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Post by macdaddysquid on Feb 26, 2008 15:32:24 GMT -5
I agree with Cena, pizza is better with peppers and onions...
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Post by rra on Feb 26, 2008 15:33:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't get Cena on this one.
The Rock inhereted love of wrestling from his family, loved it enough to endure years of struggling through the flea pits of Memphis, then WWF, until "The Rock" became a selling product.
But thing is, he's done it all. Maybe his hunger was satisfied, and just didn't have as much love anymore. Would you rather he stay and not give a damn about his ring work?
Cena's problem perhaps is that despite the last few years, he has failed to reach Rock's level of celebrity.
Then again, as Meltzer put it, The Rock isn't a wrestler who became a movie star, but a movie star who once was a wrestler.
With THE MARINE, I don't think Cena can ever pull off what the Rock has done so far.
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 26, 2008 15:34:04 GMT -5
The Sun, eh?  Yes. The Sun. The most truthful and reliable paper EVER.  The Sun makes the NY Post look like the New York Times. But they seem to like wrestling, so that's a point in their favor. |
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 26, 2008 15:35:19 GMT -5
This could be completely bullshit, but I remember hearing once that Rock considered making more apperances for the WWE but was deeply offended by the Eddiesplotation storyline involving Randy Orton and Rey Mysterio.
Either way, I detect a hint of jealous from one Mr. Cena, could be me though...
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Post by dh03grad on Feb 26, 2008 15:37:20 GMT -5
What does Cena mean by "contribute" anyway? Bury current heels on the mic? Job to Cena? Show up randomly to do nothing like Foley or Austin?
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 26, 2008 15:41:41 GMT -5
What does Cena mean by "contribute" anyway? Bury current heels on the mic? Job to Cena? Show up randomly to do nothing like Foley or Austin? Probably the latter, if I understood correctly, since he seems to be talking about it in terms of a "legacy" thing more than anything else. I actually think it cheapens people's legacy to keep going through with the "surprise appearance" stuff, I haven't been entertained or surprised by Austin's "surprise appearances" for some time now. |
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Post by Mickie Sixx on Feb 26, 2008 15:44:07 GMT -5
To add an interesting spin, read this description:
A guy joined WWE and had a fantastic career, won championships, main evented PPVs, and was extremely over with the fans. Even to this day, they still talk about him. Like him or not - he made a huge impression on wrestling. But now he's moved on, wants to try to achieve success in another field. Wreslting was a chapter in his book, and he's moved on to the next one.
How come when this statement is applied to The Rock, people wish him well, but when applied to the Ultimate Warrior, he is seen as a traitor, a scumbag and an ungrateful SOB? I'm no Warrior mark, I just fail to see past the double standards here.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 26, 2008 15:45:19 GMT -5
To add an interesting spin, read this description: A guy joined WWE and had a fantastic career, won championships, main evented PPVs, and was extremely over with the fans. Even to this day, they still talk about him. Like him or not - he made a huge impression on wrestling. But now he's moved on, wants to try to achieve success in another field. Wreslting was a chapter in his book, and he's moved on to the next one. How come when this statement is applied to The Rock, people wish him well, but when applied to the Ultimate Warrior, he is seen as a traitor, a scumbag and an ungrateful SOB? I'm no Warrior mark, I just fail to see past the double standards here. I can't speak for everyone, but it doesn't matter whomever it is, if they want to move on from wrestling, more power to them. |
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 26, 2008 15:45:36 GMT -5
To add an interesting spin, read this description: A guy joined WWE and had a fantastic career, won championships, main evented PPVs, and was extremely over with the fans. Even to this day, they still talk about him. Like him or not - he made a huge impression on wrestling. But now he's moved on, wants to try to achieve success in another field. Wreslting was a chapter in his book, and he's moved on to the next one. How come when this statement is applied to The Rock, people wish him well, but when applied to the Ultimate Warrior, he is seen as a traitor, a scumbag and an ungrateful SOB? I'm no Warrior mark, I just fail to see past the double standards here. Rock doesn't post articles online where he whines about how McMahon is the Devil and Hogan screwed him over. Call it the "Shane Douglas Clause". Warrior wasn't so much successful outside of wrestling as he was a guy who priced himself out of the business. |
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Post by saggyboyflair on Feb 26, 2008 15:46:19 GMT -5
Cena's just pissed because he never will be as big as the rock regardless of how long or how hard they push him down the fan's throats. In 3 years Rocky became more over and popular than Cena will be in his whole career.
Who really owes who? While u can say the Rock wouldnt be where he is today without wwe... If it wasnt for Rock and Austin, wwe wouldnt be around. Wcw would have buried them in the ratings and put them out of business
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 26, 2008 15:47:35 GMT -5
To add an interesting spin, read this description: A guy joined WWE and had a fantastic career, won championships, main evented PPVs, and was extremely over with the fans. Even to this day, they still talk about him. Like him or not - he made a huge impression on wrestling. But now he's moved on, wants to try to achieve success in another field. Wreslting was a chapter in his book, and he's moved on to the next one. How come when this statement is applied to The Rock, people wish him well, but when applied to the Ultimate Warrior, he is seen as a traitor, a scumbag and an ungrateful SOB? I'm no Warrior mark, I just fail to see past the double standards here. Warrior was over for like...a year. Rock's been over for 10+ |
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Post by Edison taps to the ARMBAR! on Feb 26, 2008 15:47:50 GMT -5
Cena is right! Rock is a big poop head who eats boogers for breakfast! Stinky doo doo head.
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Post by MGH on Feb 26, 2008 15:48:13 GMT -5
To add an interesting spin, read this description: A guy joined WWE and had a fantastic career, won championships, main evented PPVs, and was extremely over with the fans. Even to this day, they still talk about him. Like him or not - he made a huge impression on wrestling. But now he's moved on, wants to try to achieve success in another field. Wreslting was a chapter in his book, and he's moved on to the next one. How come when this statement is applied to The Rock, people wish him well, but when applied to the Ultimate Warrior, he is seen as a traitor, a scumbag and an ungrateful SOB? I'm no Warrior mark, I just fail to see past the double standards here. I think the different type of human being both men are have a lot more to do with it in that case. Rock's never been known as a backstage problem, bad businessman, quite frankly poor human being. Warrior would no show, apparently had the attitude of a prick, and compare him talking about wrestling and WWE after he was done to what Rock has to say. There are your differences. |
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Post by Celgress on Feb 26, 2008 15:49:59 GMT -5
How much more does the Rock need to give honestly? Until he's crippled in a wheelchair like Dynamite Kid? He did his part, had a helluva run in WWE from 98-01. I don't hate Cena or anything but who's he to say that Rock doesn't love wrestling? I do hate Cena, and Rock has done more for wrestling than Super Cena ever will. |
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Post by dh03grad on Feb 26, 2008 15:51:51 GMT -5
To add an interesting spin, read this description: A guy joined WWE and had a fantastic career, won championships, main evented PPVs, and was extremely over with the fans. Even to this day, they still talk about him. Like him or not - he made a huge impression on wrestling. But now he's moved on, wants to try to achieve success in another field. Wreslting was a chapter in his book, and he's moved on to the next one. How come when this statement is applied to The Rock, people wish him well, but when applied to the Ultimate Warrior, he is seen as a traitor, a scumbag and an ungrateful SOB? I'm no Warrior mark, I just fail to see past the double standards here. Rock doesn't post articles online where he whines about how McMahon is the Devil and Hogan screwed him over. Call it the "Shane Douglas Clause". Warrior wasn't so much successful outside of wrestling as he was a guy who priced himself out of the business. He was so successful wrestling that he hasnt gotten a wrestling paycheck in 10 years and hes doing just fine. Very few of the hundreds of Warrior's posts were about wrestling. Usually after a wrestling death or the WWE DVD. Him and The Rock both moved on thankfully. Of course Rock is far more successful. |
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Post by JMA on Feb 26, 2008 15:51:59 GMT -5
Apparently, not letting WWE use you until you're a dried up old husk constitutes selling out. Who knew?
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 26, 2008 15:54:21 GMT -5
Rock doesn't post articles online where he whines about how McMahon is the Devil and Hogan screwed him over. Call it the "Shane Douglas Clause". Warrior wasn't so much successful outside of wrestling as he was a guy who priced himself out of the business. He was so successful wrestling that he hasnt gotten a wrestling paycheck in 10 years and hes doing just fine. Very few of the hundreds of Warrior's posts were about wrestling. Usually after a wrestling death or the WWE DVD. Him and The Rock both moved on thankfully. Of course Rock is far more successful. If he "moved on", why is he still suing over defamation? Warrior knows the only reason people remember him is his wrestling days, he has no real success outside of wrestling. That said, he's still much more tolerable than Brock "I wanna be a real athlete so smurf my megapush" Lesnar. |
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Post by Scree is SCIENCE! ENERGY! on Feb 26, 2008 15:56:51 GMT -5
I think Cena is more upset that Rock seems to "HIDE" from his Pro Wrestling days. Like he is ashamed of it. "Who's The Rock? I'm Dwayne Johnson. From what I can tell that seems to be more of the case. It's not that he left, but that he's really distancing himself for the company that made him and got him where he is now (by pushing him I mean, Rock had the talent just needed the exposure). While I don't know how much of this is true being I haven't seen a lot of Rock's recent appearances, so I don't know if I agree with him or not on that assessment. |
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Post by dh03grad on Feb 26, 2008 15:56:54 GMT -5
He was so successful wrestling that he hasnt gotten a wrestling paycheck in 10 years and hes doing just fine. Very few of the hundreds of Warrior's posts were about wrestling. Usually after a wrestling death or the WWE DVD. Him and The Rock both moved on thankfully. Of course Rock is far more successful. If he "moved on", why is he still suing over defamation? Warrior knows the only reason people remember him is his wrestling days, he has no real success outside of wrestling. That said, he's still much more tolerable than Brock "I wanna be a real athlete so smurf my megapush" Lesnar. He feels that the WWE is tarnishing his name with false information impeding his ability to move on. The courts will decide that. |
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 26, 2008 15:59:36 GMT -5
He feels that the WWE is tarnishing his name with false information impeding his ability to move on. The courts will decide that. Then he shouldn't post podcasts that tarnish "the business" as a whole and make people feel guilty for ever supporting him. His Hogan grudge alone is becoming as goofy as Macho Man's, and you don't see him suing, do you? |
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