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Post by Sir Woodrow on Apr 6, 2008 20:07:55 GMT -5
I love comics but there are some things about them that I just miss these days.
For example I miss speech bubbles on covers.
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Post by jaywatts on Apr 6, 2008 20:38:46 GMT -5
I miss going to the comic book store back in the day and picking up any random crap from the buck section and actually enjoying it.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Apr 6, 2008 20:44:02 GMT -5
I miss the days when there wasn't a huge company-wide crossover event that will "Change everything you know about the Marvel/DC universe!!!!!!!" every six months or so!
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Post by Triple Kelly on Apr 6, 2008 20:46:04 GMT -5
I haven't read comics since I was real little, but from what I understand nowadays comics are no longer aimed at little kids but adults.
And the comic industry seems to be less about stories and enjoyment than how much money the issues will be worth.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 6, 2008 20:53:26 GMT -5
I haven't read comics since I was real little, but from what I understand nowadays comics are no longer aimed at little kids but adults. And the comic industry seems to be less about stories and enjoyment than how much money the issues will be worth. I'm not THE expert of comics (heck, I'm sliding back in), but I think I'll try and explain what's being done at present with both of those. First, yes, most mainstream comics are aimed for Adults. But more then ever, both Marvel and DC are producing titles for young kids. Marvel has their highly successful Marvel Adventures range which has titles for Iron Man, Hulk, Spiderman and The Avengers, along with a few other titles here and there. DC are branching out big time with things such as Tiny Titans and Superfriends along with the recent Power Pack Year One. So they're doing it and, I hope, they do well with it because with Marvel there seems to be a demand for those sort of titles. On your other point, I think the collecting business has ground to a hault in terms of collecting issues for worth. Why? Because most collectors are doing it. If everyone has the same one issue, how can you sell that issue on to other collectors for more than its worth. Answer? You can't. Simple as. If anything, you could make more of a profit in a business sense from Trades and Graphic Novels which are the big money makers for both Marvel and DC. If I'm wrong about something, feel free to say. I'm just throwing out my 2 cents.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Apr 6, 2008 21:11:29 GMT -5
I haven't read comics since I was real little, but from what I understand nowadays comics are no longer aimed at little kids but adults. And the comic industry seems to be less about stories and enjoyment than how much money the issues will be worth. I'm not THE expert of comics (heck, I'm sliding back in), but I think I'll try and explain what's being done at present with both of those. First, yes, most mainstream comics are aimed for Adults. But more then ever, both Marvel and DC are producing titles for young kids. Marvel has their highly successful Marvel Adventures range which has titles for Iron Man, Hulk, Spiderman and The Avengers, along with a few other titles here and there. DC are branching out big time with things such as Tiny Titans and Superfriends along with the recent Power Pack Year One. So they're doing it and, I hope, they do well with it because with Marvel there seems to be a demand for those sort of titles. On your other point, I think the collecting business has ground to a hault in terms of collecting issues for worth. Why? Because most collectors are doing it. If everyone has the same one issue, how can you sell that issue on to other collectors for more than its worth. Answer? You can't. Simple as. If anything, you could make more of a profit in a business sense from Trades and Graphic Novels which are the big money makers for both Marvel and DC. If I'm wrong about something, feel free to say. I'm just throwing out my 2 cents. Your points were very well-made. I only stated mine based on those of a casual observer. You appear to be more involved so I'll take your word on these. I go to the dealers room in DragonCon every year I've been there and the comics have huge price tags on them. "That's a collectible", the sellers respond when I put down a comic I was looking at. "Maybe so but not enough to pay $30 for", I respond.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Apr 6, 2008 21:14:00 GMT -5
I haven't read comics since I was real little, but from what I understand nowadays comics are no longer aimed at little kids but adults. And the comic industry seems to be less about stories and enjoyment than how much money the issues will be worth. Hell, focussing on making the value of the issues in the future very high is what nearly killed the industry in the 1990s.
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Post by BlackJackRobby on Apr 6, 2008 21:14:52 GMT -5
Fables got me back into comics.
Y the last man kept me there.
I love not having to miss what I missed about comics and being able to enjoy them again.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Apr 6, 2008 21:15:02 GMT -5
Hell, focussing on making the value of the issues in the future very high is what nearly killed the industry in the 1990s. That and Rob Liefeld artwork?
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Apr 6, 2008 21:16:06 GMT -5
Hell, focussing on making the value of the issues in the future very high is what nearly killed the industry in the 1990s. That and Rob Liefeld artwork? Well, he didn't help. ;D
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 6, 2008 21:18:54 GMT -5
Your points were very well-made. I only stated mine based on those of a casual observer. You appear to be more involved so I'll take your word on these. I try to follow things like this as best as I can. Since I'm running a website about pop culture, I have to really know what I'm talking about so basically....I try my best. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I go to the dealers room in DragonCon every year I've been there and the comics have huge price tags on them. "That's a collectible", the sellers respond when I put down a comic I was looking at. "Maybe so but not enough to pay $30 for", I respond. Don't get me wrong, there are still collectable items. You pick up a sealed up first issue of 'New Gods' signed by Jack Kirby, for example, you'll be raking in money. And both Marvel/DC try their own Varient editions with different covers and the like. But really, nothing like that stands out anymore because you give so many out that you can't quite possibly make money off of it. And as someone mentioned earlier, that sort of thing nearly killed the industry in the 80s.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 6, 2008 21:26:09 GMT -5
Stan Lee's crazy bullpen rantings.
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Post by Z-A Sandbaggin' Son of a b!%@h on Apr 6, 2008 21:27:39 GMT -5
I miss paying $1.00 or $1.25 for them.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Apr 6, 2008 21:29:44 GMT -5
Stan Lee's crazy bullpen rantings. That reminds me, the super cool and retro (though at the time considered modern) t-shirts for like 10 or 12 dollars is also what I miss when I read the merchandise page.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Apr 6, 2008 21:40:11 GMT -5
Stan Lee's crazy bullpen rantings. Yeah they were fun reads. For some reason I miss Marvel having those little subscription order forms right on the last page of the comic.
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Post by MiLo Duck on Apr 6, 2008 21:52:06 GMT -5
I miss comics period.
I went without for some time due to various financial difficulties. In that time, several years, I just lost my place. I don't even know were I would begin catching up again. Hell when I left Kyle Rayner was Green Lantern, somehow Hal Jordan's psycho ass is back in the suit. That alone would take some catching up on, let alone the hundred's of other characters who I am sure who have changed quite a bit.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Apr 6, 2008 21:54:14 GMT -5
I miss comics period. I went without for some time due to various financial difficulties. In that time, several years, I just lost my place. I don't even know were I would begin catching up again. Hell when I left Kyle Rayner was Green Lantern, somehow Hal Jordan's psycho ass is back in the suit. That alone would take some catching up on, let alone the hundred's of other characters who I am sure who have changed quite a bit. Hal Jordan is back. I don't like how they did it, but he's back. Don't worry, Kyle's still around too.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 6, 2008 21:57:06 GMT -5
Covers that actually had something to do with the story inside, and not just some generic pin-up cover of a character posing on a cool background.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Apr 6, 2008 22:05:39 GMT -5
Covers that actually had something to do with the story inside, and not just some generic pin-up cover of a character posing on a cool background. Like this one of Lois Lane having gorilla feet? ![](http://www.superdickery.com/images/other/1296_4_066.jpg)
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Post by MiLo Duck on Apr 6, 2008 22:06:33 GMT -5
I miss comics period. I went without for some time due to various financial difficulties. In that time, several years, I just lost my place. I don't even know were I would begin catching up again. Hell when I left Kyle Rayner was Green Lantern, somehow Hal Jordan's psycho ass is back in the suit. That alone would take some catching up on, let alone the hundred's of other characters who I am sure who have changed quite a bit. Hal Jordan is back. I don't like how they did it, but he's back. Don't worry, Kyle's still around too. Well that's comforting I guess. I know a lot of people whined about it back in the day, but I always looked at it as one of most awesome things in comics. I loved Hal, but I really felt his pain and road to madness when he snapped. I was really proud of DC for putting out a good story with some grit and sticking to their guns.
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