Is this a common sentiment these days?

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

I was checking the Cyber Sunday results on the Torch, and as always they had posted fan reactions to the PPV. The first one of these I noticed was listed as follows:

WWE Cyber Sunday Reax #1: "Why do we have to have DQ finishes to title matches? What is the logic?"

I was surprised to see this. Do a lot of fans feel this way now? Am I truly that old school (and out of date) that I am in a minority because I understand DQs in title matches and think they can be a good idea?

I'm not knocking anyone who thinks they shouldn't happen, I'm just wondering if things have really changed that much.

[Square]

DQ wins are a way of keeping the challanger a viable contender and keeping him in the title picture and make the champion more hated

[Maxnificent]

DQ endings are a nice way of saying "**** you, but thanks for the 40 bucks." Of course, those of us who watch illegal streams don't have to worry about that. ;D

[Mr. Mediocre]

square said:

DQ wins are a way of keeping the challanger a viable contender and keeping him in the title picture and make the champion more hated

I'm with Square.

That said, I tend to find that if DQ finishes are overdone, it's a turn-off.

[Hiroshi Hase]

maxnificent said:

DQ endings are a nice way of saying "**** you, but thanks for the 40 bucks." Of course, those of us who watch illegal streams don't have to worry about that. ;D

Perhaps some may see it that way, but not every match has to end in a pinfall or submission.

[clifford]

I'm ok with DQ title match finishes, but not on PPVs and not when they are this frequent. The last 3 ppvs have finished with DQ's to title matches.

[Avalanche Alvarez]

joeyonly said:

I was checking the Cyber Sunday results on the Torch, and as always they had posted fan reactions to the PPV. The first one of these I noticed was listed as follows:

WWE Cyber Sunday Reax #1: "Why do we have to have DQ finishes to title matches? What is the logic?"

I was surprised to see this. Do a lot of fans feel this way now? Am I truly that old school (and out of date) that I am in a minority because I understand DQs in title matches and think they can be a good idea?

I'm not knocking anyone who thinks they shouldn't happen, I'm just wondering if things have really changed that much.

Well, if I pay $40 to see a PPV and the main event ends in a blatant DQ, I'm gonna be pissed. If the heel cheats to win, that's fine, but punching / kicking someone in the balls in front of the ref?

Reminds me of Cena / Orton when Cena got DQ'd.

I understand the reasoning but it ain't worth the price tag.

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

Oh I agree about not over-doing them. Any kind of finish, if done too much, loses any and all appeal.

But the way this person worded it was more like there should never be DQ finishes to title matches. And that, I have to disagree with.

[Avalanche Alvarez]

joeyonly said:

Oh I agree about not over-doing them. Any kind of finish, if done too much, loses any and all appeal.

But the way this person worded it was more like there should never be DQ finishes to title matches. And that, I have to disagree with.

I hear ya.
People go to extremes with stuff like that.
There also shouldn't be any "feet on the ropes" pins but lo and behold, there you go.

[Deleted]

IMO, DQ finishes are most effective when you have a great feud going on and the heel wriggles his way out of the arena with the title, leaving the face pissed off and hungry for vengence. Honestly, with the lack of quality feuds going on, DQ finishes like that only annoy people, not get over the feud and the heel's dickery.

[Mr. Mediocre]

I remember way back in the day when Shawn Michaels was in his first IC title reign...when he had to face an opponent who was likely to beat him, he'd roll out of the ring and get counted out. I remember it getting him insane heel heat, and looking back it was perfect.

[velvetvandal]

Money Inc used to do that, too, and people absolutely HATED them for it...but there was a point to it, in that it built to a no-count-out tag titles match with the LOD, if memory serves. I think if you use DQ finishes in a build like that, that's fine...but when you're just having them for the sake of having them, or for parity booking, or because you can't think of a decent finish...that's when it sucks.

[pathogen]

DQ or count out finishes always feel cheap to me. If thye wanted the champ to retain so bad, they shouldn't have made the match.

[Libertine]

I think the worst most recent example of this was Punk/BDV at No Mercy.

[Mr. Mediocre]

velvetvandal said:

Money Inc used to do that, too, and people absolutely HATED them for it...but there was a point to it, in that it built to a no-count-out tag titles match with the LOD, if memory serves. I think if you use DQ finishes in a build like that, that's fine...but when you're just having them for the sake of having them, or for parity booking, or because you can't think of a decent finish...that's when it sucks.

Totally agreed there.

[Loki]

DQs in Championship titles weren't a problem when there were only 4 PPVs per year and 3-4 SNMEs.

With more and more Pay per Views popping up like mushrooms, they had to resort to such "cheap finishes" to keep the feuds going.

In recent times it has been overused, even in big PPVs (Summerslam 2004 and 2006 just to name two) and some fans are resenting it. With reason.

Had I paid 40$ for a show, I'd be po'ed to see the WWE title match ending with a low blow... Not to mention those who bought a ticket for the live event.

[Square]

MVP/Kane

If MVP won cleanly it would kill all the heat Kane had running into the Monster Mash but if Kane won the Hardy/MVP fued will be killed

[Mitch 4:20]

blindgunfighter said:

I think the worst most recent example of this was Punk/BDV at No Mercy.

refresh my memory?

[pathogen]

square said:

MVP/Kane

If MVP won cleanly it would kill all the heat Kane had running into the Monster Mash but if Kane won the Hardy/MVP fued will be killed

Why would that be a bad thing? I wsa rea;;y looking forward to seeing Kane win a title, the MVP wussed out/off.

[Square]

scoopdogg said:

blindgunfighter said:

I think the worst most recent example of this was Punk/BDV at No Mercy.

refresh my memory?

Punk couldnt handle Big Daddy V but Daddy got himself DQed proving that BDV is the most dominant man on the ECW roster, and proving that CM Punk can be beaten for the title.