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Post by bsands on Nov 13, 2005 11:01:09 GMT -5
Just wondering if you ever wrestled him and how you found him to be?
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Post by jobber2thestars on Nov 13, 2005 13:25:31 GMT -5
I was just thinking of putting something like this up.
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Nov 14, 2005 11:04:24 GMT -5
Hmm, I don't think they were in WWE together, unless it was some Golga vs Eddy match. Perhaps in WCW when he was The Shark?
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Nov 14, 2005 22:55:03 GMT -5
Golga and Tenta was gone from the WWE by the time Guerrero got there. The only times they were is the same building in the WWE I would believe Wrestlemania X7.
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Nov 15, 2005 10:44:38 GMT -5
Golga and Tenta was gone from the WWE by the time Guerrero got there. The only times they were is the same building in the WWE I would believe Wrestlemania X7. So there goes another dream match... Semper Fi, Erik Majorwitz
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 15, 2005 13:12:59 GMT -5
They were both in WCW at the same time, weren't they?
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Post by bsands on Nov 15, 2005 14:54:13 GMT -5
I believe I put the question to Mr Tenta!
Anyway just because they were not in the WWF at the same time doesn`t mean they didn`t know each other he might have met Eddie before at some other event or knew his family in some way.
Give the man a chance to answer.
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Post by skyday1402 on Nov 15, 2005 15:41:11 GMT -5
Give the man a chance to answer. Maybe he would if he were still around here. He's taking a minor break from posting and I'm sure everyone will know when he is back. In the meantime, instead of asking him questions, there is a thread up wishing him well in light of recent health discoveries.. go pay your respects.
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Nov 16, 2005 1:36:57 GMT -5
Damn I hate cancer...
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Post by arriba on Nov 16, 2005 6:57:58 GMT -5
Damn I hate cancer... Semper Fi, Erik Majorwitz I don't think anyones a big fan
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Post by Earthquake-GEAUX LSU TIGERS on Nov 16, 2005 11:29:26 GMT -5
Just wondering if you ever wrestled him and how you found him to be? I never wrestled him, but found him to be a great person. I met Eddie in Japan, and WCW.He was a super person, a born-again Christian. I'm very saddened by his sudden death, and wish his family my condolenses. 'Quake
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Post by skyday1402 on Nov 19, 2005 13:26:34 GMT -5
I respect your opinion, but I do disagree in some aspects.
The fact that Eddie was a Christian shouldn't dictate what sort of angle he participates in on a scripted show. IMO, that is like saying that someone who has strong Christian beliefs shouldn't take a movie roll as a murderer or a violent person even though they are merely playing a character.
Again, just my opinion, but I think that it is a cop out if someone used their religious beliefs to turn down a storyline. Professional wrestling has never been known the be exactly the classiest sport in the world so if their beliefs are that strong that it hinders them from performing their job duties, maybe they should seek another form of employment.
Rey and Eddie were also real life friends and knew each others families well. If it were simply thrown together by a member of the writing team between two men who had no connections, then I would still understand them doing it, just not using the performers real life child. In this case, since they were close in real life, it added some depth and realism to the angle.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by dirtyvicar on Nov 19, 2005 13:26:35 GMT -5
No way 'Quake. You shouldn't be run off. Your opinions matter too, and of all of us crappers you did know the man. I'm glad you said what you did. if someone didn't like it then tough for them.
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Post by Marksus on Nov 19, 2005 13:56:57 GMT -5
Quake, I hope no-one is offended by your statement. The fact is you knew Eddie and everyone is aware of his problems. I think when people pass away everyone seems to change their opinion of the deceased because they are dead. When Princess Diana died the press went from critising her to making her a saint, i'm not saying Eddie was a bad guy but i hope his death makes others who abuse drugs now or are presented with the chance to in the future see what happens even when you become clean.
If any of this is found offensive i apologise i'm just trying to express my mixed up emotions.
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Post by EJS on Nov 19, 2005 14:38:39 GMT -5
Yeah the difference between an acting role and a wrestling angle though is that in wrestling you're playing yourself. It's a character, but it's still you. Perhaps this isn't as true for the ridiculously cartoonish gimmicks, but those are few and far between these days. Basically I think Eddie probably did the angle to try and help Rey. Since really, that was the most high profile thing Rey has done in the WWE.
Though you have things a bit mixed up, Quake. "His angle with Rey Mysterio basically said Eddie had sex with Rey's wife, and that Rey's kid was really Eddie's. So this program promoted "adultery", did it not?"
The angle actually was that this all happened during the time Eddie and his wife Vickie were seperated. Meanwhile Rey and his wife were trying to concieve but couldn't. Eddie was basically at rock bottom at this point, and had a fling with what he called "some s***". She got pregnant, and they decided to let Rey raise the child as his own, because he and his wife desperately wanted a son.
Not sure that makes it any better, but thats how the storyline actually went.
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Post by tambourineman on Nov 19, 2005 14:41:53 GMT -5
I applaud Quake for his honest opinions.
As a fan, I cannot comment on Eddie's real-life character. I do not know how much of a Christian he was, how much of a family man he was, etc. I do believe that the testimonials given by the other wrestlers should be taken as a good indication of his character. Particularly, the first-hand experiences accounted by some of how Eddie has helped them were very touching.
I do feel that Eddie's decision to be a part of the adultery storyline should not be held against his character, whatever his true character may be. Just because he wanted to be a part of a storyline that dealt with adultery, I don't think he is at all saying adultery is okay. As for his decisions to incorporate real-life family members, we will never really know his true motivations. Maybe he just wanted his family members to be a part of an industry that he loves, even if that industry sometimes embrances racy issues.
As for the steroids... well, again, I don't know what it's like to be a wrestler. But from what I've read, it's a very painful and difficult profession. Everybody wants to succeed at what they love, and sometimes, we make decisions that place our own health at risk. How common is it for a student to drink cup after cup of coffee to stay up all night studying? Maybe that's not as damaging as doing steroids, but it's driven by the same motivations. As far as the steroids issue goes, I think that this is something that must be attacked from the top of the administration -- the wrestlers should not be blamed. Wrestlers must be treated better!!
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Post by Earthquake-GEAUX LSU TIGERS on Nov 19, 2005 17:50:59 GMT -5
See, it is a scripted show, but it was his own idea. If it was still Vince's idea, then people may say he sold out to money. I feel "it is a continuation" of oneself as well. Adultery is any married person having sex. Being "seperated" doesn't give you a green light, or make it non-adulterous. And I'm not posting all this to say Eddie was bad, I loved him, it's just that I'm confused personally by some of his last actions. Jake Roberts drinks again, and he's Satan to everyone. People even criticized Ted Dibiase for even going back to WWE. Why? Sometimes fans confuse me too, I guess. Like I said, I'm confused, maybe I should never have posted these feelings in public. 'Quake
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Post by Earthquake-GEAUX LSU TIGERS on Nov 19, 2005 18:06:34 GMT -5
As you may have seen, I have deleted that post. It's been bothering me since I posted it. I don't want it to seem like I was bashing Eddie, and as I reread it, I did nothing good to his rememberance. I haven't bashed any other wrestlers, and don't know why I would start now, especially with someone I consider a friend. I apologize to anyone I may have offended. I got to thinking, "Let he with no sin....." so I would have to step to the back of the line. I don't know if in "real life" if Eddie broke any commandments, My conscience tells me no, as he was strong about being born-again. I guess I don't know Eddie well enough to know why he felt the angle was okay, maybe it WAS because it was scripted. Maybe I don't know enough about my own religion. Maybe I'm confused with me, not Eddie. Anyways, my apologies. 'Quake
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Post by tambourineman on Nov 19, 2005 18:27:29 GMT -5
Don't worry about it Mr. Earthquake.
I personally thought it was really cool the way you expressed how you feel. I don't think your thoughts were intended to be hurtful, and I think those thoughts are ones that other people are having as well.
It's by getting these thoughts out into the open that we can explore complex issues, hear other people's views, and learn from each other. I thought it was a great discussion!
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Post by dirtyvicar on Nov 20, 2005 14:29:39 GMT -5
Don't worry about it Mr. Earthquake. I personally thought it was really cool the way you expressed how you feel. I don't think your thoughts were intended to be hurtful, and I think those thoughts are ones that other people are having as well. It's by getting these thoughts out into the open that we can explore complex issues, hear other people's views, and learn from each other. I thought it was a great discussion! I concur 'Quake.
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