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Post by CrazySting on Dec 20, 2007 9:48:14 GMT -5
The 2007 PS50 from powerslam magazine, for those that are interested:This list is based soley on in ring performances for 2007 (or december 1st 2006 to dec 1st 2007 if you want to be exact ).
1) Kurt Angle 2) Nigel McGuinness 3) KENTA 4) Yuji Nagata 5) Randy Orton 6) Samoa Joe 7) Bryan Danielson 8) Shawn Michaels 9) Naomuchi Marafuji 10) Hiroshi Tanahashi 11) Takeshi Morishima 12) Christian Cage 13) The Undertaker 14) Jay Briscoe 15) Mark Briscoe 16) AJ Styles 17) Ricky Marvin 18) Katsuhiko Nakajima 19) CIMA 20) Kensuke Sasaki 21) Edge 22) Kotaro Suzuki 23) Jeff Hardy 24) Jay Lethal 25) Batista 26) Austin Aries 27) Umaga 28) Chris Sabin 29) John Cena 30) Matt Hardy 31) Matt Sydal 32) Go Shiozaki 33) Delirious 34) CM Punk 35) Roderick Strong 36) Christopher Daniels 37) Finlay 38) Homicide 39) Booker T 40) Kevin Steen 41) Abyss 42) Claudio Castagnoli 43) Rhino 44) El Generico 45) John Morrison 46) Triple H 47) James Storm 48) Rob Van Dam 49) Rey Mysterio 50) Doug Williams
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Post by dsriggs on Dec 20, 2007 9:50:58 GMT -5
This list is based soley on in ring performances for 2007 (or december 1st 2006 to dec 1st 2007 if you want to be exact ). 5) Randy Orton7) Bryan Danielson 14) Jay Briscoe 15) Mark Briscoe Uh-huh...
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Post by MGH on Dec 20, 2007 9:54:58 GMT -5
This list is based soley on in ring performances for 2007 (or december 1st 2006 to dec 1st 2007 if you want to be exact ). 5) Randy Orton 7) Bryan Danielson They lost me already. I enjoy Orton's matches, I really do. But as soon as he puts on a match that can top Danielson/KENTA, Danielson/Nigel, Danielson/Morishima I, II, or III, or Danielson/Aries I'll start to take that ranking seriously. Closest was that Last Man Standing match against HHH, which was great but I'm not putting in a league with those ^^.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 20, 2007 10:56:39 GMT -5
This list is based soley on in ring performances for 2007 (or december 1st 2006 to dec 1st 2007 if you want to be exact ). 5) Randy Orton 7) Bryan Danielson They lost me already. I enjoy Orton's matches, I really do. But as soon as he puts on a match that can top Danielson/KENTA, Danielson/Nigel, Danielson/Morishima I, II, or III, or Danielson/Aries I'll start to take that ranking seriously. Closest was that Last Man Standing match against HHH, which was great but I'm not putting in a league with those ^^. Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe coming as high as they were was the biggest upset to me, considering both have been coasting on their reputations for a while. I think them coming ahead of Danielson is a bigger shock than Orton. I think it's dissapointing that people will dismiss the whole list because of one placing they don't like. I don't like Angle being first, Cena should have been higher (and what has AJ styles done except be a clown?) but I still think it's a decent list.
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Post by leemir on Dec 20, 2007 11:02:04 GMT -5
Jay ahead of Mark? I don't think so...
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 20, 2007 11:02:32 GMT -5
Kurt as Number One?
Okay...
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Dec 20, 2007 11:24:15 GMT -5
Orton at 5? Batista at 25? Cena at 29? Cena could maybe squeak in at the lower end, but the other 2 should be nowhere near this list. No sign of Quack or Hero though? Bullshit. They've put on great matches everywhere- CHI, ROH, IWA-MS, IWA-DS, plsu Hero's CZW stuff at the start of the year with Kingston.
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Post by Kenny Brockelstein on Dec 20, 2007 11:33:14 GMT -5
I love Power Slam with all my heart, it is quite simply the best wrestling magazine I have ever read by a very long way. That said, Angle and Orton definately should not be as high as they are on this list. But don't let that cloud your opinion on Power Slam- it is an abolutely outstanding magazine.
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Post by comahan on Dec 20, 2007 11:39:30 GMT -5
They lost me already. I enjoy Orton's matches, I really do. But as soon as he puts on a match that can top Danielson/KENTA, Danielson/Nigel, Danielson/Morishima I, II, or III, or Danielson/Aries I'll start to take that ranking seriously. Closest was that Last Man Standing match against HHH, which was great but I'm not putting in a league with those ^^. Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe coming as high as they were was the biggest upset to me, considering both have been coasting on their reputations for a while. I think them coming ahead of Danielson is a bigger shock than Orton. I think it's disappointing that people will dismiss the whole list because of one placing they don't like. I don't like Angle being first, Cena should have been higher (and what has AJ styles done except be a clown?) but I still think it's a decent list. AJ has still been really good in the ring this year. He doesnt have as many standout matches as previous years though. He had a good feud with some good matches against Rhino, had a few good matches with Joe, has had some very very good tag matches with Tomko, and was the stand out performer in both Lethal Lockdown and King of the Mountain. I've only seen a bit of ROH, so I wont act like I know what im talking about when it comes to them. While Angle has had a very good December-December (Angle/Joe II was spectacular, imo. Angle/Joe III was solid, his three match performance in one night where two of them were great (Lethal and Abyss), his iMPACT match vs. Kaz, his match vs Sting @ BFG, Lethal Lockdown, KoTM), It surprised me that he was on the top of the list. I think its ridiculous to put Angle and Joe above Christian this year, too. Maybe im just a huge Christian mark, but I think hes been absolutely amazing this year. Also to add, while Orton lacks in overall charisma, I definitely think hes been great in the ring this year.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 20, 2007 12:34:06 GMT -5
Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe coming as high as they were was the biggest upset to me, considering both have been coasting on their reputations for a while. I think them coming ahead of Danielson is a bigger shock than Orton. I think it's disappointing that people will dismiss the whole list because of one placing they don't like. I don't like Angle being first, Cena should have been higher (and what has AJ styles done except be a clown?) but I still think it's a decent list. AJ has still been really good in the ring this year. He doesnt have as many standout matches as previous years though. He had a good feud with some good matches against Rhino, had a few good matches with Joe, has had some very very good tag matches with Tomko, and was the stand out performer in both Lethal Lockdown and King of the Mountain. I've only seen a bit of ROH, so I wont act like I know what im talking about when it comes to them. While Angle has had a very good December-December (Angle/Joe II was spectacular, imo. Angle/Joe III was solid, his three match performance in one night where two of them were great (Lethal and Abyss), his iMPACT match vs. Kaz, his match vs Sting @ BFG, Lethal Lockdown, KoTM), It surprised me that he was on the top of the list. I think its ridiculous to put Angle and Joe above Christian this year, too. Maybe im just a huge Christian mark, but I think hes been absolutely amazing this year. Also to add, while Orton lacks in overall charisma, I definitely think hes been great in the ring this year. I see your point about Styles, but he's still been so-so this year for me. I disagree with Kurt being so high, but he deserves to be in the top ten, so it's not a total upset. You have to also remember with Orton and Angle that they work more dates than many of the indie guys. So, if they're good consistently that might mean more than having 2 or 3 ***** star matches for the year. With Orton you have to take into account his house show matches, his tv matches, and his ppv matches. Kurt's schedule as been busy as well. Whereas Danieson or Nigel may have performed better on a match to match basis they simply havn't worked as many matches as Orton or Joe. At least, that's how I think PS might be doing it. As for Batista...I've said this before but he makes a little go a long way and he doesn't get enough credit for that. His matches with Taker were superb. I don't think he should that high but I have no problem with him being on the list.
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Post by Numero Dos on Dec 20, 2007 14:20:30 GMT -5
The thing that really annoyed me apart from Angle not really deserving to be number 1 is how did Mysterio make the list? I like him as much as the next person but he's only been active for about 3 and a half months of the time they judge on. Yet the likes of Shelley and Hero are missing. Also, I'm not his biggest fan but Cena should be higher than 29 although at least he's on the list this year the first time he has been on it since 2003.
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 20, 2007 14:24:19 GMT -5
Am I the only one thinking that Undertaker carried Batista to a high ranking?
Batista seems so unmotivated in his other feuds (outside of one really good match with Edge), but pulls out all the stops with Taker.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 20, 2007 14:38:49 GMT -5
watch me as i wallow in the greatness that is Orton comming in above Joe...
*wallows*
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Post by maxx420 on Dec 20, 2007 14:57:05 GMT -5
I love Power Slam with all my heart, it is quite simply the best wrestling magazine I have ever read by a very long way. That said, Angle and Orton definately should not be as high as they are on this list. But don't let that cloud your opinion on Power Slam- it is an abolutely outstanding magazine. I concur. I usually agree with their opinions in the PS 50, but this list seems terribly flawed to me. I certainly don't think that Kurt Angle deserves to be #1. Then again, I can't think of anyone that has had a that great a year in terms of in-ring performance... maybe Christian Cage.
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Post by silverking on Dec 20, 2007 15:03:06 GMT -5
Terrible list from a terrible magazine. There are no lucha workers... not even MISTICO!!!! Cena is too low. Tanahashi did more than KENTA did. And don't get me started on the fallacies of having Kurt as number one.UGHHHHH!!! Smurf a Powerslam!
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Post by Steveweiser on Dec 20, 2007 15:36:21 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised that in a year where a British wrestler rises to the top of the indy world, that the biggest wrestling magazine in Britain doesn't name him #1. I certainly felt he had a bigger twelve months than Angle, and certainly would have if he was on an equal platform.
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Post by Hensley on Dec 20, 2007 15:46:26 GMT -5
Yeah, they lost me with Orton.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 20, 2007 16:04:15 GMT -5
It's really beyond me how Orton is considered by some people to be this talentless, terrible wrestler on par with Khali or Henry. I mean, he's had awesome matches with Cena, RVD, HBK, Jericho and Triple H this year alone and more than done his fair share of the work (heck, I even think he was carrying HHH at LMS considering the Game hasn't been that great since he came back). Is that a guy who can't wrestle? Well, apparently.
I would have put Umaga higher, and what exactly has Booker done this year?
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 20, 2007 17:05:33 GMT -5
Here's what they said about Kurt..if this justifies it more for people
KURT ANGLE (TNA; LAST YEAR PLACED: 15) Incredible comeback by a man who was fired by WWE under a coal-black cloud in 2006 and was though to be completely shot as a pro-wrestler... Long running feud with Samoa Joe yielded superior matches at Turning Point, Final Resolution and Hard Justice... Pull aparts with Scott Steiner in February were hard-hitting, but their match at Destination X on March 11 was a dud... Captured the TNA World title at Slammiversary... Beat Brock Lesnar to win the IGF version of the IWGP World title in a good bout on June 29 in Tokyo... Bested Joe in a Winner Takes All match on August 12 to become World tag team and X Division champion as well... Dropped the strap to Jay Lethal in the high point of a three-match series at No Surrender on September 9... Lost the TNA World title to Sting in 'the Stinger's' best match in more than a decade at Bound for Glory... Regained the belt two days later... While concerns remain over his drink-driving arrest and nutty mainstream interviews, the 39-year old is said to be in his best physical condition in years.
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Post by comahan on Dec 20, 2007 18:23:59 GMT -5
It's really beyond me how Orton is considered by some people to be this talentless, terrible wrestler on par with Khali or Henry. I mean, he's had awesome matches with Cena, RVD, HBK, Jericho and Triple H this year alone and more than done his fair share of the work (heck, I even think he was carrying HHH at LMS considering the Game hasn't been that great since he came back). Is that a guy who can't wrestle? Well, apparently. I would have put Umaga higher, and what exactly has Booker done this year? Dont forget Orton's match(es) with Edge.
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