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Post by jamofpearls on Dec 14, 2007 17:35:29 GMT -5
I've always wondered why American wrestlers either start out their career, or continue it in Japan. I'm thinking of people like Beniot, and Vader. Is there much more money to be made there, or is it a great place to hone your talent? Or some other reason I'm not thinking of?
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 14, 2007 17:38:53 GMT -5
great place to hone your talent, and pro wrestling is more respected in Japan than it is in the US
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Post by jamofpearls on Dec 14, 2007 17:41:48 GMT -5
great place to hone your talent, and pro wrestling is more respected in Japan than it is in the US Yeah, i see that. Many people here view it as a joke. Why is it a place to work on your skills? Are there better teachers there? |
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Post by Johnny on Dec 14, 2007 17:42:36 GMT -5
The money is awesome in Japan.
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Post by Gopher Mod on Dec 14, 2007 17:53:02 GMT -5
That, and the wrestlers that started in the America's working for WWF/WWE/WCW could actually show that they are not just one dimensional wrestlers.
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Post by jamofpearls on Dec 14, 2007 17:55:31 GMT -5
That, and the wrestlers that started in the America's working for WWF/WWE/WCW could actually show that they are not just one dimensional wrestlers. kind of like hogan i'm guessing. |
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Post by sexualvanilla on Dec 14, 2007 18:06:48 GMT -5
One of the big selling points way back when was that the money was awesome and they run in tours, where you're wrestling every night for a few weeks, then off for a few weeks and if you were consistently booked, you could make a good living and not have to wrestle as often. From what I've heard, the money isn't as good nowadays since there are so many companies but it's still better than what most American promoters can pay
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Post by Square on Dec 14, 2007 18:09:55 GMT -5
That, and the wrestlers that started in the America's working for WWF/WWE/WCW could actually show that they are not just one dimensional wrestlers. kind of like hogan i'm guessing. Moreso Tomko |
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Post by kswolf on Dec 14, 2007 18:11:35 GMT -5
Yep, at one time the money in Japan was a hell of a lot better than the money in North America - even compared to WWE. I'm not so sure about that today though, as the Japanese wrestling industry is in the middle of a slump.
The other major factor is the easier touring schedule. The major Japanese promotions tour for 2-4 weeks, and then take 2-4 weeks off, giving the wrestlers a lot of time to rest up and heal.
Better money and an easier work load definitely gives it an edge over the NA scene.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Dec 14, 2007 18:18:44 GMT -5
Basically because Japan has such higher demand for wrestlers. Japanese promotions love having the bigger American talent (Japanese hosses are rare indeed), and smaller American wrestlers can become bigger stars in Japan due to more prominent Junior Heavyweight divisions. Plus, it still pays better than most American indies - in the McMahonopoly Era, it's the best way to make a living in wrestling aside from the top two (possibly three, it's difficult to count ROH in this group since so many of their wrestlers work NOAH tours).
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Post by rzombie1988 on Dec 14, 2007 19:32:06 GMT -5
Japan is great to wrestle in. They pay your airfare, hotel, and pay for you to wrestle. Their money is worth more then ours so they also pay better unless you go to M-Pro(who is notorious for being cheap). Also, the yakuza(and sometimes fans/buisnessmen) will take you out to dinner. Plus, you don't have to drive anywhere, most of the companies use tour buses.
There's also many dates to work. Think about this, in one week alone, I will go to about 7 out of 12 wrestling shows within the Tokyo/Saitama area. There's something around 40+ running promotions altogether in Japan, so there's also many options.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 14, 2007 20:02:47 GMT -5
Also, the yakuza(and sometimes fans/buisnessmen) will take you out to dinner. unless you're like Mike Awesome and piss them off. then you have to hide in the locker room while the promoters calm them down so they don't kill you |
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 14, 2007 22:56:47 GMT -5
I've always wondered why American wrestlers either start out their career, or continue it in Japan. I'm thinking of people like Beniot, and Vader. Is there much more money to be made there, or is it a great place to hone your talent? Or some other reason I'm not thinking of? Nah it's just those two. Pro Wrestling is just as respected in Japan as it is in America, it's just that pro wrestlers actually appear on variety shows in Japan as opposed to Variety shows not really being big in America. Though I have seen Batista on Maganda Umaga on TFC..eheh. Wrestling is seen not as a sport anywhere in the world. well besides in Lucha Libre, where it's seen as a real battle between good and evil. In Japan it's not a sport, it's more of a break from the doldrums of life. Just like pro wrestling in the states. It's got that Otaku-Fanbase. |
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Post by rzombie1988 on Dec 14, 2007 23:51:28 GMT -5
I've always wondered why American wrestlers either start out their career, or continue it in Japan. I'm thinking of people like Beniot, and Vader. Is there much more money to be made there, or is it a great place to hone your talent? Or some other reason I'm not thinking of? Nah it's just those two. Pro Wrestling is just as respected in Japan as it is in America, it's just that pro wrestlers actually appear on variety shows in Japan as opposed to Variety shows not really being big in America. Though I have seen Batista on Maganda Umaga on TFC..eheh. Wrestling is seen not as a sport anywhere in the world. well besides in Lucha Libre, where it's seen as a real battle between good and evil. In Japan it's not a sport, it's more of a break from the doldrums of life. Just like pro wrestling in the states. It's got that Otaku-Fanbase. Wrestling is seen as a sport in Japan. It's also always been promoted as one, aside from HUSTLE. Wrestling is more respected in Japan. |
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 14, 2007 23:52:29 GMT -5
I know it's more respected, because it's part of the culture.
I just think it's on the same level of respect as anime which is pretty high
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Post by jordenisgood on Dec 15, 2007 0:08:30 GMT -5
I didn't read every post in here, so I might be repeating what others have said, but I'll chime in anyways.
The money is incredible in japan, even during their current slump. If you are a high paid indy guy these days you make around 500$ per show, yet in Japan you can get upwards of 3,500$. That's a big factor.
A lot of guys like the travel schedule too. Actual driving in the busses from town to town sucks I hear, but working 2 weeks out of the month, is awesome. You basically work half of the year, get the other half off, and still make a killing. So that's a huge plus for most guys.
A lot of them actually enjoy working the style more as well. Vader has went on record saying he wanted to leave the WWF when he was there, because he "couldn't be" Vader. He could in Japan though.
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Post by jamofpearls on Dec 15, 2007 16:14:36 GMT -5
This answered alot of questions, thanks guys.
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