Cena Pissed Off With The Rock

[dh03grad]

mikeybadnews said:

I think almost every wrestler would leave if they had the chance to do something as lucrative or more lucrative than wrestling. IMO wrestling is like one step above reality star and a few steps below sitcom star.

Exactly. What does everyone think Hulk Hogan was doing when he disappeared in 1992? Bret Hart in 1996? Chris Jericho from 05-07?

[AriadosMan]

dh03grad said:

mikeybadnews said:

I think almost every wrestler would leave if they had the chance to do something as lucrative or more lucrative than wrestling. IMO wrestling is like one step above reality star and a few steps below sitcom star.

Exactly. What does everyone think Hulk Hogan was doing when he disappeared in 1992? Bret Hart in 1996? Chris Jericho from 05-07?

What was Jericho doing exactly

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wolfmoon103100 said:

I think Cena is more upset that Rock seems to "HIDE" from his Pro Wrestling days. Like he is ashamed of it. "Who's The Rock? I'm Dwayne Johnson.

I believe he calls himself Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson so he doesn't have to pay Vince royalty money. that's more of a financial thing than any implied disrespect of the business. I don't think I've ever heard The Rock disparage the business in any way, in most interviews where it still comes up he seems pretty greatful for the opportunity that being a pro wrestler created for him.

[dh03grad]

realfakerazor said:

dh03grad said:

Exactly. What does everyone think Hulk Hogan was doing when he disappeared in 1992? Bret Hart in 1996? Chris Jericho from 05-07?

What was Jericho doing exactly

Trying to get acting work and a new career off the ground. We see the fruits of that every Monday Night.

[AriadosMan]

dh03grad said:

realfakerazor said:

What was Jericho doing exactly

Trying to get acting work and a new career off the ground. We see the fruits of that every Monday Night.

So you're saying he was an unsuccessful version of The Rock? Interesting...

[Mac]

realfakerazor said:

dh03grad said:

Trying to get acting work and a new career off the ground. We see the fruits of that every Monday Night.

So you're saying he was an unsuccessful version of The Rock? Interesting...

Most wrestlers if not all wrestlers not named "the Rock" or "The Body" seem to fail when they try to crossover into some other venture thats going to be more high profile than wrestling. Jericho and Trish Stratus both went the reality show route when nothing else was happening.

[Bishblast]

We'd all love for Rock to come back. But Rock was smart, he made his money, left his mark, and one helluva mark it was, and used his success to get into a more financially attractive business..

Can't say I'd do anything different if I were in his place, really.

[Sephiroth]

curryman said:

danto said:

To add an interesting spin, read this description:

A guy joined WWE and had a fantastic career, won championships, main evented PPVs, and was extremely over with the fans. Even to this day, they still talk about him. Like him or not - he made a huge impression on wrestling. But now he's moved on, wants to try to achieve success in another field. Wreslting was a chapter in his book, and he's moved on to the next one.

How come when this statement is applied to The Rock, people wish him well, but when applied to the Ultimate Warrior, he is seen as a traitor, a scumbag and an ungrateful SOB? I'm no Warrior mark, I just fail to see past the double standards here.

Warrior was over for like...a year. Rock's been over for 10+

The Rock also doesn't strike me as being as monkey-flipping bonkers as the Warrior is. At least I never heard of The Rock mugging Santa Clause and forcing the fat man into bondage. Or telling some college students that "stredueling don't make the world work!"

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

cheeba said:

I want to see John Cena vs. The Rock at WrestleMania XXV

I'd mark the f*** out.

Please let this all be some work by Cena, the WWE and The Rock, to set up Cena vs Rock. Hey, I can hope.

[Richard]

baldobomb said:

wolfmoon103100 said:

I think Cena is more upset that Rock seems to "HIDE" from his Pro Wrestling days. Like he is ashamed of it. "Who's The Rock? I'm Dwayne Johnson.

I believe he calls himself Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson so he doesn't have to pay Vince royalty money. that's more of a financial thing than any implied disrespect of the business.

Nope, Vince signed over the rights to Dwayne Johnson. Dwayne doesn't use it anymore since a) its too action oriented for the roles he has had and b) to distance himself form wrestling after the Benoit mess.


That said, I agree with Cena (mostly). Rock doesn't care about this business or its fans anymore as they aren't those who he makes his money off of now. When he needs the help of wrestling fans to he does the interviews and panders to us but, that is it. The man has no love for this business and all but said it in his book. He was more interested in football and failed, needed something to do and started wrestling. When he became a moderate success acting, he left wrestling behind and no wants little or nothing to do with it.

Do I think that is a bad think, no. However, I don't like his attitude toward the business (and people that made him imo).

[Ragnal]

mothersky said:

We'd all love for Rock to come back. But Rock was smart, he made his money, left his mark, and one helluva mark it was, and used his success to get into a more financially attractive business..

Can't say I'd do anything different if I were in his place, really.

I agree with this. As much as I like Triple H as a wrestler, at least Rocky knew when to step away from the ring and let other people shine. With Trips dominating or squashing the midcard roster when he pleases, or the occasional Hogan/random legend appearance, you can't get that.

So yes, for at least five years of his WWE career, the Rock had his time to shine, and he stepped away for bigger and better things.

[rra]

screethemudokon said:

wolfmoon103100 said:

I think Cena is more upset that Rock seems to "HIDE" from his Pro Wrestling days. Like he is ashamed of it. "Who's The Rock? I'm Dwayne Johnson.

From what I can tell that seems to be more of the case. It's not that he left, but that he's really distancing himself for the company that made him and got him where he is now (by pushing him I mean, Rock had the talent just needed the exposure). While I don't know how much of this is true being I haven't seen a lot of Rock's recent appearances, so I don't know if I agree with him or not on that assessment.

What garbage.

He wants to make his movie stardom be known beyond the phrase "The Rock."

Whatever it'll work or not, who knows.

[Red Impact]

Really, I don't fault anyone for leaving the business to try something new. That's their business.

A performer stops owing anything to the company once their contract is up. That's life. If they get out of their contract, they no longer owe from that point. That's true for Rock, Ultimate Warrior, Goldberg, Brock Lesnar, whoever. The fans aren't entitled to anything more than what a guy is being paid to do, the sooner people realize that, the better for them.

I also never got the logic of "not doing live appearances = thumbing your nose at the business." It's not like he's never done anything since, he's done taped appearances, and hasn't exactly been slamming the business afterwards like others. People act like he's been punching fans in the face whenever they call him "The Rock" when all he's been guilty of doing is having a busy schedule. We only get one half of the story, because he doesn't really talk about it, so you only hear from the wrestling sites how he doesn't appear, etc.

For changing the name he's being billed as, if it was anything else, like a football nickname, no one would care. Actors do it all the time. Odds are, his agent(s) told him he would be too typecast if he went by "The Rock," so he changed it. I don't get why that's a crime for everyone.

Machismo: Jericho tried at both music and acting on his time off...

[Desi]

I can understand where both sides are coming from.

Rock was/is well within his rights to do what he did to further his career, so more power to him. However, after listening for years how Rock went on about loving the business and now Rock barely even wants to speak about wrestling does leave a bad tastes in people's mouth, so I understand how Cena feels in this case.

[Joekishi]

Eh I don't get it, but it could be planting the seed for a future Rock/Cena fued.

God I hope hollywood rock comes back and owns Cena on the mic.

Cena has to do a copy of The Rock's promo on Austin though

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basicboogeynomix said:

Eh I don't get it, but it could be planting the seed for a future Rock/Cena fued.

God I hope hollywood rock comes back and owns Cena on the mic.

Cena has to do a copy of The Rock's promo on Austin though

Rock would be the de facto face, so it'd have to be People's Champ Rock.

[Celgress]

IMHO Cena is just jealous. He knows he'll never be on the level of a Rock, Hogan or Austin.

[Robbymac]

jediel said:

cheeba said:

I want to see John Cena vs. The Rock at WrestleMania XXV

I'd mark the smurf out.

Please let this all be some work by Cena, the WWE and The Rock, to set up Cena vs Rock. Hey, I can hope.

We may have a winner here folks. How many times have these "real life spats" turned into a huge money match.

I'll tell you one thing, if they can get Rock in for one 6 week run (hyped up that way, where its clear that this is a "one night only" return) leading up to next years Wrestlemania and a main event match with Cena, it might cost them 5 million or so, but the amount they'll make back in ticket sales and PPV buys would be outrageous.

[Ragnal]

robbymac said:

jediel said:

I'd mark the smurf out.

Please let this all be some work by Cena, the WWE and The Rock, to set up Cena vs Rock. Hey, I can hope.

We may have a winner here folks. How many times have these "real life spats" turned into a huge money match.

I'll tell you one thing, if they can get Rock in for one 6 week run (hyped up that way, where its clear that this is a "one night only" return) leading up to next years Wrestlemania and a main event match with Cena, it might cost them 5 million or so, but the amount they'll make back in ticket sales and PPV buys would be outrageous.

It'd prolly replace Rock/Hogan on the top 10 Wrestlemania moments deemed by WWE.

Having said that, there's a chance the match'll be just as bad.

[Dave the Dave]

I don't think the Rock owes it to us to come back...

But he seems embarrassed of his wrestling past. May not be true, but it seems that way to me.