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Post by tankmcquade on Mar 20, 2008 3:30:47 GMT -5
Now they are remaking Hellraiser as well!?!? Jeez, when will it end?
I loved the first 3....never saw the rest of em, isnt there like 8 Hellraisers now?
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Post by Welfare Willis on Mar 20, 2008 5:59:35 GMT -5
What movies come in that box set, Doom? 1, 2 & 3 aka The good ones ;D III is bad but it's cheesy fun but the films after are just abysmal I'd add part IV to that list. I think 1 and 2 are excellent. After that 3 and 4 are bad in the good sense, but things go downhill after that. |
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Post by JMA on Mar 20, 2008 6:16:02 GMT -5
Part two was cool. I really liked all the Lovecraftian elements (the asylum, the Leviathan, ect).
I also watch the first two HELLRAISER films every Halloween.
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Post by Jiren on Mar 20, 2008 7:58:21 GMT -5
I love the Hellraiser series 1 - 3 (They SUCK!!!! afterwards). I have the Lament configuration box set. People always talk about this - is this only available in the U.K., because I can never seem to locate it on Amazon. It's a UK only thing Just like the Phantasm Sphere set |
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Post by Jiren on Mar 20, 2008 8:02:07 GMT -5
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Post by MysteryPartner on Mar 20, 2008 8:07:00 GMT -5
I love the hellraiser series! I have to say that my favorite is probably HELLSEEKER but you'll probably all disagree. I love it because it's so surreal and I just currently realized the actor in it is the same actor from OZ!! I didn't know that before so wow.. definatly my fav one  |
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Post by plushtar on Mar 20, 2008 9:08:09 GMT -5
1 & 2 can work as one single film. And in fact, I used to watch both when I only planned to watch one.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 20, 2008 9:15:50 GMT -5
I love the hellraiser series! I have to say that my favorite is probably HELLSEEKER but you'll probably all disagree. I love it because it's so surreal and I just currently realized the actor in it is the same actor from OZ!! I didn't know that before so wow.. definatly my fav one I liked Hellseeker enough to buy a copy after renting it. I didn't find it as terrible as most people apparently did. Well, MOST people didn't see it...so, out of the 30 or so people that know of it's existence (outside of the cast). |
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Post by spinachchin on Mar 20, 2008 12:54:00 GMT -5
the second is the best in my opinion.
I've seen all the direct to DVD sequels to, except for the very last one. I started watching it on Sci-Fi once and decided I didn't want to waste my time with it any further.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Mar 20, 2008 13:25:36 GMT -5
People always talk about this - is this only available in the U.K., because I can never seem to locate it on Amazon. It's a UK only thing Just like the Phantasm Sphere set There are places you can order it from though to get it in America, just make sure to have a region free DVD player. |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 20, 2008 14:44:48 GMT -5
It's a UK only thing Just like the Phantasm Sphere set There are places you can order it from though to get it in America, just make sure to have a region free DVD player. With PAL-to-NTSC-Conversion! |
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Mar 20, 2008 15:06:06 GMT -5
There are places you can order it from though to get it in America, just make sure to have a region free DVD player. With PAL-to-NTSC-Conversion! No, you don't have to worry about that. In other words, the DVD itself has nothing to do with PAL or NTSC, it's the players that are like that. A friend of mine orders DVD's from all over the globe because he made his region free. You can also buy some that come region free, and sometimes DVDs themselves are made region free. |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 20, 2008 15:16:22 GMT -5
With PAL-to-NTSC-Conversion! No, you don't have to worry about that. In other words, the DVD itself has nothing to do with PAL or NTSC, it's the players that are like that. A friend of mine orders DVD's from all over the globe because he made his region free. You can also buy some that come region free, and sometimes DVDs themselves are made region free. I didn't know that about PAL and NTSC. It doesn't help that every time I try to look up what either of them means, I wind up staring off into space, bewildered. |
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Mar 20, 2008 15:21:49 GMT -5
No, you don't have to worry about that. In other words, the DVD itself has nothing to do with PAL or NTSC, it's the players that are like that. A friend of mine orders DVD's from all over the globe because he made his region free. You can also buy some that come region free, and sometimes DVDs themselves are made region free. I didn't know that about PAL and NTSC. It doesn't help that every time I try to look up what either of them means, I wind up staring off into space, bewildered. Let's say I bought a DVD Player from England, and took it back here to America to use it. If I didn't have a converter, or a TV made to be able to use that DVD Player I wouldn't be able to use it. I can't remember which places use which. Is it America that uses NTSC? Regions, however, are just like codes basicaly. So Region 1 players can play region 1 DVDs, etc. All you have to do in that case is mod your player or buy a region free player and/or DVD. |
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Mar 20, 2008 21:24:25 GMT -5
 HELLRAISER III: HELL ON EARTH 1992 Director: Anthony Hickox Alright, everyone, brace yourselves because I'm going to say some very nice things about this movie that may sound downright sacriligious. I absolutely love the first three movies in this series. In fact, more than any other horror series, these first three movies draw some pretty heavy comparisons to Star Wars, at least in my eyes - you've got your visionary first chapter with a genius creator; the dark, more introspective middle chapter; and this one, the equivalent of your more entertainment-oriented flick with happy Ewoks. Or, in this case, extremely strange cenobites. What I love about this movie is pretty much what everyone else hates about it; as a horror aficionado, I actually like when some of these cheesy, low-budget series attain some serious mainstream level success and attempt to take the next leap. An excellent example of that was "Nightmare on Elm Street 3" - the first two were low-budget and had no recognizable cast. The third was just different - the actors in it actually felt like REAL actors, and not just another motley crue seemingly found underneath rocks. This movie has that same feel. The plot: A self-centered millionaire (Kevin Bernhardt, playing a really great sleazeball) purchases a strange piece of art for his loft - the very column that Pinhead was imprisoned in at the conclusion of "Hellbound." Before he knows it, his latest sexual conquest becomes lunch for the column, and Pinhead's face itself becomes visible, giving us the great line - JP - "Jesus Christ!" Pinhead - "Not quite." Pinhead is truly the star of this movie. Audiences couldn't help but notice the originality of this character in the first two films, and with this, writer Peter Atkins wisely chose to give him and the phenomenal Doug Bradley the star treatment. This is a splendid villain, on one hand a prim, proper hand who speaks perfect, succint English; on the other hand, this is a man who is so pissed off at humanity after the events of the first two films that he wants everyone DEAD. Meanwhile, an investigative reporter (Terry Farrell) has seen one of Pinhead's victims, and it is this character that sets the remainder of the plot in motion. In dreams, she meets Elliot Spencer - Pinhead's real identity, a World War I soldier who sought out the Puzzle Box in those dark days after the war. In these scenes, Bradley is unbelievably sympathetic and likable, seeking to undue the damage that his own pleasure-seeking has caused in the present world. The plot thread involving the millionaire's girlfriend (Paula Marshall) is also nicely developed - we feel for this character, and want badly for her to rise above her past - but Pinhead's final case to her to finally break free of his prison is just so convincing... In short, I think this is a good movie - it's infinitely entertaining, it's got TONS of great lines and memorable scenes, an intriguing hero in Farrell and an excellent pleasure-seeking character in J.P. Monroe. Yes, some of the cenobites are a bit lame, but one of this movie's best lines is Pinhead speaking of these new minions - "A mere shell of my former troops." Also, you gotta love that unholy last supper. *** 1/2 (out of four) |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 20, 2008 22:44:32 GMT -5
Yes, America uses NTSC, while England uses PAL.
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Mar 21, 2008 22:51:20 GMT -5
 HELLRAISER: BLOODLINE 1996 Director: Kevin Yagher Oh man, here we are... This was the last "Hellraiser" movie released theatrically and, let's face it, "Hellraiser" as a franchise deserved it after this film. While I'm not dumb and fanboyish enough to believe that movie executives won't make movies if the last entry gave the series a sense of closure - even if it would cost them millions of dollars - I do expect them to be able to reject script ideas that are ridiculous. Such as this one. This is a movie that has aspirations of being a broad, sweeping, epic tale, and doesn't succeed, period. To its credit, it does have a very big goal - tell a story that takes place over a VERY long period of time. It begins in the 18th century, where a toymaker (Bruce Ramsey, in one of his three roles) constructs the Lament Configuration, the legendary puzzle box that serves as the gateway for the cenobites in this series. Much as he did in the third film, Pinhead (Doug Bradley, who is again superb) plays a very big role - director Kevin Yagher, best known as the creator of Freddy Kruger's makeup in Nightmare 2-4, and screenwriter Peter Atkins certainly know that the character itself is golden. He isn't the problem. The problem is the entire angle with Ramsey's three characters, particularly the middle chapter. Taking place in the present day, Ramsey's present-day character, and the story that it goes through, is an EXTREMELY dull and pointless middle chapter, setting up the ridiculous "Pinhead in Space" finale. If you're looking for some pluses, there are indeed a few - the "Twins" cenobite is one of the coolest creations in the series, Bradley is outstanding and elegant as Pinhead as usual, and Valentina Vargas' Angelique character is nice eye candy. Beyond that, everything else in this film is just an incoherent mess that totally retcon the events of the excellent first three movies in the series. * 1/2 |
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Mar 21, 2008 22:55:59 GMT -5
Pinhead Vs. Jason Vs. Leprachaun Vs. Dracula IN SPACE... or better yet, IN THE SPACE HOOD!
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 21, 2008 22:57:03 GMT -5
Even as a fan of the series as a whole I can admit this one being... bad.
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Post by plushtar on Mar 21, 2008 23:06:59 GMT -5
I recall a rumor that Barker was initially involved in this and bits and pieces of the box's origins actually are his creation. But other than that, this film was just there to create an unnecessary sequel.
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