Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 4, 2008 4:25:25 GMT -5
seriously i mean i love the fact that beautiful girls have self esteem low enough to perform for my perverted pleasure.
but girls like Gianna Lynn, Bree Olson, and Raven Riley are way too pretty to be in porn.
like i mean i love watching these chicks get down and dirty, but i mean come on...let me come on...gah
well no am i complaining? you decide
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jan 4, 2008 4:28:12 GMT -5
Why is it all adult film actors need to have low self esteem?
Sure it may be common place to be prejudice about it, but I think it's wrong to assume they all do just due to their profession.
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Post by HoagieWithPastrami on Jan 4, 2008 4:30:03 GMT -5
There was a movie called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, where Robert Downey Jr. basically said that male porn stars are just normal guys, but female porn stars are all girls with major "daddy issues".
Ummm... it was funnier and wittier when he said it in the movie.
BTW, not too many people have seen that flick. Check it out, it's pretty good!
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Post by Loki on Jan 4, 2008 4:32:13 GMT -5
I don't like porn stars. As simple as that...
They look too fake and are usually kinda gross too.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 4, 2008 4:34:38 GMT -5
hence the creation of "girl next door" porn using girls who you could see at the mall in orange county...
well i guess a lot of people don't live here in socal which has been a breeding ground for pornstars since forever...it's just nowadays pornstars look like chicks i've gone to highschool with who were too "hot' for me. or in some cases were girls i've gone to high school with i've actually dated.
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Post by THE Dinobot on Jan 4, 2008 4:35:27 GMT -5
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang reference wins this thread.
One reason why Downey's character said that was, dunno, will probably word it all wrongly, but because harmony's sister used to get 'molested' by their father. Probably not the reason why it was said...I'll leave.
Let the porn star talk continue.
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Post by Rube on Jan 4, 2008 4:37:03 GMT -5
There was a movie called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, where Robert Downey Jr. basically said that male porn stars are just normal guys, but female porn stars are all girls with major "daddy issues". Ummm... it was funnier and wittier when he said it in the movie. BTW, not too many people have seen that flick. Check it out, it's pretty good! That is a good movie, and he is 100% right. You may think those girls are better than porn, but they don't.
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Post by Loki on Jan 4, 2008 4:37:22 GMT -5
But even the "girls next door" has gotten a bit too plastic.
A Lindsay Lohan/Paris Hilton type is supposed to be GND... I'm not buying it.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 4, 2008 4:46:19 GMT -5
There was a movie called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, where Robert Downey Jr. basically said that male porn stars are just normal guys, but female porn stars are all girls with major "daddy issues". Ummm... it was funnier and wittier when he said it in the movie. BTW, not too many people have seen that flick. Check it out, it's pretty good! That is a good movie, and he is 100% right. You may think those girls are better than porn, but they don't. that is a great movie. hmm yeah i was getting to that. i think with the whole low self-esteem and then being wanted by men all over is most of the reason for women becoming porn stars. I mean i guess i was just shell-shocked to see a chick i dated going down on mandingo.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Jan 4, 2008 5:52:23 GMT -5
^^^Damn dog, she topped off Mandingo. Was that before or after you dated her.
On to the subject,
I guess this kinda falls under the "She's too beautiful to be a stripper, porn star, whore, etc."
In my years, i've known girls who fallen under the three categories. They have their reasons for why they do what they do and most comes from a defining moment in their early years. It doesn't have to be abuse, just something that triggered the decision that lead them to being who they are. They may not be stupid, but they consciously choose this as a career path/ temporary job to pay bills, take care of their kids, pay for school, or give them a sense of domination and control toward the people she saw as oppressors.
If you have met some girls who do this they'll will either come out and say what they do unprovoked or wait until they are comfortable around you to tell you what they do. It really depends on how they see you.
If she openly tells you then it's like she is trying to place you into a space where she thinks that's all I had to do to hook him. Or she assumed that you were something she was familiar with, therefore you don't cause her any alarm so why not tell him. DEFENSE MECHANISM. It's a way for her to have an excuse for your actions towards her so she doesn't have to think when it comes to dealing with you. Thus she'll do what she wants with out consequence and expects you not react in a way that you seemed surprised by her. It's like you don't even bother to ask why. MANIPULATION.
As a younger guy I had the "She's shouldn't be doing this, she's too pretty". When I got older it changed to "It's her choice, oh well. She better not come at me like a trick!! Or she'll get roasted!!"
As far as stripping, it depends on the female's state of mind. She's not scum because she strips. There are women in corporate offices who have done more than the nastiest porn stars.
Some strippers realize that this is easy money and can make good money fast so they can move on with their lives. It's just that most of them get caught up in that lifestyle. Then it's a wrap.
Porn stars and Strippers along with some "normal" women do tend be more honest and straight forward about everything which is good to some extent. But when you ask them why they are so upfront, the usual response is "Cause I don't care" or "I'm just telling the truth". Now I don't know whether to be worried by a girl who is too secretive or a woman who will blab about anything at any given moment to prove that "She doesn't care". Crazy huh.
Porn stars...Well, you smurf on camera for money and smile while taking money shots. There's no coming back form that. Sure that's a job, but it involves male members in your face. I can't see male penis when women are stripping in the club. You can if you at a seedy spot. If you've been one then you know.
I'd have to break some of my personal rules to date a stripper or former stripper, (I'm not stupid. I know what goes on in the VIP room, private parties, or on slow nights when the rent is due the next day) so I would seriously have to say "smurf it, this chick is cool and she fine and this isn't going to be serious. And NOOOOOOOOOOO kissing!!"
Porn stars would simply be hit it and leave if anything. The same goes for chicks with porn star behavior. Whores.
And to add. I'm sorry, but to all of the women who say, "I used to do that, but that that's not me now". That crap doesn't work. Once a ho, always a ho! You just say that because a the guy who'll could reignite your whorish antics hasn't walked in the room yet.
A lot of this applies to woman who aren't legit strippers or porn stars. The whores of convenience.
The older you get the more you have to accept the truth about it all. I stopped doing the "She's too pretty..." thing a looooooong time ago.
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Jan 4, 2008 6:24:04 GMT -5
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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 4, 2008 7:33:07 GMT -5
I'm VERY grateful Raven Riley likes to do porn, among others
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Jan 4, 2008 7:47:05 GMT -5
How do straight guys get in the business is all I want to now...Sign me up!!!
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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 4, 2008 8:06:54 GMT -5
I read Jenna Jameson's autobiography and she mentioned that it's easier for men to get in-they don't have to have the looks, they just need to be able to "perform" well
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Post by shadowforce420 on Jan 4, 2008 8:49:34 GMT -5
The only thing I have to add to this thread is that Raven Riley is on my myspace friends list and she has a non-porn movie out, theres still nudity but atleast she's trying to get out of the porn game.
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Post by Bones58 on Jan 4, 2008 8:54:55 GMT -5
How do straight guys get in the business is all I want to now...Sign me up!!! Often the only route now for straight guys into the industry is through 'Gay for pay' FYI
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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 4, 2008 9:05:30 GMT -5
The only thing I have to add to this thread is that Raven Riley is on my myspace friends list and she has a non-porn movie out, theres still nudity but atleast she's trying to get out of the porn game. Trying to get out? Really she has a nude site with some guy girl/girl, girl scenes here and there, so I don't really consider her a porn star like say Jenna Jameson
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Post by Grendel on Jan 4, 2008 10:17:41 GMT -5
I'm VERY grateful Raven Riley likes to do porn, among others And Katie Morgan isn't bad either ... Anyway onto those who spoke about the movie Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I watched it one night and was pleasantly surprised. I thought it was an excellent movie.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Jan 4, 2008 15:42:44 GMT -5
Maybe not "girl next door" type, but I've always had a soft spot (and a not-so-soft spot) for Liz Vicious/Ally Sin. She's not what I would consider your "typical" porn star, and would definitely fall into the category of "girl I would try to date."
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Post by Near Fantastica on Jan 4, 2008 15:44:56 GMT -5
Porn stars aren't attractive to me. Not at all. Not one bit. Big tits aren't sexy.
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