dec 9, 2007 12:45:35 GMT -5
Brock will tap...
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Post by charlie ford on Dec 9, 2007 12:56:36 GMT -5
you have to look at it like this though this is brocks 2 mma fight. I mean he's shown nothing cause in he's first fight he was fighting a pathdic fighter who seem to buy in to brocks hype just as much as brock does. He's fighting a former world champ. Crash or no crash mir can still tap out anyone.You are no good in less you have a half decent ground defence. Which i don't think he will. Look at huston alexeander the hype train came to a crashing stop once he was on he's back.
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Post by KimberlyPagesBoyToy on Dec 9, 2007 14:26:33 GMT -5
I find it interesting that Mir has defeated a pro wrestler before in Tank Abbott (his first fight back in MMA after WCW folded). Now Tank is no Brock by any means but it proves Mir does have experience in defeating wrestlers from major companies.
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Post by voiceboxisback on Dec 9, 2007 15:38:07 GMT -5
you have to look at it like this though this is brocks 2 mma fight. I mean he's shown nothing cause in he's first fight he was fighting a pathdic fighter who seem to buy in to brocks hype just as much as brock does. He's fighting a former world champ. Crash or no crash mir can still tap out anyone.You are no good in less you have a half decent ground defence. Which i don't think he will. Look at huston alexeander the hype train came to a crashing stop once he was on he's back. Did you seriously just compare Houston Alexander to Brock Lesnar? Brock's ground game is light years ahead of Houston's! Brock was incredible as an amateur wrestler, while Houston never did amateur wrestling.
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 9, 2007 22:56:20 GMT -5
The only way MMA fans will accept brock is if he's beat down, and fights back triumphantly.
That's the only way for Brock to establish himself. Mir takes an early fall and goes down, MMA enthusiast will claim "fixed fight" and screwy finish.
I'm hoping Brock wins and all the wrestling fans get pissed because "Somebody who used to business to get rich" becomes a success in something other than wrestling, write a post about how mad they are brock won. Or they mock Brock for losing, even if it's a close fight. lolz
brock's been training for this since 2005. He's also been training with Militich, the Gracies, and the Minesota MMA group.
I think he's really well trained.
He has that one fight, but he's got a HUGE ego.
I think he has all the potential in the world. Potential doesn't equal talent though.
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Post by voiceboxisback on Dec 9, 2007 23:25:10 GMT -5
The only way MMA fans will accept brock is if he's beat down, and fights back triumphantly. That's the only way for Brock to establish himself. Mir takes an early fall and goes down, MMA enthusiast will claim "fixed fight" and screwy finish. I'm hoping Brock wins and all the wrestling fans get pissed because "Somebody who used to business to get rich" becomes a success in something other than wrestling, write a post about how mad they are brock won. Or they mock Brock for losing, even if it's a close fight. lolz brock's been training for this since 2005. He's also been training with Militich, the Gracies, and the Minesota MMA group. I think he's really well trained. He has that one fight, but he's got a HUGE ego. I think he has all the potential in the world. Potential doesn't equal talent though. Militich said he was the fastest learner he had ever seen, and is training at Sherk's camp now
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 9, 2007 23:27:54 GMT -5
yeah that gets me the most excited.
I mean Hughes has done real well against BJJ guys, and i'm thinking that they are using hughes as a sort of blue print,
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Post by voiceboxisback on Dec 9, 2007 23:32:30 GMT -5
yeah that gets me the most excited. I mean Hughes has done real well against BJJ guys, and i'm thinking that they are using hughes as a sort of blue print, Yeah...Why is everyone acting like Mir is the god of BJJ? I mean what has he done really besides Toe-Hold a overrated brawler with no submission skills in Tank Abbot, and break Sylvia's arm? That's literally all he did, and he hasn't been the same since the accident, cardio has been bad, and speed/submissions have been slowed considerably. The people saying that he will manhandle, and tap Brock are either a)Brock-Haters or b)Blind. Brock by GnP
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Post by Tyfo on Dec 9, 2007 23:42:19 GMT -5
The only way MMA fans will accept brock is if he's beat down, and fights back triumphantly. That's the only way for Brock to establish himself. Mir takes an early fall and goes down, MMA enthusiast will claim "fixed fight" and screwy finish. I'm hoping Brock wins and all the wrestling fans get pissed because "Somebody who used to business to get rich" becomes a success in something other than wrestling, write a post about how mad they are brock won. Or they mock Brock for losing, even if it's a close fight. lolz brock's been training for this since 2005. He's also been training with Militich, the Gracies, and the Minesota MMA group. I think he's really well trained. He has that one fight, but he's got a HUGE ego. I think he has all the potential in the world. Potential doesn't equal talent though. Im the exact opposite, I want Brock to win. I love wrestling and MMA as well, but pro wrestling will always be #1 to me. My friends who only care for MMA do nothing but cut down wrestling and any and all wrestlers as fakes, etc. They've spent the last 2 months talking about how the phony wrestling guy (Lesnar) is gonna get his ass kicked by a "real athlete". This is the chance to shut them up, and I hope Brock's the guy to do it. I want him to dominate anyone he faces. That may be wishful thinking, but I have hope. I just dont understand how there are people STILL unwilling to admit that wrestlers ARE athletes.
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Post by Edison taps to the ARMBAR! on Dec 10, 2007 1:22:11 GMT -5
In this fight I could care less if Brock was a pro wrestler or a school nurse. It's a non issue.
I think there is alot of blind information in this thread, and judgements on the fight coming from people with no knowledge, or little knowledge of MMA. Really, this fight is up in the air. But I still say Mir has the experience factor over Brock. He is trained on the ground, so he is capable of going to the mat with Brock. Will Mir's accident and lingering recovery be a factor? Yes, I say the deciding factor if Brock is able to win. But once again, I doubt that will happen.
After considering it, I wouldn't put money on this fight. Too many variables.
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Post by Cela on Dec 10, 2007 14:22:26 GMT -5
No predictions by me, good fight awaiting.
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Post by Edison taps to the ARMBAR! on Dec 10, 2007 16:25:57 GMT -5
The only way MMA fans will accept brock is if he's beat down, and fights back triumphantly. That's the only way for Brock to establish himself. Mir takes an early fall and goes down, MMA enthusiast will claim "fixed fight" and screwy finish. I'm hoping Brock wins and all the wrestling fans get pissed because "Somebody who used to business to get rich" becomes a success in something other than wrestling, write a post about how mad they are brock won. Or they mock Brock for losing, even if it's a close fight. lolz brock's been training for this since 2005. He's also been training with Militich, the Gracies, and the Minesota MMA group. I think he's really well trained. He has that one fight, but he's got a HUGE ego. I think he has all the potential in the world. Potential doesn't equal talent though. Im the exact opposite, I want Brock to win. I love wrestling and MMA as well, but pro wrestling will always be #1 to me. My friends who only care for MMA do nothing but cut down wrestling and any and all wrestlers as fakes, etc. They've spent the last 2 months talking about how the phony wrestling guy (Lesnar) is gonna get his ass kicked by a "real athlete". This is the chance to shut them up, and I hope Brock's the guy to do it. I want him to dominate anyone he faces. That may be wishful thinking, but I have hope. I just dont understand how there are people STILL unwilling to admit that wrestlers ARE athletes. It's not that people can't admit that wrestlers are athletes (I'm gonna assume you mean amatuer wrestling) it's the fact that guys like Brock Lesnar are linear fighters with only one area of expertise. It's the same reason Cro Cop is getting his ass kicked so much now. You can't just be good at one thing and expect to win an MMA fight. That's why black belts and olympic gold medalists in Judo, Karate, Tae Kwon Do, and collegiate wrestlers walk into MMA gyms and get destroyed by guys with 3 months of training. Until Brock can show (even though he hasn't had the fights yet) that he is capable of more than just wrestling, the doubts will be there. It's like that with any fighter, no matter who they are. People are ragging on Cung Le. Even though he is a world class expert on his feet and with his awesome Sanshou take downs, he's yet to fight on the ground or have any ground game at all. Plus, Brock is cocky. He thinks he's gonna be able to walk into MMA and destroy everyone. Well, problem his, unlike in wrestling, you can punch and elbow a guy who takes you down.
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