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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Apr 12, 2008 1:47:56 GMT -5
You guys know what, I've worked at a video store the last 10 years and I take my job very seriously and consider myself good at it, and I still never knew about this producers cut until I came to the boards! Man, you're living the dream. Wanna know a sad story (and I'm not making any of this up) - my entire life I have DREAMED of working in a video store. I have applied to video stores on three separate occasions (once at home, once when I moved away to college, and once at a new store now that I'm back home), and I've been turned down every time. I told myself just a couple weeks ago that I ought to reapply at this newer video store, and then just walk in there with my ap and say "hire me because I GUARANTEE you that I know more about movies than anybody else in this store." Would that work? Deadpool, can I work in your video store? ;D |
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Apr 12, 2008 1:49:14 GMT -5
Actually, with your knowledge of movies (well horror movies anyways, I don't know what you know about others) I would hire you as long as you were good with customers.
I wouldn't say that "I know more... GARUNTEE..." part. It makes you come off a little cocky, and they might think you would act like that towards customers too.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 12, 2008 1:55:31 GMT -5
Actually, I'm applying to one as well.
I've already worked at a comic/games shop, so why not tackle another interest?
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Apr 12, 2008 2:11:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice, Deadpool. I actually review movies for my local paper, as well - I see two movies at the theater every week.
I'm really having difficulty putting thoughts into words for the last two movies in this dog and pony show, however. It's just too damn depressing - it might be a day or so.
Actually, I have a different idea for the "Halloween: Resurrection" review that everybody should love. We'll just wait and see.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 12, 2008 2:14:29 GMT -5
Lessee...
Thorn cult dropped; Jamie Lee returns, but dies again due to a convoluted retcon; Reality TV and Busta Rhymes.
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Apr 12, 2008 2:15:44 GMT -5
Lessee... Thorn cult dropped; Jamie Lee returns, but dies again due to a convoluted retcon; Reality TV and Busta Rhymes. Yup - that's the sad part, you can sum up these next two stupid movies in one sentence. |
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Post by paulbearer on Apr 12, 2008 23:07:34 GMT -5
I kinda liked H5 , never really paid attention to the cops.....also I liked the Thorn cult even though it could've been better developed.
H20 was a bit too teeny bopper imo.....
H1 , H2 & H20 is one series , H4-6 is another story line.
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Apr 13, 2008 10:26:41 GMT -5
 HALLOWEEN: H20 1998 Director: Steve Miner You know, "Scream" was the single most important thing to happen to horror movies in the past twenty years. Think about it - there were practically NO horror movies that were successful on a large level throughout the '90s, and then "Scream" hit. We had a little mini-boom in horror flicks for the couple years immediately following it, which was a lot of fun to see. And for a while, kids were interested in slasher flicks again. Of course, this was a double-edged sword - eventually, the constant barrage of "Scream" knockoffs wound up being extremely banal and stupid after a while, and it is due to the movie that just about every horror/thriller film now believes it must have some mystery killer/reveal ending. Not to mention horror remake after horror remake in the 21st century. So all this leads me to...Halloween H20. Effectively admitting that the events of Parts 4-6 never happened, it was an attempt to return the series to its more simplistic roots. While that part of this film was successful, the rest is...well, not so much. So, Jamie Lee Curtis is back. She has changed her name, now serving as the headmistress at a private boarding school. She also has a son - and said son is portrayed by Josh Hartnett. And there's another guy in the white Shatner mask who is back as well... The middle chapters of this movie really drag. There are many, many obvious "Scream" imprints - I believe the script was actually punched up by Kevin Williamson himself. One of the hallmarks of horror movies of this time were extremely pop culture savvy/overtly talky teenage characters, and the dialogue in this film dates it a little bit. By the way, LL Cool J is in this movie as well - he's one of my favorite people in all of entertainment, and is totally wasted in this movie's token black guy role. Even Michael Myers feels dragged down, and not quite up to snuff with the fantastic character that had been established in H1 and 2. In those movies, Myers seemed like a pissed off monster - now, twenty years later, he seemed like he was an ancient museum piece trotted out for a few quick bucks. The film is at its best in the closing segments - the big confrontation, all these years later, between Laurie Strode and Michael Myers is indeed pretty entertaining stuff. Just not enough to recommend this movie. ** |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 13, 2008 10:43:04 GMT -5
TR already said he didn't see the Producer's Cut, I think, a page back. I wish I had gotten my hands on the bootleg when I was at Wizard World Philly a few years back. I'd like to see it, myself. Also, I want you to know that Lucio Fulci is my filmmaker idol. Thanks! I always loved the beyond. I just wish I had read the whole thread first before posting that.  |
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Apr 13, 2008 10:48:08 GMT -5
 HALLOWEEN: RESURRECTION 2002 Director: Rick Rosenthal And here we are. The review that I've been dreading. So what have we got with this one? Well, it starts with an EPIC retcon - if you'll recall, the conclusion of Halloween H20 featured Laurie Strode beheading Michael Myers. Well, it turns out that it WASN'T Myers - just some random guy whom he had managed to switch clothes with. And after a pretty suspenseful opening involving the final confrontation between Strode and Myers, it devolves into utter crap. A reality show producer (Busta Rhymes - yes, the Busta Rhymes) has assembled a wholly annoying crew to man the Myers family household...on Halloween. And you know where it goes from here. You know, instead of me throwing a fit on screen, I've decided to try something new with this one. You see, this movie elicated a very emotional response in the horror community, to say the least. "Halloween" was a horror movie that touched a lot of people's lives - indeed, it is the reason why many, including myself, became obsessed with said movies in the first place. So, what did the people think of "Halloween: Resurrection?" "The powers-that-be behind that series have literally made a self-parody movie without actually knowing it. The movie is just embarrassing." MY BROTHER (RIP) "Dear God...Resurrection...the only enjoyment I got from that was seeing Michael kill a bunch of reality TV stars. Of course, that enjoyment was quickly gone when Michael got his ass kicked by Busta smurfing Rhymes..." HOLLYWOOD “Ugghhhh... Halloween: Resurection is so terrible. I mean on so many levels. People talk about Halloween (2007) changing Michael's character, no... Resurection raped any character he had already. Not only when he was physically being beat up by Busta, but also when he was sitting there taking orders from Busta while hiding. Like Michael would have just stood there and took that crap.” DEADPOOL “This movie is so MTV generation that watching it is extremely painful. Growing up on the original two movies, it’s sad to see just what this series has become and that the people behind it apparently care so little for the people who made them very rich.” DEREK YOUNG, fellow horror nerd “Well, it tries to comment on reality TV and fails it that. It tries to be a horror movie and it fails at that. And it tries to be an entertaining, fun little flick – EPIC FAIL at that.” ROBERT LEE, movie aficianado Well, the votes are in on this one, kids. So, from all of us horror fans those in charge of the "Halloween" series... ....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........'...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\.... NO STARS |
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 13, 2008 11:52:03 GMT -5
....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........'...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\.... Very apt. Seen as that's kinda like what watching Resurrection felt like. |
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Post by plushtar on Apr 13, 2008 12:02:01 GMT -5
With H20, you took the words out of my mouth; Scream clone it is. And Ressurection is just plain bad. Part 4 and H20 can be compared to the original and the remake; the common feature in all four of these films is that they all have the same story. Part four was a good uninentional remake, while H20 is the polar opposite.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 13, 2008 12:13:04 GMT -5
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Post by Jiren on Apr 13, 2008 12:15:53 GMT -5
I've seen the Producers cut and it is a better movie than curse because it makes more sense
BUT i hate everything about the thorn angle, so i still didn't like it much (But the Ending kicked ass)
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Apr 13, 2008 14:57:42 GMT -5
You guys know what, I've worked at a video store the last 10 years and I take my job very seriously and consider myself good at it, and I still never knew about this producers cut until I came to the boards! Man, you're living the dream. Wanna know a sad story (and I'm not making any of this up) - my entire life I have DREAMED of working in a video store. I have applied to video stores on three separate occasions (once at home, once when I moved away to college, and once at a new store now that I'm back home), and I've been turned down every time. I told myself just a couple weeks ago that I ought to reapply at this newer video store, and then just walk in there with my ap and say "hire me because I GUARANTEE you that I know more about movies than anybody else in this store." Would that work? Deadpool, can I work in your video store? ;D Man, I worked at the local Movie Gallery for a few months straight out of college (I got a Batchelor of Arts in media studies: film and TV, by the way). Man, I hated that friggin' store. My boss was a total dick, and I constantly had to watch people come up to me with copies of "Larry the Cable Guy: Health Inspector" and whatever forgettable tripe Kate Hudson had last starred in. We had no selection in the Gallery area (which was all the older movies), but we had dozens of copies of whatever big budget bomb Hollywood just cut their losses on theatrically. When people asked me what was good, I'd always have two different answers: 1.) If my boss was there (which was rare), I would tell them whatever waste of time had just come out. 2.) If I was by myself (practically all the time), I would tell them, quite simply, that we had next to nothing worth renting. And all the while, customers would tell me that they liked me, and hated my manager. ;D Well, after I quit, that same manager ultimately wound up getting fired, and then the store closed down last year some time, along with a bunch of other Movie Galleries throughout the country. Anyway, since I missed the opportunity to comment on them as the reviews were coming in, here's my thoughts on H2O and Resurrection. First, ugh, I hate Scream. Yeah, it was successful, and Rose McGowan looked hot, but it was like the movie was trying too hard to be funny, and generally failing, and not trying hard enough to be really scary. Which brings ME to H2O: obviously, if I hated Scream so much, Scream-Lite would not be my cup of tea. And of course, it wasn't. It's an easily forgettable little motion picture. Halloween: Resurrection (or Desecration, if you prefer) piqued my interest based solely on the ending of H2O. I wondered how they were bringing Michael back after a beheading. Well, the retcon was an easy cop-out (Don't ask me what I would've preferred. I'm weird). I saw this one at the local Drive-In movie theater, and as such, I felt like I had briefly slipped back into the 80s. Sitting in a lawn chair, watching a truly awful Halloween knock-off, I couldn't help it. Then I remembered, "Wait a second, this isn't supposed to be a Halloween knock-off, it's supposed to be a sequel!" It's one thing for some douchebag in the middle of nowhere to try to cash in on John Carpenter's success (and, sometimes,though rarely, succeeding and creating something that has legs in its own right), but I expect more from the Halloween franchise itself. Like it's been said, Halloween 1 and 2 are benchmarks of the slasher genre, and to see the series go from leader of the pack to also-ran in H2O (or, you could make the argument that 4-6 were trying to capitalize on the Friday the 13th series's success) and then limping to the finish line with Resurrection, it's difficult not to feel anything but crestfallen with this franchise. Well, that's probably my longest and boring-est post for this year. See ya! |
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 13, 2008 14:59:46 GMT -5
Oh god Ressurection was awful. It's got Robocop 3 heat from me.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 13, 2008 17:51:52 GMT -5
Oh god Ressurection was awful. It's got Robocop 3 heat from me. I hear the United States government shows it to captured terrorists in guantanamo bay.  SPOILERS AHEADOne of my big complaints is how soon into the film they took Laurie out. I mean this character was a important part of the series. Sure, I understand why Jaime Lee Curtis wanted to move on. Yet to kill her off so early into the film and then go into an almost totally different movie I think really disrespected a lot of what made Halloween special. Of course, it could be said it loss a bit when Donald Pleasance died and H20 came about. |
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Apr 13, 2008 20:47:23 GMT -5
"HALLOWEEN" FROM BEST TO WORST
1. Halloween - Absolute perfection, haunting examination of human evil and courage and conviction in the face of it
2. Halloween II - Manages the almost impossible task of making Michael Myers even MORE unstoppable than he was in the original
3. The Return of Michael Myers - Nice, fun little film, with two intriguing heroes in Harris and Cornell, along with Pleasence in exceptional form
4. Season of the Witch - An interesting stand-alone tale, although the third act bogs it down
5. H20 - One of the better "Scream" clones to come out in the late '90s, along with the novelty of Jamie Lee being in the series once more not quite enough to save a rather tedious horror flick
6. The Revenge of Michael Myers - Lots of plot threads that lead nowhere, a mute Danielle Harris (wtf??) and the two dumb comic relief cops - enough said
7. The Curse of Michael Myers - Utterly nonsensical, unscary retcon of the awesome Myers character, along with an almost inactive Donald Pleasence
8. Resurrection - One of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I've seen some crap
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Apr 13, 2008 21:27:00 GMT -5
Man, you're living the dream. Wanna know a sad story (and I'm not making any of this up) - my entire life I have DREAMED of working in a video store. I have applied to video stores on three separate occasions (once at home, once when I moved away to college, and once at a new store now that I'm back home), and I've been turned down every time. I told myself just a couple weeks ago that I ought to reapply at this newer video store, and then just walk in there with my ap and say "hire me because I GUARANTEE you that I know more about movies than anybody else in this store." Would that work? Deadpool, can I work in your video store? ;D Man, I worked at the local Movie Gallery for a few months straight out of college (I got a Batchelor of Arts in media studies: film and TV, by the way). Man, I hated that friggin' store. My boss was a total dick, and I constantly had to watch people come up to me with copies of "Larry the Cable Guy: Health Inspector" and whatever forgettable tripe Kate Hudson had last starred in. We had no selection in the Gallery area (which was all the older movies), but we had dozens of copies of whatever big budget bomb Hollywood just cut their losses on theatrically. When people asked me what was good, I'd always have two different answers: 1.) If my boss was there (which was rare), I would tell them whatever waste of time had just come out. 2.) If I was by myself (practically all the time), I would tell them, quite simply, that we had next to nothing worth renting. And all the while, customers would tell me that they liked me, and hated my manager. ;D Well, after I quit, that same manager ultimately wound up getting fired, and then the store closed down last year some time, along with a bunch of other Movie Galleries throughout the country. Anyway, since I missed the opportunity to comment on them as the reviews were coming in, here's my thoughts on H2O and Resurrection. First, ugh, I hate Scream. Yeah, it was successful, and Rose McGowan looked hot, but it was like the movie was trying too hard to be funny, and generally failing, and not trying hard enough to be really scary. Which brings ME to H2O: obviously, if I hated Scream so much, Scream-Lite would not be my cup of tea. And of course, it wasn't. It's an easily forgettable little motion picture. Halloween: Resurrection (or Desecration, if you prefer) piqued my interest based solely on the ending of H2O. I wondered how they were bringing Michael back after a beheading. Well, the retcon was an easy cop-out (Don't ask me what I would've preferred. I'm weird). I saw this one at the local Drive-In movie theater, and as such, I felt like I had briefly slipped back into the 80s. Sitting in a lawn chair, watching a truly awful Halloween knock-off, I couldn't help it. Then I remembered, "Wait a second, this isn't supposed to be a Halloween knock-off, it's supposed to be a sequel!" It's one thing for some douchebag in the middle of nowhere to try to cash in on John Carpenter's success (and, sometimes,though rarely, succeeding and creating something that has legs in its own right), but I expect more from the Halloween franchise itself. Like it's been said, Halloween 1 and 2 are benchmarks of the slasher genre, and to see the series go from leader of the pack to also-ran in H2O (or, you could make the argument that 4-6 were trying to capitalize on the Friday the 13th series's success) and then limping to the finish line with Resurrection, it's difficult not to feel anything but crestfallen with this franchise. Well, that's probably my longest and boring-est post for this year. See ya! I hate Movie Gallery. I'm not getting started here but they are corporate cut throats that strive to put hard working independent owners out of bussiness. It's not just a casuality of what they do, it is their bussiness model. Anyway, I work at a independent store. My grandfathers. |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Apr 13, 2008 23:00:38 GMT -5
I hate Movie Gallery. I'm not getting started here but they are corporate cut throats that strive to put hard working independent owners out of bussiness. It's not just a casuality of what they do, it is their bussiness model. Anyway, I work at a independent store. My grandfathers. I'm pretty sure I read your diatribe about Movie Gallery when there was threads about a bunch of those and Hollywood Videos goin' out of business. And I know they were trying to put independent owners out of business, as the one I worked at opened up just down the street from a local mom and pop video store. The only reason I worked at MG was the M and P wasn't hiring...I still did all my renting over there, and stole from MG all the time! ;D |
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