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Post by Se7en: Horse That Wrote Poems on Dec 14, 2007 20:34:38 GMT -5
Why couldn't the pink slip case just be empty?
Or getting that case could mean you'd forfeit your pay that month (TNA loves money)?
Or they could have two cases have Tag Title contracts and have either one partner and a partner of his choosing face the champs then the other case winner and his partner could face the champs.
Or two cases could have one half of the Tag Title contract each in them and then the two guys who chose those cases had to tag up to get the shot. That screams of "partners at odds" booking.
You still WON a match, so you're only mildly being "punished" for getting that case. We're not talking 25% of losing your job. Or you
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Dec 14, 2007 20:35:54 GMT -5
How could you hate it? It's four times "Money in the Bank" with a name that is about four times as stupid.
Well, I think there is a general consensus that "on a pole" matches are generally stupid. I belive RD describes them as "whoever can climb up a stick and grab the item the fastest." It's one of those gimmick matches that should have went extinct after the ladder match became popular, and weapons matches became the norm. I mean, guys fighting on ladder seems much more exciting than "He's going for the Cole Miner's Mitt, oh no, he was hit in the back." And using foreign objects in a match just isn't what it used to be. It's somewhat of an out of date gimmick match.
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Post by capnsteve on Dec 14, 2007 21:28:52 GMT -5
Lance Storm was right....this feast for fired crap makes no sense at all. Sorry, but this a pet peeve of mine: What is so hard about typing "Feast or fired"? I see that typo constantly on the news sites and one site even wrote "feast of fire" (which actually sounds like a cool match). |
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 14, 2007 21:34:04 GMT -5
Why couldn't the pink slip case just be empty? Or getting that case could mean you'd forfeit your pay that month (TNA loves money)? Or they could have two cases have Tag Title contracts and have either one partner and a partner of his choosing face the champs then the other case winner and his partner could face the champs. Or two cases could have one half of the Tag Title contract each in them and then the two guys who chose those cases had to tag up to get the shot. That screams of "partners at odds" booking. You still WON a match, so you're only mildly being "punished" for getting that case. We're not talking 25% of losing your job. Or you Because the 'Big Risk' in 'Big Risk for Big Reward' doesn't sound so risky when the guy is losing a few bucks or not getting anything at all or even the horror of horrors of having to TAG WITH SOMEONE. Because it sounds better when you go "Someone is getting FIRED!" instead of "Someone is losing his PAYCHECK"! |
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Post by Panda Bear on Dec 14, 2007 21:40:01 GMT -5
Deal or No Deal is the worst conceivable game show on the entire planet. Period. There is no debate to this. That's why I hate this Feast or Fired thing. QFmf'nT It requires no real talent at all. |
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Dec 15, 2007 0:42:25 GMT -5
i wish it could've been feast, fired, or feces, just to see that one surprised face on opening the unlucky suitcase. Post of the Thread, right here! |
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Dec 15, 2007 1:01:58 GMT -5
I liked the concept but it was bungled from the start. It would have made sense if Cornette announced that with the signing of Booker T, they needed to make cutbacks and would fire someone the most diplomatic way possible.
Then, whomever was "fired" could have had a ready-made feud waiting with Booker.
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Post by ghettooverlord on Dec 15, 2007 1:10:52 GMT -5
Meh, I think the real problem is that the entire angle feeds into the notion that Vince Russo is a crazy bastard with a pole fetish. You know they used poles before Russo? You know that there are more people on the team than Russo? You know that 2 of the most influential members have history in the southern style of booking, which shares some traits with iMPACT? Do Ya? The Southern Style of booking also invented the Doomsday Chamber of Blood, amirite? <3 |
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Post by wwerules60 on Dec 15, 2007 1:15:11 GMT -5
i wish it could've been feast, fired, or feces, just to see that one surprised face on opening the unlucky suitcase. Too bad Orton doesn't work for TNA. |
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 15, 2007 1:15:24 GMT -5
I liked the concept but it was bungled from the start. It would have made sense if Cornette announced that with the signing of Booker T, they needed to make cutbacks and would fire someone the most diplomatic way possible. Then, whomever was "fired" could have had a ready-made feud waiting with Booker. more likely it would have fed into Joe's shoot and would have been a perfect setup to a New Blood/Millionaires Club type feud in TNA: the young wrestlers are working hard to make a name in TNA, but all these former WWE wrestlers are coming in and taking the top spots. now the younger workers are beginning to lose their jobs just so TNA has the money to pay the older wrestlers. the roster splits in two with Samoa Joe leading the young wrestlers and Kurt Angle leading the older ones. of course not all the young wrestlers join up with Joe and opt to join the veterans (i.e. Robert Roode and Johnny Devine), while others remain neutral because they can't make up their mind (i.e. AJ Styles). of course there are bigger egos in the veteran stable leading to in-fighting and...and...and i've hit a brick wall. i guess at this point you just insert a bunch of gimmick concept matches and drag it out for a few months. |
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Post by MiLo Duck on Dec 15, 2007 1:35:27 GMT -5
TNA's Deal or No Deal rip off is lame if there is actually no follow through the first time around. Unless Christopher Daniels is legit retired from the ring and moving on to other things, I highly doubt he will never be seen on TNA programming ever again as promised. P.S. fire Russo  |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Dec 15, 2007 3:41:24 GMT -5
TNA's Deal or No Deal rip off is lame if there is actually no follow through the first time around. Unless Christopher Daniels is legit retired from the ring and moving on to other things, I highly doubt he will never be seen on TNA programming ever again as promised. P.S. fire Russo Y'know, there are other wrestling companies Daniels could work for, right? |
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Post by Cap'n Crud on Dec 15, 2007 3:41:33 GMT -5
I agree that the Feast or Fired premise is really bad. If I were a wrestler, I would not want a case. Having a case means you could get fired... and theoretically if you were a good enough wrestler, you wouldn't need to win a title shot from this, because you would already be EARNING it. The only person in a kayfabe world that would benefit from a case would be some jobber who could never earn a title match any other way, and who would probably be fired anyway. Having a case would mean having little to lose. Either that or you could just simply steal the title off whoever has it like Team 3D and Johnny Devine did or run up and insult whoever's the champ like Chris Jericho did to Randy Orton so really who needs tournaments? |
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Post by MiLo Duck on Dec 15, 2007 11:52:12 GMT -5
TNA's Deal or No Deal rip off is lame if there is actually no follow through the first time around. Unless Christopher Daniels is legit retired from the ring and moving on to other things, I highly doubt he will never be seen on TNA programming ever again as promised. P.S. fire Russo Y'know, there are other wrestling companies Daniels could work for, right? Besides ROH, which probably is a severe pay downgrade which is less acceptable to anyone with a family, there is the WWE. Are you serious? You think the WWE would want Daniels. I'm not saying they shouldn't, but a guy with his look and skill set that hasn't been thouroughly groomed in OVW for awhile they aren't going to want. Other companies, sure. Realistic opptions, not IMO. |
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 15, 2007 19:07:54 GMT -5
It is stupid, but it's fun. That's all there is to it really.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 15, 2007 20:21:01 GMT -5
It is stupid, but it's fun. That's all there is to it really. Indeed. For me, there's a difference between "intelligence insulting" booking, and all in all "lighten up, it's fun!" booking. TNA occasionally makes that a thin line, but I thought the whole Feast or Fired thing was decent fun. Petey gets a push out of it, Daniels has a new storyline set up, as does Steiner. Things could be worse. |
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 15, 2007 20:33:35 GMT -5
Feast or Fired is soooooooooooo stupid that Elevation X say, "Wow. That is just completely stupid."
Yeah. That bad.
Whoa.
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I'll just move along now...
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 15, 2007 21:08:23 GMT -5
There's one big problem I have with this concept.
Seriously, who believes that Petey Williams has any chance in hell of getting a title win over Angle? It's the same problem I had with Kaz's title shot at first, but at least he earned it and even got a win over Christian. Petey just got really damn lucky that he and Steiner switched cases. Unless this leads to a big push for Petey, this is a wasted angle. The whole "once in a lifetime opportunity" thing is wasted when the receiver of said opportunity has about as much chance as I do or anyone on this forum does to take advantage of it and become the next TNA World Champion.
I also don't understand the "fired" thing unless this leads to a nice push for Daniels. Even then, they should've just asked Senshi to stay around for a couple of weeks and keep him around for the Fired case.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Dec 15, 2007 21:12:43 GMT -5
I'd voice my other problems for why this is stupid but I'd be breaking rules about spoilers so i won't say anything.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 15, 2007 21:21:25 GMT -5
There's one big problem I have with this concept. Seriously, who believes that Petey Williams has any chance in hell of getting a title win over Angle? It's the same problem I had with Kaz's title shot at first, but at least he earned it and even got a win over Christian. Petey just got really damn lucky that he and Steiner switched cases. Unless this leads to a big push for Petey, this is a wasted angle. The whole "once in a lifetime opportunity" thing is wasted when the receiver of said opportunity has about as much chance as I do or anyone on this forum does to take advantage of it and become the next TNA World Champion. I also don't understand the "fired" thing unless this leads to a nice push for Daniels. Even then, they should've just asked Senshi to stay around for a couple of weeks and keep him around for the Fired case. Again, the Daniels firing is actually leading to something. Just firing Senshi would've resulted in...Senshi not being around anymore. No storyline. I don't mind the whole Petey thing. He's been handed a golden opportunity, so the storyline can just end up being that, even if he doesn't win, he does SOMETHING that elevates his status. It's no big deal, though I do agree that doing that right on the heels of Kaz getting the "young upset winner comes through" push is a bit rushed. |
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