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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 26, 2008 17:57:06 GMT -5
Wrestling fans can be sick and selfish sometimes. In a sport that has seen guys crippled and killed and live painful lives, here is a man, Dwayne Johnson, who found a career outside of wrestling, that allows him to live a healthy, and enjoyable life. And he left wrestling the right way, putting over talent. He didn't come in and just beat people, he put people over on the way out. And wrestling fans act like this man has to be part of wrestling for the rest of his life. Even making ocasional appearance. Let the man live his life.
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Post by Loki on Feb 26, 2008 17:57:54 GMT -5
I see where Cena's coming from, and I agree with him.
Nobody's gonna deny Rock's contribution to the industry [albeit I still don't understand how he managed to become so popular, and I'll never get the appeal of him].
Nobody's gonna blame Rocky for going Hollywood where he can make MORE money with much LESS physical stress.
Nobody's gonna ask Rocky (or anybody else) to keep on wrestling as long as they're old and crippled.
But for a guy who has wrestling in his genes and who has run his mouth so much about loving the business, the lack of "respect" for his roots is annoying. And I guess it gets unbearable for one of the boys, like Cena.
If it wasn't for wrestling, Mr. Dwayne Johnson would have to stand in queue for hours just to get an audition for a walk-on role... Thanks to wrestling, The Rock is a recognized name [in the B/C celebrity list].
P.S. putting guys over after having been on-and-off the roster for a couple of years means squat... "Rock lost to X... big deal, Rocky will shoot a movie and will be back, maybe, in N months"
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Post by FurryMan on Feb 26, 2008 17:59:21 GMT -5
Meh, Cena gave his oppinion, and I agree with him, it's not so much that the 'Rock should come back for eva!' as maybe give one or two suprises at major PPVs; if only to show the fans that he still gives a damn about them. The people saying that he was behind a major boom period are playing with a double edged sword, he may not owe the WWE an apperance,and naturaly people wanna see him so by not showing up for anything other then the HOF thing he's just hurting his long term fans.
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Post by Gillberg: 0-175 on Feb 26, 2008 18:00:53 GMT -5
Awww, did Cena call The Rock a poopyhead?
Honestly, Rocky, good move. Wrestling is not where it's at. You don't want to be someone with a legacy like the Undertaker but have it constintly pissed away by shitting writting and being associated with something that is on the same level as Larry The Cable Guy in society.
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Post by rj on Feb 26, 2008 18:02:34 GMT -5
A bit out of the ordinary from Cena. Who else has he talked bad about publicly?
This sounds like something where you overhear another's opinion and then you echo. Just my $0.02.
Rock's not in the wrong. It's his life, if he wants to leave, he can. And leaving doesn't mean he doesn't like wrestling.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Feb 26, 2008 18:05:05 GMT -5
lildude, Mick Foley is the perfect model of fidelity to "the business" as you describe it, and what does it get him? Significant health problems? Conway Pops on his millionth "surprise" return? What's it gotten him? Well, undying respect for one. Something The Rock has none of, as far as this person's concerned. Some guys are wrestlers, some guys are entertainers. Just like some fans like wrestling, and some fans--for some reason--don't. (Go figure.) Foley's a wrestler, that's why he's still around. The Rock never was, never will be. Yet another reason I never respected or found him intersting. It's kind of the "Scary Movie" phenomenon. I'll fight to the death my opinion that "Scary Movie" (and it's subsequent travesties) are not really movies at all in the metaphysical sense. Sure, a lot of people like Scary Movie for what it is, but not because it's a movie (again, think in the figurative sense). Same with The Rock. He did very little--actually, nothing--for wrestling and everything for entertainment.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 26, 2008 18:05:29 GMT -5
Besides, for you people who want him to come back, what do you want him to do? Put somebody over? As soon as he does that Triple H buries them to try and take their heat? Hurricane? Jericho? Eugene? All guys Rock built up and HHH soon buried. Lesnar was even put over and there was talk that HHH was going to beat him for the title until he decided to leave for the Vikings.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Feb 26, 2008 18:05:39 GMT -5
On the one hand, it would be annoying for someone that claimed to love the business like The Rock to never come back.
But from his point of view, he has to distance himself from it. It's not like he is a massive liar, who is going round saying he loves the business and then spitting in Vince's face when they have meetings. I'm sure he does love it, I'm sure if he could be a huge movie star and wrestle semi-regularly at the same time then he wouldn't turn it down. Fact is though, he loves the business but has to do it, because if he doesn't distance himself he won't get the big roles he wants, and he won't get the more money/less stress career that anyone if given the choice would choose.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Feb 26, 2008 18:09:04 GMT -5
Rock can love 'sports entertainment' as Cena put it as much as anyone without having to get in the ring and wrestle.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Feb 26, 2008 18:12:08 GMT -5
Cena is a hater. I dig the guy a wee bit less now. I'm done here.
EDIT- I lied, I have more. When was the last time The Rock publically professed his love for pro wrestling? Last I saw he tries to not talk about it. That's his choice and that's fine. Point is, he doesn't have love for the business and that's fine. That's his bag. He doesn't say "I LOVE pro wrestling still and I'm coming back someday" so I see no problem.
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Post by Desi on Feb 26, 2008 18:13:32 GMT -5
I see where Cena's coming from, and I agree with him. Nobody's gonna deny Rock's contribution to the industry [albeit I still don't understand how he managed to become so popular, and I'll never get the appeal of him]. Nobody's gonna blame Rocky for going Hollywood where he can make MORE money with much LESS physical stress. Nobody's gonna ask Rocky (or anybody else) to keep on wrestling as long as they're old and crippled. But for a guy who has wrestling in his genes and who has run his mouth so much about loving the business, the lack of "respect" for his roots is annoying. And I guess it gets unbearable for one of the boys, like Cena. If it wasn't for wrestling, Mr. Dwayne Johnson would have to stand in queue for hours just to get an audition for a walk-on role... Thanks to wrestling, The Rock is a recognized name [in the B/C celebrity list]. P.S. putting guys over after having been on-and-off the roster for a couple of years means squat... "Rock lost to X... big deal, Rocky will shoot a movie and will be back, maybe, in N months" I agree. I'd rather not have Rock back at all if he didn't want to be here. While Cena has his critics and haters, at least Cena WANTS to be in the wrestling business, which now Rock seems to showing his true colors by being embarrassed to even mention he had a wrestling career.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Feb 26, 2008 18:13:53 GMT -5
Well god forbid someone decides to leave wrestling. what is this the freaking mafia?
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Post by Desi on Feb 26, 2008 18:15:30 GMT -5
Well god forbid someone decides to leave wrestling. what is this the freaking mafia? I don't think it's an issue of Rock leaving, if this thread says anything, most people are proud that Rock was able to go in one piece. It's a matter of his refusal nowadays to acknowledge his wrestling career that's bothering Cena, IMO.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Feb 26, 2008 18:16:10 GMT -5
Rock ain't embarrassed but it was a long time ago and it has nothing to do with his acting career, big shock he doesn't want it brought up all the time.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 26, 2008 18:17:03 GMT -5
I see where Cena's coming from, and I agree with him. Nobody's gonna deny Rock's contribution to the industry [albeit I still don't understand how he managed to become so popular, and I'll never get the appeal of him]. Nobody's gonna blame Rocky for going Hollywood where he can make MORE money with much LESS physical stress. Nobody's gonna ask Rocky (or anybody else) to keep on wrestling as long as they're old and crippled. But for a guy who has wrestling in his genes and who has run his mouth so much about loving the business, the lack of "respect" for his roots is annoying. And I guess it gets unbearable for one of the boys, like Cena. If it wasn't for wrestling, Mr. Dwayne Johnson would have to stand in queue for hours just to get an audition for a walk-on role... Thanks to wrestling, The Rock is a recognized name [in the B/C celebrity list]. P.S. putting guys over after having been on-and-off the roster for a couple of years means squat... "Rock lost to X... big deal, Rocky will shoot a movie and will be back, maybe, in N months" As for getting his appeal, not everyone will as not everyone will like the same things, but the main thing is he got ove.r. Actually when Rock was part of the active roster in 98-99, he lost quite a bit to the likes of Trips, Mr.Ass, Bossman, Al Snow, Mankind, etc. Again, where does it say that the Rock absolutely has to come back to WWE or namedrop it every three seconds in an interview? It's his own business on how he wants to go through with his life, he doesn't owe anyone anything as he did everything he was asked when under contract and WWE let it expire.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Feb 26, 2008 18:17:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't acknowledge my wrestling past either. Lets face it, wrestling is looked down upon by America. Especially with 2007's BS, why bring it up?
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Post by Corporate H on Feb 26, 2008 18:19:57 GMT -5
I think Cena has a point. The Rock did a lot in the five or so years he was active, but he was only around for those five or so years which a lot of people tend to forget. If wrestling really was his true passion he'd still be doing it or just for a little bit longer. But, I can't blame the guy for getting out when he could.
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Post by Desi on Feb 26, 2008 18:20:18 GMT -5
I wouldn't acknowledge my wrestling past either. Lets face it, wrestling is looked down upon by America. Especially with 2007's BS, why bring it up? If anything, I wish Rock would do that. I'd rather him not mention wrestling at all then for him to come back every once in a while (I.E.: His taped promo before WM 23), because threads like this will keep popping up over and over again. Then again, I was never a Rock fan in the first place so I'm a little biased.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 26, 2008 18:23:26 GMT -5
Well god forbid someone decides to leave wrestling. what is this the freaking mafia? I don't think it's an issue of Rock leaving, if this thread says anything, most people are proud that Rock was able to go in one piece. It's a matter of his refusal nowadays to acknowledge his wrestling career that's bothering Cena, IMO. He doesn't need to acknowledge his wrestling career, though. Everyone can see it on DVDs, YouTube, DailyMotion, WWE.com, the works. He's done everything he's wanted to do in Pro Wrestling and now he's been given the oppertunity to do something different and wants to focus on that. It's not 'ignoring the industry' it's focusing on another project. It's like with anyone who did SNL. Take Will Ferrell for instance. He's cemented himself on his own as a successful comedic actor. But without SNL, he probably wouldn't have got there. When you interview him, you don't speak to him about SNL, you speak to him about Semi Pro. Because that's where he is right now and has rised above SNL. Not saying he isn't greatful for it, it's just he's focusing on other things right now.
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Post by Max on Feb 26, 2008 18:23:34 GMT -5
I agree with Cena for once. WOAHOAHOAHOAHOAH
crazy.
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